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15 трав. 2025, 15:3615.05.25
27.01.25
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Can you help me forming best teams with what I have?

I am starting getting bored and frustrated :D

The game offers really poor drop rates and clearly has a list of preferred trash-mob to drop as I keep dropping quite often always the same toons (which in most of the cases are TRASH).

luckily I am not spending any money on this game as it's worst like gambling since at least in that case you may earn something... here is just a waste...

in any case said that there is NO RANDOMICITY in the shards, it seems i am stuck with few viable toons.



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would someone help me focusing on the most important toons splitting them per each area?

arena, team arena, dragon, potions and something else?

it think I am gonna quit soon otherwise as it's getting quite frustrating/repetitive :(


thanks a lot for your time :D




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16 трав. 2025, 00:2416.05.25
25.06.20
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You have like, four threads asking the same question. And the answer is the same each time. You have a more than sufficient roster to farm Dragon 20, and that's literally all you should be doing for quite a while, collecting gear, and doing daily/advanced quests, building up your food, and waiting for opportune times to use shards.

Alice, Morag, Criodan, Geomancer, and Apoth if you need him, though eventually you should be able to just put Coldheart instead. That'll get you through Dragon, IG, and probably FK as well.

16 трав. 2025, 09:2016.05.25
08.10.17
1185

Geomancer  is you PVE  Boss Killer

Apothecary   and Coldheart  will be great in most content

Alice  will help content progression

I am sure  others  on this forum will have  more detailed advice for you, but thats  what I see

16 трав. 2025, 09:2716.05.25
27.01.25
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kramaswamy.kr

You have like, four threads asking the same question. And the answer is the same each time. You have a more than sufficient roster to farm Dragon 20, and that's literally all you should be doing for quite a while, collecting gear, and doing daily/advanced quests, building up your food, and waiting for opportune times to use shards.

Alice, Morag, Criodan, Geomancer, and Apoth if you need him, though eventually you should be able to just put Coldheart instead. That'll get you through Dragon, IG, and probably FK as well.

i keep asking as with this toons i keep failing everything :( 

dragon stuck at 15...

Alice 60, Morag 60, Criodan 60, Geomancer 50, and Apoth 60 :(

ALICE:

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MORAG:


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CRIODAN:

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APOT:

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GEO:

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COLDHEART 50:

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ty :)


16 трав. 2025, 10:0816.05.25
16.12.21
2044

The problem there is that most of those stats, especially speeds, are pretty low.


I strongly recommend you use HH's champ optimizer and regear them.

Porbably wait until there's a free gear removal event or you have a token for it

16 трав. 2025, 10:2016.05.25
16 трав. 2025, 10:29(відредаговано)
27.01.25
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MooredRat

The problem there is that most of those stats, especially speeds, are pretty low.


I strongly recommend you use HH's champ optimizer and regear them.

Porbably wait until there's a free gear removal event or you have a token for it

oook tyvm :) but...

1) i don't have gear with higher stats... 

2) alice was quite close to an hellhades (or auymilove i dnot rememeber) video stats...

3) I don't wanna pay for an external tool for a game I am not paying itself :P  uuh  just discovered it's now free?!!? :D  so now I should prolly find a solution for issue 3.1... :D where to look for AIMED or suggested stats, without the need to have definitive gear for everyone :D

3.1) I cannot find a proper guide about correct stats as every guide is end-game with impossible gears and cannot find some place with good suggestions :( without top tier items only :(

16 трав. 2025, 11:3816.05.25
16.12.21
2044

The HH optimizer only requires creating a free account

There are premium features which require a subscription, but they become accessible for free when there's a free gear removal event going on in game

It's super useful and I can;t recommend it enough. If there was a nobel prize for contributions to gaming, this would win.


Getting gear with better stats is a matter of pure rng grinding. You'll get there eventually. A good palce to start though is recognize how *VITAL* speed is. With only a handful of exceptions, every champ you have should be wearing boots with speed as the main stat

16 трав. 2025, 12:0116.05.25
16.11.20
1222

go farm stage x-6 brutal campaign for 5/6* speed boots. All of your champions have almost no speed.

16 трав. 2025, 22:4016.05.25
25.06.20
7022

Bottom line - EVERYONE is far too slow.

You need to start using better gear. I don't know what you're using, but those speeds are incredibly low. Everyone should be around 180 speed, and your speed boosters like Apoth should be closer to like 230.

17 трав. 2025, 06:4917.05.25
27.01.25
38

Ok getting closer ti refine questions.

forst of all ty again for your replies! ❤️

1) at this stage shall i focus more on SPEED rather than other stats no matter the rest, to raise at around 180?

2) apothecary: better raise speed and tanky stats or better already in relentless even woth lower stats

3) HH optimizer seems great, used for a cuple of hours and showed some improvements: better focus on the stats upgrades rather than sets (as per past post somebody already said) 

4) what's about RES or ACC though? Shall I aim to something better right in this phase or with SPD I can cope for the Dragon?

5) can SPD be enough to solve many other frustrations?? arena, team arena, tower o clan bosses?


ty vm! 

18 трав. 2025, 00:2718.05.25
25.06.20
7022

Speed will solve most problems. But it won't solve all of them. As you noted, you do need accuracy for your debuffers. RES you can mostly ignore, for now.

General rule of thumb - better to not take damage, than to try to absorb it. That happens early on by just killing things fast, but later tends to involve crowd control. That's why Criodan is so useful.

18 трав. 2025, 07:1818.05.25
14.09.20
1020

If you are searching for guidelines, there are lots of older videos on youtube describing how to start a fresh account. Most of the OG CCs have one...they might be some years old but stil kind of valid

19 трав. 2025, 13:5019.05.25
27.01.25
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kramaswamy.kr

Speed will solve most problems. But it won't solve all of them. As you noted, you do need accuracy for your debuffers. RES you can mostly ignore, for now.

General rule of thumb - better to not take damage, than to try to absorb it. That happens early on by just killing things fast, but later tends to involve crowd control. That's why Criodan is so useful.

ty, I am trying to speed tune my toons.

didn't get what's you opinion about apot though...

would you go fast and tanky or with a relentless set no matter the specific stats?

19 трав. 2025, 14:2719.05.25
19 трав. 2025, 16:03(відредаговано)
27.01.25
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this is, btw, the actual state of the art of the first toons I have worked on, apart for apot which is waiting for you suggestions..


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and this is morag:

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19 трав. 2025, 15:2819.05.25
08.07.19
1072
matteo maria ambrogi

ty, I am trying to speed tune my toons.

didn't get what's you opinion about apot though...

would you go fast and tanky or with a relentless set no matter the specific stats?

definitely fast and tanky. you really want apothecary as the fastest champ on your team to get the most out of him.

19 трав. 2025, 21:3019.05.25
25.06.20
7022

Those are much better stats than the ones you originally had!

Everything could be higher, of course. Apo needs to be much faster, and you could probably afford to lose accuracy on everyone in exchange for other stats - you can go as low as 190 and still be fine, though for Criodan specifically, you probably want to stay closer to like 210. And, ultimately, you'll want to drop Morag - she's not very good. Coldheart will do more for the team.

But you're on the right track 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
19 трав. 2025, 22:1819.05.25
24.06.19
3544
kramaswamy.kr

Those are much better stats than the ones you originally had!

Everything could be higher, of course. Apo needs to be much faster, and you could probably afford to lose accuracy on everyone in exchange for other stats - you can go as low as 190 and still be fine, though for Criodan specifically, you probably want to stay closer to like 210. And, ultimately, you'll want to drop Morag - she's not very good. Coldheart will do more for the team.

But you're on the right track 

Right track is the most important too.  Everyone's builds could always be better, most important thing to make sure they're correct.

20 трав. 2025, 08:5120.05.25
27.01.25
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kramaswamy.kr

Those are much better stats than the ones you originally had!

Everything could be higher, of course. Apo needs to be much faster, and you could probably afford to lose accuracy on everyone in exchange for other stats - you can go as low as 190 and still be fine, though for Criodan specifically, you probably want to stay closer to like 210. And, ultimately, you'll want to drop Morag - she's not very good. Coldheart will do more for the team.

But you're on the right track 

ty vm :)


at the moment coldheart dies quite fast and I am focusing on lvling up geomancer to 60, that's why I am still keeping focus on Morag...

22 трав. 2025, 10:4622.05.25
27.01.25
38

folks ty vm as now with higher SPD values and replacing morag with coldheart I am starting noticing the differences either in campaigns & potions & arena! 


but since your appetite grows as you eat... i was wondering what do you think about the apot in POISON set + retaliation....

better POISON or RELENTLESS?

ShortOnSkillzModerator
22 трав. 2025, 14:5522.05.25
24.06.19
3544
matteo maria ambrogi

folks ty vm as now with higher SPD values and replacing morag with coldheart I am starting noticing the differences either in campaigns & potions & arena! 


but since your appetite grows as you eat... i was wondering what do you think about the apot in POISON set + retaliation....

better POISON or RELENTLESS?

Whats the difference in the builds look like?  Generally you just are gonna want as fast as you can on him.  If you can do that in either set its great but Id suspect you'll still want to lean more heavily into sets that provide speed bonuses. 

22 трав. 2025, 15:1022.05.25
25.06.20
7022

Speed. Repeat after me. SPEED.