Given the following information.
Palace 20, and all available invader research finished, except opening up level 5.
Going to palace 21(to open up the rest of the research to level 10) and opening up invaders level 5, will take about the same time.
In the meantime,which level of of invader should I be attacking ?
There doesn't appear to be any up to date information on the internet about this,with the forum, the Information often seems to be second hand,or too vague.
Here is part of a post dated March 29 2018, in response to a post called" invader tips" which at first glance seems quite helpful, but I would say its not detailed enough.
"until you are going to seriously farm materials and did not learn all the necessary knowledge, you need to farm the invaders to 2 levels lower than those opened."
Which would suggest target L.2?
Though gems,and materials and most other items that invaders drop are useful, invader materials are what we are more concerned with, we want to acquire them quickly and as cheaply as possible,so it would be useful if there was a guide which suggested what to do and when, especially at the times when the game gives you alternative routes to choose from.
For what they are worth, results from a small test.
Attacks today on L.1 I obtained an average equivalent of 3 Invader materials per invader. This may be atypical.
I also obtained 3 Invader materials from one attack on a L.2 but at an apparent much higher cost.
Which is one of the reasons I have been avoiding targeting L.2 or higher.
On a L.3 invader, I obtained the equivalent of 37 invader materials at what would seem a similar cost to level one.
I have avoided L.3 because they are supposed to be bad targets.
In order to eliminate the chance element it would be necessary to have more test results.
Thanks to the curious for looking, and those that posted for trying to help.
I was already aware of some of the perceived wisdom surrounding when, and when not, to attack Ubers, or level 5 and 6.
The question was not about any particular invader,but which level of invaders to attack when you can only attack 1, 2, 3, 4.
To get to troop health/attack on the invader knowledge tree takes a lot of resources,time, boosts or gold, which you have to mass or buy.
I think those, like me, that are not so wealthy, would like to know what to do meanwhile.
Contrary to what appears to be the suggestion elsewhere, of not doing any attacking till you can go for the big guns,Its silly not to use the energy that the game gives you for nothing ,with the possibility of an added top up, if its warranted on economic grounds.
If you want to go anywhere with your game, max out your invader-knowledge, until you hit troop health/attack. And then kill uber invadersYou are quite right about the uber invaders however sometimes level 5s and 6s can be a better option if you looking for only a few pieces of invader material to make some armour, Ubers carry material from 4 different standard invaders so the chances are reduced of getting the last few invader material that you need to make the armour you want, Also most special armour and shaman armour and some invader armour requires standard material as well as invader materials , Sometimes I have all the invaders material needed to make my new new armour but I'm short of one piece of legendary standard material which you can only get from level 5 and 6 invaders. When I attack level 5 and 6 invaders I get a lot of legendary standard material as well as the legendary invader material which comes in very handy as it is a lot harder to get standard legendary material from level 6 tiles and and doing tasks, But on the whole the ubers are the best to hit but the level 5 and 6s are still worth hitting even when your invader knowledge is maxed I even still hit level 4s on the rare occasion and get a lot of rare and epic material/gems from them.
Thanks that's more in keeping with what I wanted to know.
Definitely useful information for the free players / low spenders, but as there's generally enough free energy to kill level 1 invaders, is this a waste, if by adding energy from packs you gain more?
With hindsight the title of the post could have been better, because yes, the higher levels of invaders are the most useful.
I will probably test L.3 and L.4 before and after opening L.5, as finishing the invader tree to L.10 will take considerably more time.
Stumbled across this while looking for table of materials drop.
Best advice I received was to get Royal Guard gear, no matter the level and then improve each piece as you go. Only bit of gear (and probably experience gear) that I would not wait until I had enough to make legend.
RG gear makes big difference.
If you are after a specific type of gear then go for the highest lvl invader that you have enough knowledge and juice to kill.
Remember to set your Hero skills correctly. I use following priorities : Sustained Attack, Energy Depletion, Weaken Invaders, Total Offence and then Energy Restoration.
Good hunting
At this point in time I would recommend sticking with level 1's for the f2p or newer players. With "The Hunt Has Just Begun" achievement and the vast amounts of Gold available through that you can buy Hero energy to hit the higher levels for better/higher quality materials.Sound Advice.
Its just over year since I wrote the question, so interesting that its been taken up again recently and read what players are saying now.
Especially as I would now like to know how to get the best materials from L.5 invaders.
Any offers?
The answer to your questions has always been the same.
Ubers are the best.
Ubers have the best value.
Why? because Ubers give you gems which are exclusive to them only.
You can't get certain gems from any of the other Regular Invaders.
This is what makes Uber Invaders the Superior Invader.
There is only 2 reasons why a person wouldn't attack an Uber Invader.
1st Reason = To Save Time
Laird Brinni commented a year ago with this to explanation.
It has to do with a player searching for a specific material.
Example:
You are trying to craft a piece of gear which requires a Lynx Fur.The Lynx Fur material drops from 2 places ----> Gepid Uber Invader or Lynx Invader
If you attack the Gepid Uber Invader, The chances of you getting a Lynx Fur is 1 out of 20.
If you attack the Lynx Invader, The chances of you getting a Lynx Fur is 1 out of 5.
Thus, A player may decide to attack a Lynx Invader instead of a Gepid Uber Invader "To Save Time".
2nd Reason = Unable to attack Ubers due to Oracle Research
You want to attack Ubers, but the game doesn't let you!
You haven't met the requirements to attack the Ubers.
This is another reason why a person wouldn't be able to attack Uber Invaders.
You will begin to understand how your new question below is sort of pointless.
ANYONE said:
Its just over year since I wrote the question, so interesting that its been taken up again recently and read what players are saying now.
Especially as I would now like to know how to get the best materials from L.5 invaders.
Any offers?
Instead of getting a bunch of Green Material Drops, You will begin to get a bunch of Blue Material Drops.
It doesn't change anything else.
The Best Value still is the Ubers.
The advice I can offer you is the following:
The Khazar Suit is the Best Gear Suit for players who attack invaders with a Hero Level between 35 to 44.
Player J said:
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Ubers have the best value.
Why? because Ubers give you gems which are exclusive to them only.
You can't get certain gems from any of the other Regular Invaders.
This is what makes Uber Invaders the Superior Invader.
There is only 2 reasons why a person wouldn't attack an Uber Invader.
1st Reason = To Save Time
Laird Brinni commented a year ago with this to explanation.
It has to do with a player searching for a specific material.
Example:
You are trying to craft a piece of gear which requires a Lynx Fur.
The Lynx Fur material drops from 2 places ----> Gepid Uber Invader or Lynx Invader
If you attack the Gepid Uber Invader, The chances of you getting a Lynx Fur is 1 out of 20.
If you attack the Lynx Invader, The chances of you getting a Lynx Fur is 1 out of 5.
Thus, A player may decide to attack a Lynx Invader instead of a Gepid Uber Invader "To Save Time".
2nd Reason = Unable to attack Ubers due to Oracle Research
You want to attack Ubers, but the game doesn't let you!
You haven't met the requirements to attack the Ubers.
This is another reason why a person wouldn't be able to attack Uber Invaders.
Once, you understand what I am saying from above.You will begin to understand how your new question below is sort of pointless.
ANYONE said:
Its just over year since I wrote the question, so interesting that its been taken up again recently and read what players are saying now.
Especially as I would now like to know how to get the best materials from L.5 invaders.
Any offers?
Attacking level 5 Invader can improve your over all quality vs. level 4 Invaders.Instead of getting a bunch of Green Material Drops, You will begin to get a bunch of Blue Material Drops.
It doesn't change anything else.
The Best Value still is the Ubers.
The advice I can offer you is the following:
- Figure out whether or not you are a Free 2 Play Player or a Spending Player.
- Figure out what level your hero is.
- Than based on your hero level ---> Create the Khazar Suit or Royal Guard Suit.
The Royal Guard Suit is the Best Gear Suit for players who attack invaders with a Hero Level 45+.
The Khazar Suit is the Best Gear Suit for players who attack invaders with a Hero Level between 35 to 44.
Thank you for the response I am sure that other players reading it may find it useful.
However, though your opening statement of,
'The answer to your questions has always been the same'. 'Ubers are the best.'
may be true, its not really the answer to the question I asked,or intended to ask, as I pointed out later on in the early discussion,I was aware of the merits of attacking Ubers when I wrote the O.P.
So I already knew, and understand what you wrote, and my intended question wasn't pointless,as I wanted to know the most cost efficient from invaders 1-4.
Also I do not think your two reasons given for not attacking Ubers holds up.
A specific piece of gear like Lynx Fur such as describe, is not guaranteed to fall from either the Lynx or Gepid so the element of time saving is doubtful.
The game disallowing you to attack Ubers because of oracle research being inadequate is nonsense.
Apart from access to the necessary energy to attack any class of invader,being a free to play or spender, has little to do with the actual mechanics of the game.
Its certainly true though that with access to vast quantities of energy there is no need to worry about cost efficiency.
ANYONE said:
Thank you for the response I am sure that other players reading it may find it useful.
However, though your opening statement of,
'The answer to your questions has always been the same'. 'Ubers are the best.'
may be true, its not really the answer to the question I asked,or intended to ask, as I pointed out later on in the early discussion,I was aware of the merits of attacking Ubers when I wrote the O.P.
So I already knew, and understand what you wrote, and my intended question wasn't pointless,as I wanted to know the most cost efficient from invaders 1-4.
Also I do not think your two reasons given for not attacking Ubers holds up.
A specific piece of gear like Lynx Fur such as describe, is not guaranteed to fall from either the Lynx or Gepid so the element of time saving is doubtful.
The game disallowing you to attack Ubers because of oracle research being inadequate is nonsense.
Apart from access to the necessary energy to attack any class of invader,being a free to play or spender, has little to do with the actual mechanics of the game.
Its certainly true though that with access to vast quantities of energy there is no need to worry about cost efficiency.
A full set of only Khazar equipment is not the best set for attacking invaders,below hero L.44, and the switch to Royal Guardsman gear, assuming you have access to either or both ,is a whole new topic.
The 2 reasons I gave do hold up!
The Lynx Fur is guaranteed to fall from either the Lynx or Gepid.
This is 100% fact - You can't get Lynx Fur from any other location.
The game has a chart which shows you all the drops given by each invader.
The game has programmed the Lynx Fur to drop from the Lynx Invader or Gepid Uber Invader.
The chance to get a Lynx Fur as a drop material from Lynx is 1 out of 5.
The chance to get a Lynx Fur as a drop material from Gepid Uber invader is 1 out of 20.
When I say the chance to get a Lynx Fur from an Lynx Invader is 1 out of 5.
I don't mean if you attack a Lynx Monster 5 times - You will get 1 Lynx Fur.
That isn't what I am saying.
You have to remember the game has other drops in addition.
Gems - Peace Shields - Gold - etc.
Other items are dropping in addition to the Materials which drop from the Invader.
What I am saying is strictly based on material drops itself!
The Lynx Invader only has 5 materials it can drop at any given time.
-Lynx Fur
-Leather Straps
-Oak Handle
-Raw Hide
-Rough Blade
The material drop pool amount is reduced vs. Gepid Uber invader material drop pool amount.
The Gepid Uber invader has 20 different materials which can drop from it.
You can acquire a specific item faster from the Regular invader vs. Uber invader.
This statement I am making is factual because I have tested it myself.
I never said only Khazar gear.
Players can mix in Hun gear pieces, but in my experience it isn't necessary.
Here is what you have to understand.
The Royal Guardmen Gear is the Best Invader Gear for improving your Damage + Reducing energy cost vs. Invader.
The problem is you can't wear any of the Royal Guardsmen Gear, until your hero is level 45.
How do you plan to reach level 45 with your hero? You have several options I suppose.
- You could spend money on the game to buy Hero Experience Pack from Bank.
- You could spend money on the game to buy Task Refreshes Pack from Bank.
- You could spend gold to buy Hero Experience from Items - Treasure.
- You could spend gold to buy Task Refreshes from Items - Bonuses.
- You could spend energy attacking Invaders to level up your hero.
Free 2 Play Players or Low Spending Players may not have a lot of money to spend on Bank Offers.
If you can't spend on Bank Offers, You can't buy Hero Experience Packs or Task Refresh Packs which give Hero Experience.
Free 2 Play Players or Low Spending Players may not want to use Gold on Hero Experience or Task Refreshes.
They might want to conserve there free gold for more important things like upgrading there buildings + research.
So it leaves you with 1 option - Attacking invaders so your hero levels up to level 45.
What gear will you use?
Are you going to attack an invader with no gear on?
Do you think attacking an invader naked with no gear is good idea?
Obviously, you should wear gear which helps you vs. invaders.
There are only 2 gears types of gear which can help you vs. Invaders below level 44.
1st gear type = Hero Restoration Gear ------> It helps restore energy faster.
2nd gear type = Hero Experience Gear -----> It helps your hero gain more experience to level up faster.
Obviously, I think the gear you should chose is the Hero Experience Gear.
The Khazar Invader drops materials which can help you create Hero Experience Gear.
The Hun Invader drop materials which can help you create Hero Experience Gear.
The Best Hero Experience Gear in the game is the following:
Hun Helmet ----------> Fur Hat
Hun Armor -----------> Stepped Caftan
Khazar Sword -------> Khazar Bow
Khazar Boots -------> Wanderer Boots
Hun Amulet ----------> Golden Bracelets
However, It would be stupid for people to do the above set up.
The set up they should do is the set up I did!
Check out the following set up:
Khazar Helmet -----------------------------------> Plated Helmet
Man Eater or Barbarian Armor ---------------> Bear Coat or Barbarian Armor
Khazar Sword ------------------------------------> Khazar Bow
Khazar Boots ------------------------------------> Wanderer Boots
Khazar Amulet ----------------------------------> Inlaid Belts
The Khazar Amulet give 2% less Hero Experience vs. Hun Amulet, but in exchange it gives you so much extra benefit.
---> You get 18% March Speed to travel to the invaders faster.
---> Your hero can be level 35 to wear Khazar Amulet vs. having to be level 40 to wear Hun Amulet.
---> You will need the Khazar Amulets in the future as materials to craft Bjorn Goblet Amulet (Building Speed Amulet)
Clearly, you can see how the trade off is so worth it!
No reason for you to craft the Golden Bracelet.
Notice again how I recommend the Khazar Helmet vs. Hun Helmet
The Khazar Helmet gives you 10% less Hero Experience vs. Hun Helmet, but in exchange look at the benefits.
---> Easy Access - You will be attacking the Khazar Invader tons of times to get materials.
You will need Khazar materials to make Amulets, Boots, Swords!
You will acquire all the materials needed to make the Khazar Helmet in the process!
---> You will need the Khazar Helmet in the future as materials to craft Hermits Boots (Shaman Learning Speed Boots)
Once again, We arrive to the simple conclusion which I said all along.
Players with a hero level 35 to 44 should craft Khazar Gear.
It is the Best Invader Gear for them to use below level 44.
Players with a hero level 45+ should craft Royal Guard Gear.
It is the Best Invader Gear for them to use above level 45.
The Royal Guard gear gives you the most damage per hit.
The Royal Guard gear gives you reduce energy cost when attacking invaders.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE LEVEL 45.
I was able to max out my Invader Research with a hero level 38.
I was able to attack Uber Invaders with a level 38 hero.
I was able to wear 4 gear pieces at level 38.
- 2x Khazar Amulets
- 1x Khazar Shoes
- 1x Man-Eater Armor
When my hero reached level 40, I was able to wear Khazar Helmet.
My hero was gaining double the experience fighting Uber Invaders using this Hero Experience suit.
It helped me reach level 45 so much faster!
When my hero reached level 45, I began swapping my gear.
I swapped from Hero Experience & Hero Restoration gear to Hero Offense & Hero Endurance gear
Hero Offense & Hero Endurance is what the Royal Guardsmen gear gives.
Player J said:
The 2 reasons I gave do hold up!
The Lynx Fur is guaranteed to fall from either the Lynx or Gepid.
This is 100% fact - You can't get Lynx Fur from any other location.
The game has a chart which shows you all the drops given by each invader.
The game has programmed the Lynx Fur to drop from the Lynx Invader or Gepid Uber Invader.
The chance to get a Lynx Fur as a drop material from Lynx is 1 out of 5.
The chance to get a Lynx Fur as a drop material from Gepid Uber invader is 1 out of 20.
When I say the chance to get a Lynx Fur from an Lynx Invader is 1 out of 5.
I don't mean if you attack a Lynx Monster 5 times - You will get 1 Lynx Fur.
That isn't what I am saying.
You have to remember the game has other drops in addition.
Gems - Peace Shields - Gold - etc.
Other items are dropping in addition to the Materials which drop from the Invader.
What I am saying is strictly based on material drops itself!
The Lynx Invader only has 5 materials it can drop at any given time.
-Lynx Fur
-Leather Straps
-Oak Handle
-Raw Hide
-Rough Blade
The material drop pool amount is reduced vs. Gepid Uber invader material drop pool amount.
The Gepid Uber invader has 20 different materials which can drop from it.
You can acquire a specific item faster from the Regular invader vs. Uber invader.
This statement I am making is factual because I have tested it myself.
I never said only Khazar gear.
Players can mix in Hun gear pieces, but in my experience it isn't necessary.
Here is what you have to understand.
The Royal Guardmen Gear is the Best Invader Gear for improving your Damage + Reducing energy cost vs. Invader.
The problem is you can't wear any of the Royal Guardsmen Gear, until your hero is level 45.
How do you plan to reach level 45 with your hero? You have several options I suppose.
- You could spend money on the game to buy Hero Experience Pack from Bank.
- You could spend money on the game to buy Task Refreshes Pack from Bank.
- You could spend gold to buy Hero Experience from Items - Treasure.
- You could spend gold to buy Task Refreshes from Items - Bonuses.
- You could spend energy attacking Invaders to level up your hero.
Free 2 Play Players or Low Spending Players may not have a lot of money to spend on Bank Offers.
If you can't spend on Bank Offers, You can't buy Hero Experience Packs or Task Refresh Packs which give Hero Experience.
Free 2 Play Players or Low Spending Players may not want to use Gold on Hero Experience or Task Refreshes.
They might want to conserve there free gold for more important things like upgrading there buildings + research.
So it leaves you with 1 option - Attacking invaders so your hero levels up to level 45.
What gear will you use?
Are you going to attack an invader with no gear on?
Do you think attacking an invader naked with no gear is good idea?
Obviously, you should wear gear which helps you vs. invaders.
There are only 2 gears types of gear which can help you vs. Invaders below level 44.
1st gear type = Hero Restoration Gear ------> It helps restore energy faster.
2nd gear type = Hero Experience Gear -----> It helps your hero gain more experience to level up faster.
Obviously, I think the gear you should chose is the Hero Experience Gear.
The Khazar Invader drops materials which can help you create Hero Experience Gear.
The Hun Invader drop materials which can help you create Hero Experience Gear.
The Best Hero Experience Gear in the game is the following:Hun Helmet ----------> Fur Hat
Hun Armor -----------> Stepped Caftan
Khazar Sword -------> Khazar Bow
Khazar Boots -------> Wanderer Boots
Hun Amulet ----------> Golden Bracelets
However, It would be stupid for people to do the above set up.
The set up they should do is the set up I did!
Check out the following set up:
Khazar Helmet -----------------------------------> Plated Helmet
Man Eater or Barbarian Armor ---------------> Bear Coat or Barbarian Armor
Khazar Sword ------------------------------------> Khazar Bow
Khazar Boots ------------------------------------> Wanderer Boots
Khazar Amulet ----------------------------------> Inlaid Belts
The Khazar Amulet give 2% less Hero Experience vs. Hun Amulet, but in exchange it gives you so much extra benefit.
---> You get 18% March Speed to travel to the invaders faster.
---> Your hero can be level 35 to wear Khazar Amulet vs. having to be level 40 to wear Hun Amulet.
---> You will need the Khazar Amulets in the future as materials to craft Bjorn Goblet Amulet (Building Speed Amulet)
Clearly, you can see how the trade off is so worth it!
No reason for you to craft the Golden Bracelet.
Notice again how I recommend the Khazar Helmet vs. Hun Helmet
The Khazar Helmet gives you 10% less Hero Experience vs. Hun Helmet, but in exchange look at the benefits.
---> Easy Access - You will be attacking the Khazar Invader tons of times to get materials.
You will need Khazar materials to make Amulets, Boots, Swords!
You will acquire all the materials needed to make the Khazar Helmet in the process!
---> You will need the Khazar Helmet in the future as materials to craft Hermits Boots (Shaman Learning Speed Boots)
Once again, We arrive to the simple conclusion which I said all along.
Players with a hero level 35 to 44 should craft Khazar Gear.
It is the Best Invader Gear for them to use below level 44.
Players with a hero level 45+ should craft Royal Guard Gear.
It is the Best Invader Gear for them to use above level 45.
The Royal Guard gear gives you the most damage per hit.
The Royal Guard gear gives you reduce energy cost when attacking invaders.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE LEVEL 45.
I was able to max out my Invader Research with a hero level 38.
I was able to attack Uber Invaders with a level 38 hero.
I was able to wear 4 gear pieces at level 38.
- 2x Khazar Amulets
- 1x Khazar Shoes
- 1x Man-Eater Armor
When my hero reached level 40, I was able to wear Khazar Helmet.
My hero was gaining double the experience fighting Uber Invaders using this Hero Experience suit.
It helped me reach level 45 so much faster!
When my hero reached level 45, I began swapping my gear.
I swapped from Hero Experience & Hero Restoration gear to Hero Offense & Hero Endurance gear
Hero Offense & Hero Endurance is what the Royal Guardsmen gear gives.
Thanks again for the long explanation, and the results of your experience which will be of use to many players.
I maintain, that my suggestion, that the drop of Lynx gear from either of the invaders suggested is not guaranteed.
Yes these invaders have this item, but it is possible to keep hitting these invaders and get something else or nothing at all, which is why sometimes it takes so long to get the materials needed to make legendary equipment.
Whatever drops is completely random, whatever the odds might be, as for example with tossing a coin, the odds are 50/50,but,it's possible that you can never get a specific side, because every time the coins flipped, its a new flip, and the coin doesn't know what it did before.
I have been doing a lot of dismantling of dragon rings lately, where you can get either elixir or a diamond back,ideally the stock returned would be balanced to make it easier to reforge more, but often its not.
I haven't actually counted the amount of things that an uber can drop, but it think its considerably more than 20 different items.
As to attacking invaders naked, there is no option to do otherwise until you get enough material to forge some.
It is true to say that there is an element of luck and skill and other gaming factors that can speed up gathering the hero's experience and gear which will be different for other players.
ANYONE said:
It really doesn't matter if you are right, or if you are wrong, you can play the game however you want to, but you cant make others play like you do if they don't want to,or cant,because they don't have the amount of energy you claim to have.
Efficiency ,which is what I was requesting the answer to,is redundant if you have millions to spare.
I don't necessarily disagree that ubers are good, though not as good as they once were.
We are only here , because another player posted to my original question,and you came in with your input.
Its no good telling me what I already knew about ubers and not answering the question I asked , but answering the question you wanted to, that's how exams are failed.
It doesn't matter how good ubers are if you haven't the energy to attack them,and are just wanting to make the most of the energy available and current game status.
If energy was no object , I would definitely not worry about wasting it, and would attack ubers, even without maxing invader knowledge,as it wouldn't be necessary.
Efficiency is the state or quality of being efficient.
Efficient is achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.
I have shared with you the definitions of the word Efficiency & Efficient.
Both words have nothing to do with whether or not a person has millions of energy to spare or not.
The words represent a person striving to do the best they can with what is available to them while being mindful of the cost.
The fact I have millions of energy only gives me another perceptive.
Some days, I use tons of Energy Refills.
I attack different monsters to see which one gives me the best things.
Other days, I chose not to use any Energy Refills.
It could be due to a lot of reasons as to why I wouldn't use my Energy Refills.
Maybe, the Game has invaders which I don't need materials from.
Maybe, I am busy doing something in real life and don't have the time to use a lot of Energy Refills.
Days like these - I only use the energy which is available to me.
The energy which the game restores naturally on my account.
I know what it is like to not have energy.
I know what it is like to have energy.
Regardless of the situation, I still strive to be Efficient.
As far as failing an exam, The truth is everyone on this thread has answered your question.
The answer they gave was a subtle answer which you refused to accept.
What invader gives the best value? Ubers
You know this answer.
Everyone has told you this answer.
You refused to accept this answer.
Than you asked a question.
I would now like to know how to get the best materials from L.5 invaders?
Isn't the answer to the question your asking kind of obvious?You can't get the best materials or value from L.5 Invaders.
The best materials & value comes from Ubers which is what everyone has already told you.
They were answering your question is a very subtle way.
In fact, I want to rehearse this thread.
Sometimes, it can be very helpful to hear another person retelling a thread.
You started the thread 1 year - You said how do I get the best Value.
-------> They flocked to your thread - YOU NEED TO ATTACK UBERS FOR BEST VALUE!
-------> The OP made an excuse - I can't attack Ubers - My research isn't high enough.
-------> They told you to stop what your doing - GET YOUR INVADER RESEARCH MAXED - THAN ATTACK UBERS!
-------> The OP made another excuse - I don't have enough energy.
-------> They told you to save energy - SO YOU CAN ATTACK UBERS.
--------> The OP ignored them all and asked them what invader should he attack in the meantime
--------> They told you - You can attack any other Garbage Invader you want - IT DOESN'T MATTER
--------> UBERS ARE THE BEST BABY - If you want to succeed, You attack Ubers!
---------> Threads goes dead for 1 year
---------> Players comes back - Says you know what? - Out of all the garbage invaders - level 1 invaders not so bad.
---------> Attacking level 1 invaders can help you unlock the "On The Hunt Achievement"
---------> "On the Hunt Achievement" can give you more gold so you can attack MORE UBERS!
---------> Players come to the revived thread - Yeah, what your saying is solid advice
---------> The OP of the thread comes back to the thread - He askes a new question
---------> The OP ask the question How do I extract value from level 5 invaders?
---------> They flocked to the OP thread again - YOU NEED TO ATTACK UBERS!
---------> The OP made an excuse - I can't attack Ubers - My research isn't high enough.
---------> They you to stop what your doing - GET YOUR INVADER RESEARCH MAXED - THAN ATTACK UBERS!
--------> The OP made another excuse - You people just don't understand - I don't have enough energy.
-------> They told you to save energy - SO YOU CAN ATTACK UBERS.
--------> THE OP THROWS HIS HANDS IN THE AIR
--------> The OP says I just don't understand why people don't want to answer my question.
--------> Player J comes to the thread to save the day!
--------> Player J says they have answered your question a million times - The answer is always the same!
--------> ATTACK THE UBERS!
The game has designed the Ubers to carry special items.
You will never get any of those special items, unless you attack an Uber.
You can't extract anything of real value from any of the other invaders.
The game hasn't programmed the other invaders to give tons of value.
The Uber Invaders are special!
You have been playing for 1 year.
I have been playing for 3 weeks - I'm a beginner
You are the veteran player - You should be aware of all of this
You should be explaining it to me - Not the other way around.
The first research I maxed out was Invader research.
I listened to the veteran players telling me to max out the Invader Research.
It cost me 0 dollars to max out my Invader Research.
I used the Gold from my Achievements to get Speed ups
The team I am in is very coordinated - We help each other do big upgrades - We all send resources to the person.
Anyone is able to do this with out spending money.
However, Shaman Research is another beast of its own.
The First Research I finished was Invader
The Second Research I am trying to finish is Shaman.
The Shaman Research is the worst!
I had to buy the month subscription of resources.
My team was sending me billions of resources.
It was still not enough resources!
1 Upgrade = 1 Billion of each resource = 700 weeks to finish the upgrade.
Though my follow up question is still of interest to me.
After this I am pretty much done with your tedious responses.
Your rehearsal, is totally out of synchronisation with what actually happened.
In my opening post,I never meant to ask what was the best of any invader to attack. I subsequently said I choose a bad title for it .
The intended question was:
What is the best invader to attack of levels 1-4.when to switch ,when you have maxed out the invader knowledge as far as L.4
The follow up question, a year later, was prompted by someone posting on this page,otherwise I would have started a new question elsewhere.
When I posted the original question, I already knew all about uber invaders.
I didn't need any one else then, or you now, telling me to forget about normal invaders and go for uber invaders instead.
No..
If I ask how to get the best materials from L.5 that's the question I want answering, not someone answering 'attack ubers instead'.
ANYONE said:
Though my follow up question is still of interest to me.
After this I am pretty much done with your tedious responses.
Your rehearsal, is totally out of synchronisation with what actually happened.
In my opening post,I never meant to ask what was the best of any invader to attack. I subsequently said I choose a bad title for it .
The intended question was:
What is the best invader to attack of levels 1-4.when to switch ,when you have maxed out the invader knowledge as far as L.4
The follow up question, a year later, was prompted by someone posting on this page,otherwise I would have started a new question elsewhere.
When I posted the original question, I already knew all about uber invaders.
I didn't need any one else then, or you now, telling me to forget about normal invaders and go for uber invaders instead.
No..
If I ask how to get the best materials from L.5 that's the question I want answering, not someone answering 'attack ubers instead'.
Here is fruit for thought:
What you meant to ask vs. what you did ask are 2 very different things.
You created a post with a title which said "Invaders which level give the best value."
You created a comment right after which had same follow up question.
3 different people came to your thread answering your question.
Than & only than did you say you made an "Error" You say you meant to say something else.
But it is to late - The reader has already read everything else previously.
From a reader perspective, It just seems as if you are asking a new question.
And that is what my rehearsal demonstrates.
My rehearsal isn't out of sync.
You are the one not looking at the situation at face value.
You are the one not taking responsibility for what you said previously.
You can ignore it all you want, but it doesn't change the perspective from the reader.
Anyway, It doesn't matter.
I think the invaders are the easiest thing in the game to figure out.
Anyone can figure them out pretty fast.
