I am sorry to hear that the current Clans Battle functionality does not satisfy you, virg. This feedback has been forwarded further🙏

Stay tuned!

Virg: It is not just CVC ...  KVK, Fury, and all troop killing competitions are all won and lost by those that conduct the most successful sieges.

I agree with Virg - I lead a clan of about a dozen players but we can't win CVC these days because of the CVC scoring set up. We keep getting paired up with single player clans - one 3 trillion influence player against a group where noone is above 1 trillion.  We basically give up before we start because there is no way we can match our enemy's siege points.   They just have to show up for 2 hours during the competition and there's nothing we can do about it.

Please change the CVC scoring so we at least have a fighting chance.  It's very boring otherwise.

I agree, these 1 man clans are killing the game for the smaller clans, there is noway our 3 or 4 players can beat someone bigger than all of us combined in cvc ..... usually they do nothing for 2 & 3/4 days then wander in & wave the CC a couple of times to beat us

The new postings here helped me find the post I wanted to respond to.

You are right, all newer players are disadvantaged by the system, because any change they make,generally makes things more difficult to accomplish than previously, and because  established players are more than likely  to have finished goals,when things were simpler, cheaper and easier.

The present game is flooded with examples including the CvC set up, Helheim,Achievements, and more ,but this is not a new phenomena, shortly after I started playing I discovered they had banished two invaders Barbarian and Centurion  from the global map, and the only way to get their material was to buy it from the clan store.

All of this makes the competitions  more ridiculous than they already were, because new players are forced to compete against generally speaking, more established opponents, and with little  to no chance  of either winning, nor picking up any of  the now more meagre rewards where the levels are set even higher.  

Thank you for your feedback, Jarls! I have forwarded it to our specialists. 

By the way, xyz, we didn't banish any Invader from the Global Map. If you face such an issue again, please forward your request to the Support Team. They will check your Kingdom and will bring the Invaders back 😎 

No invaders are banned in the game, however, due to the choice of the King of Jotunheim, invaders are sometimes repeated, here you are right. And all Invaders allowed to be chosen, there is no any restrictions :)

I didn't say banned, I said banished, and I didn't say are, I said were.

They were subsqeuently restored to the rotation, and as you say sometimes they stay longer because they are chosen by the King of Jotunheim.

Before that they only got 1 day when the others appeared for longer periods.

Thank you for your openness, abcduh. I have forwarded your feedback to the developers regarding the game functionality 😇

Unless a player is a big time spending money bag the developers care not in the least what lower tier players say or think. This is a pay to win game that takes no skill nor strategy to play. How deep is your wallet << that what matters and the only thing that matters.

I think our latest oponent has taken the mismatch to a whole new level. We face a two person clan of similar influence to our combined clan - so they have t8s and lv5 sh and we dont have any t8s and a lv 4 sh. But they have an alliance with another (new) clan (which has played only 2 cvcs),  This new clan has two of their 3 players at  lv 40  and nearly 3 times our combined influence. I suspect not long ago they were all one clan to get our oponent sh to level 5. Anyway -surprise surprise - our oponents have won every cvc to date.

 Seems a good strategy: get your sh to level 5 and then split the bigs off into a support clan and your oponents will be relatively weak from then on.

 Also of interest - the alliance clan is listed as having  lv1 sh but soon after cvc started had a lv4 sh.

24 hours later, having sealed a win with a fantastic lead, one of the level 40s has returned to our oponent clan.

The mismatch is probably our own fault for winning too many checkpoints last time. The art for us now is to win the next cvc with minimum checkpoints.

Played a single player clan last week. We were winning 3-0 as they'd done nothing (on the bottom 3) checked 2 hours later and in those 2 hours they'd scored between 8 and 10 times more than us on all categories despite the fact we'd been going for 24 hours on and off.

I don't understand how and it just makes the whole game feel pointless as cvc is the only decent event for smaller players.

Blackadder - previously we had a similar situation - we had a good lead on invaders/farming  and our single oponent in the last few hours put on a big lead on us in troops and knowledge. As a high level player he can make high level troops + knowledge - his only limit is how much he wants to spend buying time bonuses and rss, assuming he hasn't already got enough  reserves in hand.

John: we wont be able to do any experimenting - our bigger players (chief and elders) have gone dormant over the last few weeks and we cant even wake them up to appoint a new chief, so I don't begrudge our previous oponent actively moving their bigs back and forth to max advantage. The two lv 37s did get a very impressive tally from their siege (despite the lv 40 alliance members not earning points for them). I am assuming the presence of troops from the lv 40 troops players massively  increases the power of the troops from the two lv  37 players. (I.e. the more that the jotun troops are outnumbered the greater the point earning capacity  of the level 37 players?) And naturally our oponents moved in closer to our sh during the final hours just in case we tried a siege, which I am guessing is why a lv 40 rejoined our oponent clan.

before there were jotun scouts it was relatively safe for me to scout other sieges and see what big players were doing as few people bothered to put in scouts and learn what worked. Now it is rather more problematic - esp since I dont know which jotun marches have scouts.

Assuming there is someone available and willing to eject inactive players from the clan. it may still not be enough to get an easier opponent, and my guess that might only happen if enough influence  change occurs to drop  a league, and that might not be beneficial either, it would have to depend on the rewards given in each of the leagues, and how many levels can be completed.

Final consideration, without a chief scoring there are no main rewards for a C.v.C  win anyway.

CVC anouncement a day later, the only thing that changed is it took an extra day to find out we once again found ourselves facing a 1 man Russian outfit who is individually stronger than our entire clan is collectively.

as others have pointed out Plaruim doesn't give a toss about the small clans/players it's all about those who pay to play

XVZ: sorry for the late response. Yes I did remove that post which was just to say there are rewards in cvc worth competing for. It is about the only competition that the clans in our kingdom take seriously. We certainly dont bother with kvks, Fury, Holmgang etc.

I should add for Susan that what Ivar says seems to work for us - we have a reasonable chance of winning every 2nd cvc - which seems emminently fair to all. We won our last cvc - it was a battle. This coming one we face a lv 40 player and if they raise their sh to level 4 (currently level 3) we will have no chance of winning.

John in response to the above I think a very sensible idea already exists on other posts/threads, and that is to separate out those clans who can seige and those who can't.

If both clans can seige then the triple points will measure the best seige and/or the most successful attack on the opposing seige.

For those clans who can't seige if opposing each other the triple point effect will be eliminated.

I accept with this there will be occasions where 1 clan builds a tower and holds a seige, but this would be a one time gain.

Everybody says that they are looking for the new kingdom. The problem is not in finding, but in recognizing it. In fact this is the problem with most people, they don’t recognize the new kingdom because they are not looking for it. They have their own minds and they have their own hearts and they have their own ideas.

pipkin, im sure plarium is very happy with 'your' comment, but seeing as how you joined 3 yrs b4 i did, im sure you are much farther ahead of me & mine, since things have changed ALOT. also this was not meant to solicit another reply from you, thank you.