I suspect your account is going to run into similar problems with the majority of the strong meta champs due to being new but there are quite a few ways to deal with leo/turtles for older accounts, bombers being one of them. 

Bombs are probably the easiest way to wipe a turtle team, but you have to make sure Donnie doesn't clease before they detonate.

Personally, I use Emic to place unkillable on my guys, then Ramantu to strip buffs and block passives, but I realize most people don't have him

Leonardo is broken; he's one of those broken heroes who should be nerfed in a balanced game. Anyone who refuses to admit this clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a beta tester.

Why specifically the campaign against Leo?  

This isn't a campaign against Leo. I've only been playing for a few months and I see lots of broken champions. I don't have any of them, so this isn't a crusade against anyone in particular. They should all be nerfed because there are characters who can win an arena on their own. That's not possible; it's not balanced. Do I, a new player who has been playing for four months, have to tell you that Leonardo is broken as a character? There are 200 champions, and 60 of them are useless because Leonardo is there. You talk to me about meta champions... Why do you think a champion becomes meta? When it's broken, when it's much stronger than similar champions. Leonardo is a broken champion, and I don't understand why they give small buffs to champions that are objectively rubbish and no one uses, and they don't nerf these broken characters that unbalance an already completely unbalanced game and lead to even greater imbalance. since in order to get people to buy champions and spend more money, the future offer of champions will always have to increase. So why not balance these heroes that even my 85-year-old grandmother would understand are too strong compared to the others? I'm not talking about films or cartoons, but compared to 80% of the raid characters, Leonardo is broken.

Respectfully, I don't think you have enough of a grasp/time spent on Raid to make the majority of those assertions and judging which champs should be nerfed/buffed in PvP by using newer accounts/players as a measuring stick is a flawed equation. 

Strong champs are always going to seem much more oppressive to accounts who are undeveloped - whether it be on champs, gear or both. 

Leo simply doesn't win on his own at higher levels and is nowhere near the level you think he is, but he is a great champ. 

Lastly, he was attainable for free for older accounts, though it likely requires heavy resource management.

No, but in fact you have the experience to balance PvP and gameplay, and it really is very well balanced. 

Leonardo costed us a lot to get time and money wise. F2p not donating to the game have no room to complain. Imo

Btw only 4 months in here and those old school players smoke my leo 😆 

Well said, it cost you a lot to get Leonardo, so he must be broken, because without broken champions you can't play mimimimimi. If this is the general attitude, I understand why there are avalanches of posts on the forum complaining about balance. Someone who plays for free shouldn't complain, by the way, who told you I play for free? Even if I had Leonardo, I would want him to be balanced, like many other champions whose names I don't even know. The moderator told me that “respectfully” I haven't been playing long enough to understand anything, but have you who have been playing for many years noticed that there is a monstrous imbalance? Have you tried creating a character now and entering the live arena at level 40? Finding only people 30 to 40 levels above you and, despite losing every game, reaching gold and finding only 100? Have you tried these things? No, because I, who “respectfully should keep quiet” because I've only been playing for a short time, experience these things every day and am trying to report them on the forum so that a mode like the live arena, which only those with broken champions play, can be more balanced for everyone. I, who “respectfully should keep quiet” because I've only been playing for four months, do what every player should do, which is give negative feedback on a game when there are unbalanced or poorly designed mechanics, and your responses are objectively embarrassing. 

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you're entitled to your own opinions but lack of experience/time on account means you likely won't have answers to champs that are relatively easy to counter for older accounts and/or more experienced players. your builds just aren't going to be good early, on top of that. 

leo is quite strong but nowhere near oppressive. there's a sort of bell curve in the game where you will struggle to deal with strong champs/builds early due to lack of options, builds, etc. whereas it gets easier in the middle and at the other end you run into truly oppressive builds and teams.

This would be true if I had been playing in isolation with blinders on for four months and only looked at my account. The problem is that I have a clan, a Discord group of friends, and even at 11k, the characters who get banned for being broken are always the same ones: Leonardo, Nais, Embrys, Fabian, Armanz, Lady Kimi, Marius, etc., etc., etc. They are always the ones, and they are the first to be banned. The question is, can't they be nerfed? And when I say nerfed, I don't mean broken so that they are no longer playable, just regularised, balanced. If we don't start from this and say that everything is fine, there is already a big underlying mistake. This is followed by my discussion on live arenas, which are now a forgotten mode. People avoid them like the plague, and those who ask for advice on the forum seem like sore losers who complain.

I can take down Embrys with ease most the time because f2p people over time got him. My Nais like my Leo gets smoked against pros. Its not the champs its the player.

The only thing unbalanced are Live arena and cvc match ups imo. 

What is lacking for most is skill time and money. That's not a game issue thats a personal issue. If you had spent the time and money ig and had the gear the skill and the champs others have you' d not be upset about the strong champs you'd be haply putting others down ig as they do.

Some people ig have mad skills. Have had mikey gharol leo and lazareous get a whooping by what one would think were weak epics. 😆 The gear is key. Its not the champs its the gear plus setup and timing of the team. So I am learning. 

In my opinion, you're talking nonsense. You don't know me, you don't know what champions I have, you don't know what level I'm at or what rank I am, you don't know if I pay or not, and yet you continue to pontificate like Master Miyagi, as if we were old friends, but who knows you? I understand that you're afraid that someone will nerf a broken champion like Leonardo because you would stop abusing him, but I like balanced games, so I give negative feedback about Leonardo. Please leave the talk about “skill” aside, because in this game, the only skill is playing for a long time and finding lots of broken champions and lots of nice equipment with three rolls on the same stat. Then, when it comes to clicking on “battle”, you're good too.

Partly it's a matter of perspective:

Leo is devastating against early accounts, no argument there.

I'm an end game account. I won't claim to be entirely F2P, but after more than 4 years my total spending is about $200, and I've never bought a shard; just occasionly monthly gem packs and slayer forgepasses.

I consider turtles to be a free win, because I know how to beat them and I have the champs built to do it.

Quintus, Marius, Ramantu, Karnage, all "free" albeit difficult champs to get are strong counters. Ezio + Kroz, who was a fusion a couple months ago, can shred turtles

There were countless threads near identical to this calling for the nerf of UDK and monkey when they were released. It's cyclical: A champ is uber-meta until most people get used to countering them, and then there's a new meta.

The game is completely unbalanced between rubbish champions, strong champions and broken champions, and “players with years of experience” defend their broken champions, saying that they can be countered by other broken heroes. Everything comes full circle, everything is fine, then people rightly stop playing live arenas, which seem more like a joke than PvP content. I understand you when you say that if you don't have the skill, you have to bet everything on broken heroes that give you an advantage over those who don't have them, which is why live arenas don't have matchmaking, to give people like you the satisfaction of destroying others with shitty champions. That said, I'll leave it there because I understand how the situation will end, that Raid is a very balanced game, everything works well, everything is perfect. I won't even ask why, despite being so perfect in the live arena, low levels complain about only finding level 100s who destroy them in one turn, while above rank 15k, all my friends complain that anyone can one-shot anyone, so you can safely play on auto. This is called BALANCE.

My solution will be the one that all my friends have adopted and recommended to me. Get Quintus and never play live arenas again, because nobody plays them anyway and they're rubbish.

Balancing, however, means that Plarium should recover the shitty champions by buffing and improving them, focusing on strong heroes and nerfing broken heroes. Seeing the community defend their broken heroes just so they can abuse them makes me realise that there is no chance of having a balanced game.

Actually, you don't want to stop at Quintus; you very much want Horsey. THEN you stop.

I'm pretty outspoken about how awful live arena is, and yes, the matchmaking is absolutely beyond terrible.

Yes, there absolutely are broken champions. But there are also ways to counter them. And in some cases, that means putting in the time to get good gear with high stats, exactly the same way players who started earlier did. But it also means knowing which chamsp to pick to coutner them, and most of the time those champs are F2P, it just takes a lot of time and grinding to get them.

time really is a flat circle in Raid. 

Also nerfs are almost always the worst possible move. More buffs making more champs viable is the way to go. 

Unfortunately Raid does the latter very, very slowly. Could be used as a way to shake up metas more often but alas...

The sad fact of Raid in particular but the entire gaming industry in general is that profit comes almost entirely from powercreep. You don't get your customers to spend more money by improving things they already have.

That said, Raid could use a LOT of improvement in making the game more welcoming to new players who have years of catching up to do.