Sol 46 said:

Is there seperation in the bg banks between off and de

NO, there is only one bank.  However, the payout is weighted towards Offense or Defense depending on the type of BG you receive the payout from. 

Example: 

You have an Offensive BG that is ready to be dropped by as few as 20 pikeman.

Your last payout was heavy Defense and you want Offense

You pay back in the sufficient defensive units (RSS) value to receive a payout from the afre mentioned offensive BG (Maths not included, sorry)

Then you kill the Offensive BG, affectively trading Defense for Offense.

Oadin said:

I have been smashing bgs for weeks getting 15-25mil troops not a problem.. After this update I got reward of 14083grifns n it was lvl145 def.. After sending them back in plus extras I can't even get payouts on lvl80 or high70s... Does ur bank stay the same always or does it reset if dropping down to lower lvl bgs

It sounds like your bank finally caught up to you. Receiving a pure Bestiary payout of what is pretty far below the average payout for that level (33,707,580  below average, based off the figures you provided) is a strong indicator that your bank was severely depleted. Honestly you got pretty lucky to have received the payout from the L145. 

However, to answer your question, based off what i have experienced, your current bank can be affected by the payouts you receive. The concept that "It's always there just waiting to be pulled back out" is a red herring; it only proves factual when you pay back in enough units to make it pay out (but if you were calculating it,, you will see there was a loss).

My one piece of advice here: When this occurs, drop BELOW 70s (I usually go down to the 50s , sometimes even 20s) and work your way back up.

All of your troops given in a bg payout play into the algorithms. Say you haul in 1kk troop strength from both offensive/defensive payouts. You will have to pay that back with about 10% interest before getting as nother good payout. Rss play a factor, too...just not as much. Use your RSS payouts to build more troops if you lose troops in a war. Word to the wise.....dont use your payouts for wars. It becomes wasteful and time consuming.

Lords and Ladies, there can be several reasons why you feel like you get a small reward. First of all, remember that the reward size may differ even for the same Battleground level. Also, try to minimize your losses by analyzing the Balur's Units on a Battleground before raiding it. Check the Unit Defensive stats. Choose the type of Units that will be the most successfull against Balur's forces. Remember that Cavalry Units may be the strongest ones, but they're not always the best type of Units to send at a Battleground.

Taziar said:

I have a few of questions about battlegrounds, any tips would be much appreciated!

1- What is the best way to fill up the BG bank? Is it by sacrificing units to the highest mission BG's without beating it? does beating lower BG's not fill up the bank properly?

2- What is the best BG to get your pay out at, is it the highest mission or the BG right after it. Is getting payouts in mid level BG's bad?

3- Last and not least! How to determine if I got the full payout, and is there a way to trigger a full payout? 

Thanks a lot guys! 

BGs are based on rss invested if you dont invest enough rss/units you will not get a pay. Dragons are worth the most rss so that will fill your bank the quickest. Your mission bg only pays half if you want a full payout you will have to kill one below mission.

Taziar said:

I have a few of questions about battlegrounds, any tips would be much appreciated!

1- What is the best way to fill up the BG bank? Is it by sacrificing units to the highest mission BG's without beating it? does beating lower BG's not fill up the bank properly?

2- What is the best BG to get your pay out at, is it the highest mission or the BG right after it. Is getting payouts in mid level BG's bad?

3- Last and not least! How to determine if I got the full payout, and is there a way to trigger a full payout? 

Thanks a lot guys! 

why you want to play bg? bg is waste of time and troops. Bg are only giving your own resource back only in different form(well if they give it back) because the bank is sometimes reseted by Game and many player lost millions of resource.

If you can train high level  troops never play bg because is just waste of time there are big lies out there about bg that you can turn 10m into 50m and so on,but wonder how idiot someone can be by testing it in 1 week and still don't understand that's not the case and still playing battlegrounds.

There is no guarantee in bg payout even your highest and second highest will not pay always.

I have a few of questions about battlegrounds, any tips would be much appreciated!

1- What is the best way to fill up the BG bank? Is it by sacrificing units to the highest mission BG's without beating it? does beating lower BG's not fill up the bank properly?

2- What is the best BG to get your pay out at, is it the highest mission or the BG right after it. Is getting payouts in mid level BG's bad?

3- Last and not least! How to determine if I got the full payout, and is there a way to trigger a full payout? 

Thanks a lot guys! 

ahil5 said:

It's already done so, and the answer from these same people was that some bag is in the game and that something is wrong.

I personally think that this answer is not helpful at all, you're just looking to discover, and nothing help. Because this is not a help ..

It would be the same as when you came to the bank and asked you to take away $ 200, and they tell you, look for some of our experienced clients to explain to you, and help you know why you do not have more that $ 200.

Lol

I can only give some pointers

If you have a facebook account then ask some help there, as are more active players are there on  FbForum

It's already done so, and the answer from these same people was that some bag is in the game and that something is wrong.

I personally think that this answer is not helpful at all, you're just looking to discover, and nothing help. Because this is not a help ..

It would be the same as when you came to the bank and asked you to take away $ 200, and they tell you, look for some of our experienced clients to explain to you, and help you know why you do not have more that $ 200.

ahil5 said:

This way .. I played bg, lost over 25m of def and offs and maybe even more, in the end my payment was 4m off ... Or 1800 dragons and 300 griffins .. I do not see how this is possible if we need to fill to the bank to get at least the same payment we have invested .. Mathematics is basically not good ... I was sick, but they cooled me off with the explanation that you never know how much the payout will be .. Shameful

There are many helpful players in game who can help you with Battle ground if you lookout and ask for it.

This way .. I played bg, lost over 25m of def and offs and maybe even more, in the end my payment was 4m off ... Or 1800 dragons and 300 griffins .. I do not see how this is possible if we need to fill to the bank to get at least the same payment we have invested .. Mathematics is basically not good ... I was sick, but they cooled me off with the explanation that you never know how much the payout will be .. Shameful

Bgs have puzzled me for a long time, but my alliance mates helped me out in clearing a lot of things up and now I choose when I get payment but there are still a few mysteries.

First off doing bgs when your troops are not upgraded and you don't already have at least 2-3 mill power at your disposal don't even bother to grind them. There is a list of how much rss each BG lvl can bank, you should look that up. So basically what I do or did was bringing my mission bg to slight and a couple of bgs under my mission one until I wasted stuff I got from last payout and so I did it, it wasn't much... The mission always payed out but nothing fancy until one day by mistake I hit a non mission one It was lvl 80 or so and I got 2601 warlocks and 520 demons from it and was astound cos I never even invested close to that amount of rss, the mission one didn't pay anything after that for the first time, then I reinvested all of it and continued but it didn't work, the mission started to pay but it was ripping me off big time so just a few lvls ahead and I couldn't even bring my mission to slight.

Then I started tinkering with the many guides my alliance provides us with and noticed that the lvl 80 bg banks around 30 mill rss or so and when you count my warlocks and demons it was the exact number I remember. So after that I got my bank number or close to it, I stopped getting payouts from mission BGs and just slighted it then I would also bring down (slight) two or three bgs bellow my mission offense and my mission defense. Then I would just watch how many troops I loaded up for example I loaded up 40 mill of rss worth now I go and start finishing my slighted lvl 86, 87, 88 (cos thats around the max those bgs can rack up or pay out) and I get the payout from the first one I finish it's always occult two types and you get that when your bank is 90% full. Then I finish mission bg to bring me further up. I also stay on both sides cos it's easy to just run out of things to kill ie load up your bank. I load up stuff then when I run out of my payout I count it up and I hit for example lvl 90 defense non mission (cos I killed around 44 mill rss worth of my troops) and get my huge payout then I do the same thing and I hit lvl 91 defense also huge payout all in ocults two types then when I don't have any more defense bgs to slight I finish the lvl 92 offense one also huge payout now in more offense troops and now I kill all the offense bgs. I keep at least 4 bgs slighted at all times in case I don't get payed so I can hit mission one and get something to save myself. And this works for me.

There is just one thing that worries me a bit, each time I get that huge payout from a lvl higher I get more stuff than I invested, my latest payout was lvl 94 offense non mission 3601 necromancer (also by accident I didnt even load up my whole 40 mill rss when I got it), thats the exact 52 mill rss for that bg, problem is I didn't bank in that much to get that reward and it happens for some time now even before that I always get a little extra when I pick up my payout. I don't get if that's like a loan or something cos it was not my troops for sure and will it hurt me later on. I do keep track of everything that goes in and out, I have a minus (debt to bg) but I still get rewarded when I load up my last payout and hit the appropriate lvl of bg for my bank. I just would like to know how long will I be able to keep that up.

Always interested in learning about BG's. Ive tested killing 1-50 each day and everyday I seem to be able to climb less and less levels until I wouldn't even get a payout from a level 25 (I never used any payouts for anything other than BG's). Soo idk my theory is that equipment thats paid out will lower your bank as well.

Taziar said:

I have a few of questions about battlegrounds, any tips would be much appreciated!

1- What is the best way to fill up the BG bank? Is it by sacrificing units to the highest mission BG's without beating it? does beating lower BG's not fill up the bank properly?

2- What is the best BG to get your pay out at, is it the highest mission or the BG right after it. Is getting payouts in mid level BG's bad?

3- Last and not least! How to determine if I got the full payout, and is there a way to trigger a full payout? 

Thanks a lot guys! 

why you want to play bg? bg is waste of time and troops. Bg are only giving your own resource back only in different form(well if they give it back) because the bank is sometimes reseted by Game and many player lost millions of resource.

If you can train high level  troops never play bg because is just waste of time there are big lies out there about bg that you can turn 10m into 50m and so on,but wonder how idiot someone can be by testing it in 1 week and still don't understand that's not the case and still playing battlegrounds.

There is no guarantee in bg payout even your highest and second highest will not pay always.

Last and not the least forget loosing troops in battleground they will only give back your own resource (if they give it back). absolutely no profit don't be scammed by those lying about bg.

All the above are pretty much correct...but... in their own line?  If you want max payout...there is one way...points...another.   I have placed top 10 in my tier..and collected a lvl 123 payout.

I can perform a cleanup of bg 1-87 every day for points....or I can advance 1 lvl per week. (Without coining) take your choice.

But....unless your bank is 999,999,999...you. It's choose....at lvl 131....beyond that.. do not know.

Simple rule..... y bank is 124,000,000 resource.... I can clear 1-87 daily.

Max mission is 123 after 3-weeks investment and 40k sapphires.

If you MUST see 12,000 warlocks and 5600 demon in your stock....clear mission.  If you raid someone with those warlocks.....the metal MUST go back in.

Bg has never robbed me.....but it ALWAYS demands refilling.