Every one should start to right tickets about pvp !!

I just watched my helga steelgerdle get 2 shotted in bronze 4........she has 63k Hp and nearly 3k def. 

Not the highest you can get those stats but high enough that it should not be happening to me.

Thank you so much, i never noticed!! and i tend to start at the top and work my way down so it makes sense why i get poor points :)

As for the state of silver, well hopefully my logs show its not newbie teams there, and to be fair i win about 2/3 of the fights i start .. then get hammered in defence

My team has changed, its apoth (for speed boost), battlesage (aura and 50% attack up), draco (defence down and weaken) then zavia for the big nuke.

It would appear that is a strong bronze / weak silver team since i always wake up and find i have been hammered down close to bronze (i switch out draco for dhukk in defence since i think draco prioritises poison on auto) then spend ages working back up...its tiring and i am questioning if this is the game for me. Especially when i see people claiming 'you just arent trying' :) 

Or you could just lower you're player power by getting rid of all the champs and gear you are just keeping for the sake of keeping and all the opponents that will be drawn will be easier 

I could, i have a lot of faction war characters levelled to 40 - but it seems extremely cheesey to have to do that.

you only need 5 per faction, but if you're anything like me you prob have 20 or 30 per faction 

Wait, in B1 you are fighting kymar leads and all legendary teams with decked out mountain kings?

That is messed up, i can almost hold my own (i have a fast apoth at 250 speed, and draco has 250 accuracy and zavia has 4.5k attack and nearly 200 crit damage) but - i am still sinking out of silver slowly and not able to do the newbie quests

And yet we have people on here insisting we are making this stuff up (despite me posting logs) and that its just a matter of l2p.

Sad thing is when i do hit bronze, ill be yet another opponent that newbies have no chance against... 

The whole arena is a joke. I'm a new player and can't even get out of the starting block in Bronze I because every player has their team of Epic and Legendary maxed out and assended. There's no reason to start playing.

The only way to fix it is to place restrictions of what can be used for each tier.

For example:

- Bronze I you can only use 1 Rare (Leader) and Commons.

- Bronze II you can only use 1-2 Rare,  Uncommons and Commons.

- Bronze III you can use 1-3 Rares, Uncommons and Commons.

and so on.

Doing this shouldn't be too hard update to do to fix the balance issues.

Even simpler would be to have bots in bronze and silver - so people can do basic progression for newbie tasks

Gold and plat? sure make it competitive, and let plat stay whale/kraken land.

But the newbie tiers (bronze/silver) should not be full of full legendaries with 30% speed auras etc

However, you can guarantee plarium have analytics coming out of their ears, which are probably telling them that instead of quitting players are burning gems to refresh.

That will encourage them to keep things as they are.

There is definitely something wrong with the arena AND the Clan Boss.   One of my clansmen said he saw a team in the Bronze levels that had 300 power!  I went from Gold 4 where I have been for months to Gold 2 in a few days!  All my clan is frustrated.   You did such an awesome second anniversary,  to which I thank you.   But now,  most of my clan are pretty new to Raid,  and they are getting very frustrated.   I

Hope this is temporary.   You all have been awesome at making the game fun and interesting.   Please fix these areas. 

3-4 months ago, I have posted the main problem with arena, THEIR POINTS SYSTEM, TLDR it will put you in the rank relative to the number of people participating in arena, the more people participating the higher you can climb, less people then the lower the position you can get.

No amount of bots or matchmaking tweaks can fix arena UNLESS they fix the points system.

I haven't played this game for a solid 3 months now, but seeing my account is back in bronze 1 and how arena is still not fixed... I don't think I'll be getting back soon.

yeah, the funny thing is it seems like Plarium has serious issues understanding what the problem is.

Seems like they just throw more and more arena tokens at you through dailies, challenges, missions, etc etc as if that's going to fix it lol.

"What are you guys doing. Just play it!!! Here's an extra 1000 arena tokens, just fucking play it already!!! And if you lose, just git gud (by dumping more out of your pocket)"

Arena in this game is one of the most p2w things ever. They draw you with the amazing character design just to jab the hell out of you via microtransactions and loot box mechanics.

Come on J... You know that's not going to solve the problem.

Heroes optimization should not come into play so early in the arena, in Raid's case, it should not be a requirement for bronze rank, maybe Silver 3 and up, but bronze is supposed to be for beginners who start playing and have just start collecting their heroes... 

This is a problem, and by telling people in Bronze to optimize their heroes will only compound the problem not solve it.

And the fact that people can easily drop so drastically from gold 3/ 4to silver 1 (and maybe even further) is a sign that there is something really wrong no amount of player optimization can solve

I was in Gold 4 Now in Gold 2 and falling.

I have my classic arena team fully equiped (6 star artifacts/ accesories, fully booked, all masteries, everything possible to the max), all legendaries, and i'm afraid already to challenge a team no more than 100k, mostly rare, because arena works in strange ways. How is it possible to lose against a team 130k less power than mine? Why botter to get more legendaries, to get best gear or to keep on playing just to gather more dissapointments?  I will build myself a regular team (Kael, Apothecary, Warmaiden and Spirithost) and never invest a penny anymore to run after legendaries,  just to see them kicked by rare champs because the rare champs work.....in synergy :))))

Unfortunately,  this game is completely broken and if RAID wants to remain in business, something has to be done.  If I have to make a sugestion, equip your managers with 6 star DEF artifacts, because they are about to receive a lot of kicks in the next period for all the mess they created. Or simply replace your legendary managers with regular managers, less expensive but more effective and competent. Who work ....in synergy.

The best parody about "you can buy everything, exept player skill"-gamers I've ever read.

I'm wondering if the current difficulty level is appropriate for the operation. Why not make a division for Platinum Tier?

There is a big difference between the top of Platinum and the players who are close to the Gold 4 tier, and a considerable number of players are flowing to Gold 4.

If the tier is low, the additional combat power gained in the arena tier will also be low, and new players will be more difficult to capture the dungeon than ever before.

Perhaps new players will move away.

That is the kicker for me, because they have tied stat bonuses into arena- when you drop multiple tiers you actually get worse in pve. So you are playing (and in many cases paying) to get worse.

If arena wasnt tied so closely to pve i would just ignore it...heck i do play tag team arena a bit, but dont stress over losing because losing does not trash my pve progress.

I never sunk proper cash into the game, i have spent 9.99 but- i have spent an awful lot of time the last month or so, and like you i feel like my overall progress is going backwards.

Same.  Just won 2 out of 15 matchups, nothing I can do.  Tried speed team, tried defense, got wrecked repeatedly.

I don't have nukers that can one shot a defensive team and to get the most damage my team is squishy and can't survive the counter attack.  My high katune in my best speed gear can't beat an arbitor off the line, and it seems like I'm the only one in the game without a gorogab (or a valkrie/rotos/seeker/doom preist/etc).  My strongest team pushes 100k power, and I haven't seen a matchup below 150k today.   Apparently I just have trash gear and trash champions, I've sunk quite a bit of $ into shards but RNG isn't on my side.

I have zero idea what to do.  My teams can't survive a nuke, and every elses team can survive my nukes. I went to youtube to check out all of the major content creators for tips, and every one that created a new account recently is screaming the same thing... they can't progress and the arena is broken.

When I get on here, I see floods of threads from frusterated new players and then see a bunch of players and the mod team that have been here since the beginning telling people the arena is fine and they're just doing it wrong, that they SHOULD be going up against 4 legendaries and all the meta OP comps apparently.  They keep recommending the standard speed nuker build but like I said, the def down/buffer/nuker/speed boost comp can't one shot any of these teams or survive once they take a turn.

There's other parts of the games I can still focus on (spiders and CB), but I feel like my progression was just stomped on and I actually regressed significantly.  For the first time since I started the arena, I'm no longer using all of my tokens every day because it's better to just let them expire than lose repeatedly.  It's probably the most demotivating thing a game could do.  I'm really struggling to find the will to keep playing... I really enjoyed it up until the last 2 weeks, but now I'm actively looking for something else to do instead.

So please, wise old players/mods, what's the answer for us?  Are we just trash and should quit anyways?

Hey brother you know you and I see eye to eye most times

I agree with you in part

Yes I too have been in Gold 4 for long time holding  my own (pick and choose  my fights)

i actually made Plat tier for a day with the team I still use (and have upgraded their artifacts and glyphs since) but never returned to Plat

I notice Gold 4 tougher for sure (less easy fights to pick). But am now middle Gold 4 where before was top tier 4

Not sure what happened but will say yes Classic arena is tougher. I am still in my tier 4 gold but can appreciate how this impact may of dropped  other players from their tiers