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Apr 1, 2022, 16:2904/01/22
03/15/19
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SO I LOST, MY STRONHOLD IS ONLY LEVEL 3, i cant do battle in my stronhold


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Apr 1, 2022, 16:3704/01/22
03/15/19
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Or do i mis something ?? 

His stronghold was level 4

Apr 1, 2022, 23:5904/01/22
Apr 2, 2022, 00:17(edited)
06/21/17
1303

At the risk of upsetting some by sticking my nose in where it is not appreciated.

First I am sure that John knows much more than I do about siege of the stronghold and tactics to use in competitions so I wouldn't try to out do him on that. 

Though I would add to  your findings, and his suggestions that you probably had an unfavourable draw, and that you were not that far ahead in the categories that you were leading in, such that if you had managed to score in the category where no points were gained that your opposition couldn't have still won the match  4:3 or better, than the win on points they got from  the 3:3 draw.


All this aside,I would suggest you think carefully about upgrading the stronghold to level 4, perhaps read the posts about players regretting advancing their game progresss in general, or upgrading the stronghold.

First thing I noticed was that you wrote ''I lost'' and ''My  stronghold'' which made me wonder if that's what you meant,and you are a one man clan,if this is the true my suggestion about  not upgrading could be more significant.

A one person clan, or even a clan with few members ,could find it more difficult to win on seige battles against a clan with more members with access to larger armies.

Also currently, not just your opponent, but any clan can attack a  stronghold siege ,which is something small clans have complained about.

Whether it is just  you in the clan, or many, when the draw is made you have to consider what are your chances of winning, there's not a lot of reasons for spending a lot of effort if it looks like you are outnumbered from the outset.

Maybe you do this already, maybe you win most of your matches, and this is the first time you lost a drawn match to a clan with a stronghold siege. If you upgrade to level 4 you could find  that  more  of your opponents have siege capability, and your wins decrease in number.

Final point can you obtain enough legendary gems for the precious dust that you need?

Except I forgot to add read this Plarium post.

''Tips for activating Siege status in the Stronghold'' 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/vikings-war-of-clans/666_game-database/200927_tips-for-activating-siege-status-in-the-stronghold/

Here is something  else I just looked at that John wrote  peviously on the subject of siege  and accumulating gems for  precious dust.

https://plarium.com/forum/en/vikings-war-of-clans/582_general-questions/205577_help----2/



Apr 2, 2022, 00:4504/02/22
03/15/19
10

Ty both for the reaction, he went strait for the stronghold siege, because he knew i could not do it.

And i was offline when he did it. So not fair, the game should give me one with level 3 Stronghold same as i have, but yes will keep an eye open next time if again a level 4 i will not play. That way plarium will lose the money i usual spend. Again ty both for the reaction.

Apr 3, 2022, 07:5904/03/22
220588
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Ty both for the reaction, he went strait for the stronghold siege, because he knew i could not do it.

And i was offline when he did it. So not fair, the game should give me one with level 3 Stronghold same as i have, but yes will keep an eye open next time if again a level 4 i will not play. That way plarium will lose the money i usual spend. Again ty both for the reaction.

Hi VJAL! In the Clans Battle all Clans within their Leagues are divided into pairs according to their Influence and activity in the previous Competitions: https://vikingsweb-support.plarium.com/web/en/guide/clans-battle/clans-battle-competition-features

Stronghold level is not counted👍

Anyway, I have forwarded your feedback further. Thank you for being with us😇

Apr 3, 2022, 15:0304/03/22
220588

I got your point, John, and have forwarded this feedback to the developers🙂

If you have any other questions or suggestions regarding the matchmaking functionality, feel free to share them with me🙌

Apr 10, 2022, 09:1804/10/22
Apr 10, 2022, 09:28(edited)
09/15/15
219

I like John's first reply but if the sh siege occurred early in the game then I would imagine the oponent would have worked hard to win one other category  (like troop training) just before the end  to secure the win on points? (So that as John suggested, you were outmatched anyway).

Apr 10, 2022, 09:2404/10/22
09/15/15
219

(Our clan does have lv4  SH but not enough troops to defend it successfully, and I have the impression that Plarium alternates us with clans that does not have a level 4 SH so that we can win every 2nd or 3rd cvc even with a failed defence of our SH. )

Apr 10, 2022, 14:0504/10/22
Apr 10, 2022, 14:09(edited)
06/21/17
1303
pipkin

I like John's first reply but if the sh siege occurred early in the game then I would imagine the oponent would have worked hard to win one other category  (like troop training) just before the end  to secure the win on points? (So that as John suggested, you were outmatched anyway).

Difficult but  not impossile to do.

Hampered here by being one against many.

Also problematic if the CvC ends during sleep.

The whole problem is not new.

I appreciate it may be difficult ,wieldy,or  perhaps even impossible to achieve otherwise, but competitions, and levels in them should not just be based on influence alone.

Numbers in clan should count, as well as actual playing parameters of individual players.

I.e.

Events and levels  and opponents should be geared to what can,is, actually normally done,not what is considered should be done, or is done by players/clans near the top in their leaagues who find targets and winning relatively easy.

Apr 11, 2022, 00:3904/11/22
04/29/18
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My main gripe on CvC is the fact we are time after time being matched against 1 man clans, usually Russian, & formed within a week or so of the event. We are a small outfit of low spenders & can't compete vs 1 guy who outspends & outguns us. I'm sure these 1 man outfits just form for CvC and return to their main clan after the event.


Apr 11, 2022, 01:1504/11/22
12/10/17
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Macca

My main gripe on CvC is the fact we are time after time being matched against 1 man clans, usually Russian, & formed within a week or so of the event. We are a small outfit of low spenders & can't compete vs 1 guy who outspends & outguns us. I'm sure these 1 man outfits just form for CvC and return to their main clan after the event.


Same thing regularly happens to us, small clan getting paired against a 1 man coiner team who has higher infl than all of us combined. we can't compete in a fight & they use $ to beat us in other fields.

No wonder people are quitting the game in their droves.

Apr 11, 2022, 14:5604/11/22
06/21/17
1303


It doesn't take much to figure out what is going on and why?

It's either done deliberately,or its a natural occurrence of continued unintended consequences of ill thought out updates. 

Apr 20, 2022, 04:3504/20/22
08/11/17
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Ivar. The link you provided comes up "page not found"

Apr 21, 2022, 09:3804/21/22
03/15/19
10

Still nothing did change for me in the clan v clan battle, my enemy clan did get support from the strongest clan there. And i did get a bad repute, needless to say i lost again. they also did attack me thogeter with my enemy clan. I to spend 75/100 € to try to win the game every CVC. 

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Again i need to rethink on how im going to play this game and spend less money, is that what plarium wants ? 

Apr 21, 2022, 09:5904/21/22
03/15/19
10
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Hi VJAL! In the Clans Battle all Clans within their Leagues are divided into pairs according to their Influence and activity in the previous Competitions: https://vikingsweb-support.plarium.com/web/en/guide/clans-battle/clans-battle-competition-features

Stronghold level is not counted👍

Anyway, I have forwarded your feedback further. Thank you for being with us😇

If i get matched with to a level 4/5 enemy stronghold i know i lose the game anyway, they only need to spend some dust and fight in the battle of stronghold AND BAM THEY WIN 3 levels, while i need to work on getting warriors, upgrading clan, attacking invaders and ghosts. If they start battle in stronghold i need to be home and awake. This time i was awake but with help from that other clan i lost again tyvm.

Apr 21, 2022, 16:2804/21/22
03/15/19
10

you cant play Vikings War of Clans if you dont spend money, how else you will kill invaders and ghosts, get more warriors, and upgrade your Stronghold, you cant buy victory you also need to work for it.

Apr 22, 2022, 08:0604/22/22
220588
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If i get matched with to a level 4/5 enemy stronghold i know i lose the game anyway, they only need to spend some dust and fight in the battle of stronghold AND BAM THEY WIN 3 levels, while i need to work on getting warriors, upgrading clan, attacking invaders and ghosts. If they start battle in stronghold i need to be home and awake. This time i was awake but with help from that other clan i lost again tyvm.

I got your point, VJAL, and have forwarded it to the developers👍

Feel free to share all ideas and suggestions with me😇

Apr 22, 2022, 10:0404/22/22
03/15/19
10

You mean living like a parasite inside a clan depending on others to make you bigger, begging for materials etc. Nope that's not my kind of style of playing.

Apr 22, 2022, 13:5804/22/22
06/21/17
1303

Have  been considering responding since you wrote about your 2nd CvC loss, and how much you are spending.

However there has been now more imput and more to cover.

First, I was surprised about you telling us your expenditure,it provoked a range of thoughts and on how best to respond.

You are allowed to play  the game as you wish, and spend likewise,  I'm sure the owners will be grateful that you do what they like.

The actual amount is neither here or there,it will be much to many, and little to others, who have spent or continue to spend much in order to maintain their goals.

One of the things I wondered is, if you would be better of using whatever you spend on bank offers to  just upgrade rather than trying to win events, but that is impossible for me to tell.

Your  situation reflects what you are doing and the current dynamics of the game. 

 I have wondered what it would be to start playing a new account now, as any advice given  might be  outdated.

Much of the game is currently off limits till you have 1 billion poiints and even at this level, the game expects you to do so much,whereas when I started playing this was not the case.

Many events were open, and winnable, levels simpler,  CvC entrance started at 5 million, there were no sieges to worry about.

We do not know how much you have spent to get were you are, or your present progress, but I wonder how long you have been playing,given your forum account is new.

It strikes me that, you are trying to run before you can walk,by partaking in features that were introduced to continue interest for those that had been playing a long time,and had already made considerable progress,and also to a play a game alone, one designed for group cooperation, so the game might not be right for you.

It can be played solo succesfully,those that are doing so now probably have time served, been in clans which they are still engaging with, so it's maybe not optimal for you to try right now.

If you are not doing well right now,you could just not play CvC,or destroy the stronghold, but you probaably know how that works from before you built it.





Apr 22, 2022, 16:0404/22/22
03/15/19
10
xyz

Have  been considering responding since you wrote about your 2nd CvC loss, and how much you are spending.

However there has been now more imput and more to cover.

First, I was surprised about you telling us your expenditure,it provoked a range of thoughts and on how best to respond.

You are allowed to play  the game as you wish, and spend likewise,  I'm sure the owners will be grateful that you do what they like.

The actual amount is neither here or there,it will be much to many, and little to others, who have spent or continue to spend much in order to maintain their goals.

One of the things I wondered is, if you would be better of using whatever you spend on bank offers to  just upgrade rather than trying to win events, but that is impossible for me to tell.

Your  situation reflects what you are doing and the current dynamics of the game. 

 I have wondered what it would be to start playing a new account now, as any advice given  might be  outdated.

Much of the game is currently off limits till you have 1 billion poiints and even at this level, the game expects you to do so much,whereas when I started playing this was not the case.

Many events were open, and winnable, levels simpler,  CvC entrance started at 5 million, there were no sieges to worry about.

We do not know how much you have spent to get were you are, or your present progress, but I wonder how long you have been playing,given your forum account is new.

It strikes me that, you are trying to run before you can walk,by partaking in features that were introduced to continue interest for those that had been playing a long time,and had already made considerable progress,and also to a play a game alone, one designed for group cooperation, so the game might not be right for you.

It can be played solo succesfully,those that are doing so now probably have time served, been in clans which they are still engaging with, so it's maybe not optimal for you to try right now.

If you are not doing well right now,you could just not play CvC,or destroy the stronghold, but you probaably know how that works from before you built it.





Thank you for the reply, but being new in the forum doesnt mean im new in the game.

I lost already 4 CVC battles in a row not just 2, my point is that i will keep loosing if they keep

placeing me against level 4/5 level strongholds im only level 3 stronghold.

 100 Dust and bam they hold 3 bar levels in the CVC battle, thats not fair, thats my point.

Resurrecting and healing will give them another bar, depending on how much warriors i make.

Is that so hard to understand what i try to say ??