GOOD:

Coalition missions and new units 

BAD:

firstly definitely Persian Positions change. Then grain negative units dont die removal (they live out of air :/ ). And we arrive at other only CC players features items sketches and other BS, only for $$$

Pantheon filter - NEEDED

Positions - BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM

UJ - FOR PRESIDENT

the most epic updates of the year are:

1- Coalition missions

2- Reduced grain consumption for champions units

3- Units will not longer be dismissed when you lack the grain to maintain them

4- Changes to Persian position mechanics

and the most worst updates are:

1- New levels of buildings (you can use sketches to upgrade them even further and gain especial bonuses)

2- global tournaments

NEW ROMANS UNITS

apart from that, i only saw bad updates, pps killed that was the best "free" source to gain better troops and coiner background all around.

p.s. the list is missing the king of updates, what has changed a war game in a slaughterhouse: battle algorithm.

Just Alt F4 the PP new system, the sure reward is mess up, even myself cant even predict when the reward will come, try many method still, the PP change more often

Weaken all position when getting big reward you notice losing 20%

weaken all position end up having 30% of total army in hand

probably not deserting troops its peace of mind while being in negative, but never had gigantic army to be too big of an issue.

back to change to PP, i don't see any problem with it.

I track my resources in spreadsheet, when i reach my previous payout value, then and only then i weak and not kill extra PP or two to push resources 10-20% over last payout, then hit desired PP level to receive payout, payment nearly guaranteed, and no surprise, you get what u paid in advance.

I really like the crazy guy who does the "12 Days of Christmas"  :)

So what should i pick?

Best - Coalition missions

I don't understand, why most of you hate the persion position change, if a remember corectly, in the old system you get units only from the highest positions and nothing would make you do the lower ones, not even for coalition quests or warfares, when you would get absolutely nothing for sacrificing alot, it the new system, you get at least something (with a small chance for a multiplied reward, which is fair), i don't understand this logic. After this change, the rewards from positions are generaly better.

Milles said:

I don't understand, why most of you hate the persion position change, if a remember corectly, in the old system you get units only from the highest positions and nothing would make you do the lower ones, not even for coalition quests or warfares, when you would get absolutely nothing for sacrificing alot, it the new system, you get at least something (with a small chance for a multiplied reward, which is fair), i don't understand this logic. After this change, the rewards from positions are generaly better.

The reason is when the bank to pay back is huge, you need to clear lots of positions before getting a full payout.

At the same time, partial payouts you can collect on the way are less and less interesting as you hit higher level positions (I mean they're smaller and smaller compared to the needed investment to clear that level).

However, the full payout is much bigger, so it's OK in the end, but reaching it can take ages and you may fall out of troops before.

So the change is a problem for players who were hitting top positions when it was introduced.

As long as you keep hitting medium levels, you should be fine.

So when you'll reach levels 70 and so, you'll have to think twice before deciding to go on, as new positions levels are random, but are obviously spread from 1 to your maximum level... And the higher you get, the rarer easier positions drop.

By the way, nothing prevented people from hitting the lowest positions in their list if needed. You could pay back the bank with whatever position level without a problem (lower positions obviously paid back less, that's all).

It has always been better to finish the cycle hitting a position level high enough to give you a payout that was big enough to compensate the losses you had accumulated to get there, that's all. So you're right about the necessity to hit high levels, but it was only necessary to conclude and get the payout (that's why you always had, and still have to keep track of your investment to know when to hit the finishing position).

The only real difference with the new system is now you always get something from every position you finish, which is hepful to beginners (people were complaining not to get payouts all the time, so the change actually comes from players' pleads).

The drawback is they all add up to your next bank. The total payout is then bigger than before, but it makes the next bank bigger as well.

It just makes completing the next cycle longer to reach the next full payout... But the principle itself hasn't changed at all.

Hello Archon,

Denarii are used to train all Roman units in place of classical resources. However, you do need to convert timber and bronze into denarii first from your Argentarium. You can also get them directly from colonies, and as tournament rewards.

To be able to hire Roman units, you must first build the Argentarium, then sign the relevant agreements. All of them require Glory Points (GPs) to buy the needed articles. You get GPs from tournaments, mostly PvP related ones.

Roman units are not absolutely necessary. There are two independant branches : the intermediate infantry ones, and the high end offensive phalanx and defensive cavalry ones, that are very good.

The infantry ones are rather speed oriented, and most of them have equivalent classical greek units or Carthaginian units, so you may chose not to sign them immediately if you don't have GPs to spare, and sign them later if you want. In this branch, the most interesting ones are the Legionnaires, strong and fast (though the newly added Golden Shield Warriors are quite similar now).

It can sometimes be a matter of not having enough classical resources to produce regular units (or needing them for buildings or signing agreements) and have spare denarii, so you may chose to produce Roman units instead for a while in this situation...

Actually, there are many equivalent, or almost equivalent units, so chose wisely before spending your precious GPs.

Since you'll also need GPs to sign the high end greek phalanx and cavalry, the wisest choice may be to spare them for this, but it's of course up to you.

However, the very last Roman units (Evocati and Legates) are really very powerful and worth he effort and patience. :)

Now you can perhaps anwser the poll, knowing what to do with denarii... :)