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26 берез. 2021, 15:2426.03.21
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Fix the Arena

I am so sick of this joke of an arena.

I was crusing in gold 1/2, then within a space of 2 week I was fighting for my life in Silver 1, 

now bronze 3 is looking like a reality and if you start telling me about my team im going to clime through this monitor and drop kick you in the chest.

but before you ask, Im pay (not whale but a good amount)

Yes my team is all lvl60

yes they are fully booked 

yes I have all the right mastries 

yes my crit rate on my nuker is 100%

yes I understand team synergy

all my gear is lvl16 with glyphs 

all my asseccories are lvl16 with glyphs 

etc........

so please dont reply and regurgitate a Hell Hades guide to me because its not that.


the matchmaking needs a complete redesign, so that you are placed against player you have a fair chance of beating. 


Plarium THIS should be you no1 priority not...

new factions 

new events

new dugeons 

new clan VS clan (bank account vs bank account)

new ways to sweeze every penny out of us you can


why are you adding more and more function and content when one of the most basic game modes is completly broken?


Fix the Arena



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26 берез. 2021, 16:3426.03.21
231033

Every one should start to right tickets about pvp !!

26 берез. 2021, 18:4026.03.21
26 берез. 2021, 18:41(відредаговано)
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I just watched my helga steelgerdle get 2 shotted in bronze 4........she has 63k Hp and nearly 3k def. 

Not the highest you can get those stats but high enough that it should not be happening to me.


27 берез. 2021, 03:4927.03.21
30.11.19
3

Arena is a complete mess. Not sure what changed but all the teams are way out of my reach now

27 берез. 2021, 14:2327.03.21
231033

Plarium keeps saying "players don't know what to do so they keep losing".

27 берез. 2021, 14:5327.03.21
27 берез. 2021, 14:54(відредаговано)
15.10.20
871

And just tested it again, higher power than me, but i got 7 points?

Does anyone know how it is calculated? Really frustrating that 2 wins can be wiped out by one loss


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27 берез. 2021, 16:3727.03.21
231033

I have posted a fix for the arena problem please check Game dicussion for it, hope it helps


27 берез. 2021, 17:0027.03.21
27 берез. 2021, 17:14(відредаговано)
15.10.20
871
L9753

It's calculated based on your exact score at the time of the battle. If you have a higher score than them, you'll get less than 10 points for beating them, if you have a lower score, you'll get more than 10 points. Power, player level, team strength etc. have nothing to do with that. 

You can easily see this if you take a look at all your opponents at your next refresh - from top to bottom, they'll have increasing scores and you'll also see the number of points per victory increasing accordingly. Although it may be possible that the final score you get for a victory is different from what you saw on your screen beforehand, in case the target's score has changed significantly by the time you attacked them. 

Thank you so much, i never noticed!! and i tend to start at the top and work my way down so it makes sense why i get poor points :)

As for the state of silver, well hopefully my logs show its not newbie teams there, and to be fair i win about 2/3 of the fights i start .. then get hammered in defence

My team has changed, its apoth (for speed boost), battlesage (aura and 50% attack up), draco (defence down and weaken) then zavia for the big nuke.

It would appear that is a strong bronze / weak silver team since i always wake up and find i have been hammered down close to bronze (i switch out draco for dhukk in defence since i think draco prioritises poison on auto) then spend ages working back up...its tiring and i am questioning if this is the game for me. Especially when i see people claiming 'you just arent trying' :) 


27 берез. 2021, 17:0527.03.21
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Or you could just lower you're player power by getting rid of all the champs and gear you are just keeping for the sake of keeping and all the opponents that will be drawn will be easier 

27 берез. 2021, 17:0727.03.21
15.10.20
871
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Or you could just lower you're player power by getting rid of all the champs and gear you are just keeping for the sake of keeping and all the opponents that will be drawn will be easier 

I could, i have a lot of faction war characters levelled to 40 - but it seems extremely cheesey to have to do that.

27 берез. 2021, 17:1427.03.21
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you only need 5 per faction, but if you're anything like me you prob have 20 or 30 per faction 


27 берез. 2021, 22:1327.03.21
27 берез. 2021, 22:16(відредаговано)
15.10.20
871
[IFED] Max *LEADER*

HEY ,, These are the Teams I face in BRONZE TIER I Everyday , all day long 

no matter how many times I refresh


And Yes,, WIN 9 points ,, LOSE 11 ................

Wait, in B1 you are fighting kymar leads and all legendary teams with decked out mountain kings?

That is messed up, i can almost hold my own (i have a fast apoth at 250 speed, and draco has 250 accuracy and zavia has 4.5k attack and nearly 200 crit damage) but - i am still sinking out of silver slowly and not able to do the newbie quests

And yet we have people on here insisting we are making this stuff up (despite me posting logs) and that its just a matter of l2p.

Sad thing is when i do hit bronze, ill be yet another opponent that newbies have no chance against... 

28 берез. 2021, 00:0328.03.21
28 берез. 2021, 00:07(відредаговано)
15.10.20
871
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The whole arena is a joke. I'm a new player and can't even get out of the starting block in Bronze I because every player has their team of Epic and Legendary maxed out and assended. There's no reason to start playing.

The only way to fix it is to place restrictions of what can be used for each tier.

For example:

- Bronze I you can only use 1 Rare (Leader) and Commons.

- Bronze II you can only use 1-2 Rare,  Uncommons and Commons.

- Bronze III you can use 1-3 Rares, Uncommons and Commons.

and so on.

Doing this shouldn't be too hard update to do to fix the balance issues.

Even simpler would be to have bots in bronze and silver - so people can do basic progression for newbie tasks

Gold and plat? sure make it competitive, and let plat stay whale/kraken land.

But the newbie tiers (bronze/silver) should not be full of full legendaries with 30% speed auras etc

However, you can guarantee plarium have analytics coming out of their ears, which are probably telling them that instead of quitting players are burning gems to refresh.

That will encourage them to keep things as they are.

28 берез. 2021, 02:4028.03.21
26.06.19
4

There is definitely something wrong with the arena AND the Clan Boss.   One of my clansmen said he saw a team in the Bronze levels that had 300 power!  I went from Gold 4 where I have been for months to Gold 2 in a few days!  All my clan is frustrated.   You did such an awesome second anniversary,  to which I thank you.   But now,  most of my clan are pretty new to Raid,  and they are getting very frustrated.   I

Hope this is temporary.   You all have been awesome at making the game fun and interesting.   Please fix these areas. 






29 берез. 2021, 01:3029.03.21
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3-4 months ago, I have posted the main problem with arena, THEIR POINTS SYSTEM, TLDR it will put you in the rank relative to the number of people participating in arena, the more people participating the higher you can climb, less people then the lower the position you can get.


No amount of bots or matchmaking tweaks can fix arena UNLESS they fix the points system.


I haven't played this game for a solid 3 months now, but seeing my account is back in bronze 1 and how arena is still not fixed... I don't think I'll be getting back soon.


29 берез. 2021, 03:5029.03.21
29 берез. 2021, 03:50(відредаговано)
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yeah, the funny thing is it seems like Plarium has serious issues understanding what the problem is.

Seems like they just throw more and more arena tokens at you through dailies, challenges, missions, etc etc as if that's going to fix it lol.

"What are you guys doing. Just play it!!! Here's an extra 1000 arena tokens, just fucking play it already!!! And if you lose, just git gud (by dumping more out of your pocket)"

Arena in this game is one of the most p2w things ever. They draw you with the amazing character design just to jab the hell out of you via microtransactions and loot box mechanics.

29 берез. 2021, 10:1229.03.21
15.10.20
871
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Plarium still no response ? :P

Plarium responded to hellhades

In a nutshell it was 'lolz spend more'

29 берез. 2021, 10:1829.03.21
07.02.19
1

Gold Rank IV to Gold Rank I in a few days... I was Rank IV since on year. Very frustrating update. I think i will stop playing this paytowin. Worst update ever.

30 берез. 2021, 02:0930.03.21
231033

Come on J... You know that's not going to solve the problem.

Heroes optimization should not come into play so early in the arena, in Raid's case, it should not be a requirement for bronze rank, maybe Silver 3 and up, but bronze is supposed to be for beginners who start playing and have just start collecting their heroes... 


This is a problem, and by telling people in Bronze to optimize their heroes will only compound the problem not solve it.


And the fact that people can easily drop so drastically from gold 3/ 4to silver 1 (and maybe even further) is a sign that there is something really wrong no amount of player optimization can solve

30 берез. 2021, 21:0830.03.21
08.10.17
1202
Angwil

Same here, have stayed in G4 for over a year.  Now the same cookie-cutter teams with 1/3 of the power are somehow one-shoting me.  2 weeks, hello G2.  WTF?  Same team?  1/3 the power?  Yes RNG can account for that once in a long while, but not 10 times out of 10 freaking matches.

Hey brother you know you and I see eye to eye most times

I agree with you in part

Yes I too have been in Gold 4 for long time holding  my own (pick and choose  my fights)

i actually made Plat tier for a day with the team I still use (and have upgraded their artifacts and glyphs since) but never returned to Plat

I notice Gold 4 tougher for sure (less easy fights to pick). But am now middle Gold 4 where before was top tier 4

Not sure what happened but will say yes Classic arena is tougher. I am still in my tier 4 gold but can appreciate how this impact may of dropped  other players from their tiers

31 берез. 2021, 01:2331.03.21
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I was in Gold 4 Now in Gold 2 and falling.