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13 черв. 2017, 09:3013.06.17
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Red-Terror said:

this bug is still present.
Our developers are working on many fixes right now. As soon as they fix this issue, we will let you know in the News section.
13 черв. 2017, 16:5213.06.17
13 черв. 2017, 16:52(відредаговано)
31.07.15
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My problem is the following:

- I start developing a protocol that takes 2d 21h 24m

- I activate the speed bonus

- I'm going to check the remaining time and it's still 2d 21h 24m (so nothing has changed!).


I am perfectly aware that when the 3 hours of bonus is over, the protocol development time returns to 2d 21h ... BUT WHILE THE BONUS IS ACTIVE (3h) the time should be shortened !! (As it was before it was affected by this bug!!)

14 черв. 2017, 11:4514.06.17
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Red-Terror said:


My problem is the following:

- I start developing a protocol that takes 2d 21h 24m

- I activate the speed bonus

- I'm going to check the remaining time and it's still 2d 21h 24m (so nothing has changed!).


I am perfectly aware that when the 3 hours of bonus is over, the protocol development time returns to 2d 21h ... BUT WHILE THE BONUS IS ACTIVE (3h) the time should be shortened !! (As it was before it was affected by this bug!!)

You're right. Once you activate your UCAV, time should be cut a bit. Please report it to our Support Team: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new I could not reproduce this issue. it's working fine on my test account.

16 черв. 2017, 12:1616.06.17
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scott-817 said:


 I think there is some lag in the recalculation that only seems to show up after a hour or so.  For the first half hour I see no difference but after an hour the values change to what they should be. Maybe its some weird kind of calculation that needs to run a hour before it figures out what it should be. It does change though if yo monitor it through the entire process in my testing at least.


It should recalculate values as soon as you activate the bonus. Probably some kind of lag.


23 черв. 2017, 18:0323.06.17
03.08.16
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Please see my follow on Post- I have discovered there is s serious problem with the UCAV. and in actual fact it may be better not to use the bonus . I think the bonus as the previous poster has said only works for the first 3 hours and then when it the UCAV is inactive the time is increased 30% beyond the original inactive time.



UCAV activation off -



http://prntscr.com/f1a0ip



http://prntscr.com/f1a3vd



UCAV activation on -



http://prntscr.com/f1a41f



http://prntscr.com/f1a492



I did contact support about this issue,. and they advised me that the time to complete a UCAV shown will be different depending on whether the UCAV was active or not active when the protocol development bonus was in use.


The protocol development speed bonus reduces the time it takes for the protocol to develop.

So in a sense it give an unrealistic time for when the UCAV is active,. as compared as to when it is inactive, but does revert back to the correct time once the UCAV goes back to inactive.

I wait to see if the finish time is between 1 day and 8 hours and 2 days, thus proving the protocol development speed bonus is having an effect.


AFTER THE PROTOCOL BONUS ENDED - IT ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 17HOURS

( I also lose the 3 hours i ran the bonus and get no bonus obviously)

Here is the result: It has added an additional 17 hours onto the original inactive time given.,

http://prntscr.com/f1bbu0


I can now confirm once again after testing that there is a serious problem with the UCAV.,

24 черв. 2017, 00:0924.06.17
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Sir...Support has the technology to test the UCAV times..If they say that the times displayed is correct,  then I would have to bank on what Support says...Any reduction of time is only in effect as long as the UCAV is active..Once the UCAV is inactive the times revert...The trick would be to keep the UCAV active, and please bear in mind that as the time for protocol development gets less the reduction of that time decreases as well..
24 черв. 2017, 02:0824.06.17
03.08.16
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RobertShatz said:


Sir...Support has the technology to test the UCAV times..If they say that the times displayed is correct,  then I would have to bank on what Support says...Any reduction of time is only in effect as long as the UCAV is active..Once the UCAV is inactive the times revert...The trick would be to keep the UCAV active, and please bear in mind that as the time for protocol development gets less the reduction of that time decreases as well..

Please read the Post before you reply. I am just a little amazed that after a month of posting you haven't understood my position, or the content contained in this thread has covered. I guess i should not go to all the trouble of posting print screens of the active and inactive times if your not going to even look at them and understand better what the thread is about. 


I am aware the time reverts and for the hundred'th time that is not the issue. read my post, it is 2 posts up and specifically addresses the confusion your causing by not properly reading posts.  


There is a bug regardless and unless they fix it then people are not getting the bonus. 


24 черв. 2017, 02:0924.06.17
03.08.16
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Raging Bro said:


The reason this problem is so difficult to explain and communicate is because people think that we are looking at the reduced time when we activate the bonus and then looking at the normal time after the bonus expires. That is not the case. 


I have researched this problem, and i have refreshed cleared cache and made sure UCAV was not active and the bonus not saved. I have found that there is a bug- That after you start the protocol, you have a set time, then later after applying the protocol bonus, and after it expires for soem inexplical reason the time to completion actually increases beyond the first set time. 


Everytime i try to explain, the devs and mods always think im looking at the bonus time, and the time has simply reverted back to the orgional time. However that is not what is happening, there is a bug. 


This bug may be cancelling out any effect the protocol bonus has and in fact may make the protocol longer to research. 


I did raise it with technical but they were quite argumentative and insisted there is no problem.


So this bug is going to continue. 




Hi Robert 



Read this post then please remember to read the posts before you comment. 
23 черв. 2017, 17:5123.06.17
03.08.16
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The reason this problem is so difficult to explain and communicate is because people think that we are looking at the reduced time when we activate the bonus and then looking at the normal time after the bonus expires. That is not the case. 


I have researched this problem, and i have refreshed cleared cache and made sure UCAV was not active and the bonus not saved. I have found that there is a bug- That after you start the protocol, you have a set time, then later after applying the protocol bonus, and after it expires for soem inexplical reason the time to completion actually increases beyond the first set time. 


Everytime i try to explain, the devs and mods always think im looking at the bonus time, and the time has simply reverted back to the orgional time. However that is not what is happening, there is a bug. 


This bug may be cancelling out any effect the protocol bonus has and in fact may make the protocol longer to research. 


I did raise it with technical but they were quite argumentative and insisted there is no problem.


So this bug is going to continue. 
15 черв. 2017, 22:4215.06.17
16 черв. 2017, 03:14(відредаговано)
06.04.17
15

 I think there is some lag in the recalculation that only seems to show up after a hour or so.  For the first half hour I see no difference but after an hour the values change to what they should be. Maybe its some weird kind of calculation that needs to run a hour before it figures out what it should be. It does change though if yo monitor it through the entire process in my testing at least.

28 квіт. 2017, 15:0828.04.17
03.08.16
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The test just finished in the last 10 hours.
27 квіт. 2017, 10:5227.04.17
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


This bonus doesn't cut the time, it increases the speed. That's different. And you're right, once 3 hours expire, the speed goes back to normal. However, the total time for such a research will take less than the original time without UCAV bonus. 

However, your ss shows the issue of adding additional training time. Could you please specify if it gets fixed after you reload the page?


Hi


No refreshing the page does not fix the problem. In any case  it should never go above the 2 day limit it started with. It is clearly in error and frustrating that the protocol bonus's in the UCAV have serious issues., I had spent considerable time upgrading.



I have sent the matter to Support and they have replied but again i have to go through the process of explaining to them as i have done here, that it is a problem and not simply a user error but in fact a system error., I can understand why you might have a high percentage of user errors but in this actual case it is definetly a system error.
27 квіт. 2017, 01:3627.04.17
03.08.16
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http://prntscr.com/f1a6r7


Here we go.


It should revert back to the original time -3 hrs and the bonus.,.,.,.


1 day and 21 hours  less the bonus.

Then i will re activate the bonus several time and post the end time.

27 квіт. 2017, 01:3127.04.17
27 квіт. 2017, 04:40(відредаговано)
03.08.16
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Please see my follow on Post- I have discovered there is s serious problem with the UCAV. and in actual fact it may be better not to use the bonus . I think the bonus as the previous poster has said only works for the first 3 hours and then when it the UCAV is inactive the time is increased 30% beyond the original inactive time.


UCAV activation off -


http://prntscr.com/f1a0ip


http://prntscr.com/f1a3vd


UCAV activation on -


http://prntscr.com/f1a41f


http://prntscr.com/f1a492


I did contact support about this issue,. and they advised me that the time to complete a UCAV  shown will be different depending on whether the UCAV was active or not active when the protocol development bonus was in use. 


The protocol development speed bonus reduces the time it takes for the protocol to develop. 


So in a sense it give an unrealistic time for when the UCAV is active,. as compared as to when it is inactive, but does revert back to the correct time once the UCAV goes back to inactive.


I wait to see if the finish time is between 1 day and 8 hours and 2 days, thus proving the protocol development speed bonus is having an effect. 




26 квіт. 2017, 14:3126.04.17
31.07.15
1685

The RAGING BRO user is right!

The bonus does not work.


more precisely:

If you activate the bonus BEFORE starting the development of the protocol, then the bonus is correctly applied on trading time .... But when 3 hours are over, if you activate the bonus again, its effect is no longer applied to the protocols that are already under development !!


In short, you will only benefit to the bonus in the first 3 hours ... and ONLY if you have activated the bonus BEFORE starting the protocol negotiation!

If the protocol negotiation is already started, then you can activate the bonus as often as you like, but its effect is NOT applied to the trading time.



20 квіт. 2017, 21:0120.04.17
03.08.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Countdown changes once your UCAV becomes inactive. It works just as I've described you above :) As I said, it's not an error. Not a glitch. It's our game mechanics.

I am perfectly aware how the UCAV works. Your analogy i hope was helpful to others but i understand how the UCAV works and i can say with scientific certainty that the timer is miscalculating and taking longer than the actual given time regardless of the bonus being active or not. The time it is taking to complete the Protocol is actually exceeding the initial time given for completion. 

19 квіт. 2017, 20:5819.04.17
27 квіт. 2017, 01:32(відредаговано)
03.08.16
111

It actually took over 24 hours to complete what was displayed as 21 hrs and 20 min to complete.


There is one serious issue here.


If the protocol displays an upgrade time of 21hrs and 20 mins and takes in actual time  24hrs 20 min 


Then the protocol timer is in error

or

The protocol suggested time for completion is in error


Either way the 50% bonus is obsolete.


I think that for a game that charges players $99 dollars for bonus items and a company that has a billion dollar revenues,that the logarithmic would work satisfactorily, this is clear evidence (prima faci) that Soldiers Inc logarithmic does not work. Your charge your customers too much and in return provide an inferior and defective system and service.