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May 15, 2025, 15:3605/15/25
01/27/25
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Can you help me forming best teams with what I have?

I am starting getting bored and frustrated :D

The game offers really poor drop rates and clearly has a list of preferred trash-mob to drop as I keep dropping quite often always the same toons (which in most of the cases are TRASH).

luckily I am not spending any money on this game as it's worst like gambling since at least in that case you may earn something... here is just a waste...

in any case said that there is NO RANDOMICITY in the shards, it seems i am stuck with few viable toons.



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would someone help me focusing on the most important toons splitting them per each area?

arena, team arena, dragon, potions and something else?

it think I am gonna quit soon otherwise as it's getting quite frustrating/repetitive :(


thanks a lot for your time :D




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May 16, 2025, 09:2005/16/25
10/08/17
1202

Geomancer  is you PVE  Boss Killer

Apothecary   and Coldheart  will be great in most content

Alice  will help content progression

I am sure  others  on this forum will have  more detailed advice for you, but thats  what I see

May 16, 2025, 09:2705/16/25
01/27/25
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kramaswamy.kr

You have like, four threads asking the same question. And the answer is the same each time. You have a more than sufficient roster to farm Dragon 20, and that's literally all you should be doing for quite a while, collecting gear, and doing daily/advanced quests, building up your food, and waiting for opportune times to use shards.

Alice, Morag, Criodan, Geomancer, and Apoth if you need him, though eventually you should be able to just put Coldheart instead. That'll get you through Dragon, IG, and probably FK as well.

i keep asking as with this toons i keep failing everything :( 

dragon stuck at 15...

Alice 60, Morag 60, Criodan 60, Geomancer 50, and Apoth 60 :(

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COLDHEART 50:

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ty :)


May 16, 2025, 10:0805/16/25
12/16/21
2120

The problem there is that most of those stats, especially speeds, are pretty low.


I strongly recommend you use HH's champ optimizer and regear them.

Porbably wait until there's a free gear removal event or you have a token for it

May 16, 2025, 10:2005/16/25
May 16, 2025, 10:29(edited)
01/27/25
47
MooredRat

The problem there is that most of those stats, especially speeds, are pretty low.


I strongly recommend you use HH's champ optimizer and regear them.

Porbably wait until there's a free gear removal event or you have a token for it

oook tyvm :) but...

1) i don't have gear with higher stats... 

2) alice was quite close to an hellhades (or auymilove i dnot rememeber) video stats...

3) I don't wanna pay for an external tool for a game I am not paying itself :P  uuh  just discovered it's now free?!!? :D  so now I should prolly find a solution for issue 3.1... :D where to look for AIMED or suggested stats, without the need to have definitive gear for everyone :D

3.1) I cannot find a proper guide about correct stats as every guide is end-game with impossible gears and cannot find some place with good suggestions :( without top tier items only :(

May 16, 2025, 11:3805/16/25
12/16/21
2120

The HH optimizer only requires creating a free account

There are premium features which require a subscription, but they become accessible for free when there's a free gear removal event going on in game

It's super useful and I can;t recommend it enough. If there was a nobel prize for contributions to gaming, this would win.


Getting gear with better stats is a matter of pure rng grinding. You'll get there eventually. A good palce to start though is recognize how *VITAL* speed is. With only a handful of exceptions, every champ you have should be wearing boots with speed as the main stat

May 16, 2025, 12:0105/16/25
11/16/20
1226

go farm stage x-6 brutal campaign for 5/6* speed boots. All of your champions have almost no speed.

May 16, 2025, 22:4005/16/25
06/25/20
7032

Bottom line - EVERYONE is far too slow.

You need to start using better gear. I don't know what you're using, but those speeds are incredibly low. Everyone should be around 180 speed, and your speed boosters like Apoth should be closer to like 230.

May 18, 2025, 00:2705/18/25
06/25/20
7032

Speed will solve most problems. But it won't solve all of them. As you noted, you do need accuracy for your debuffers. RES you can mostly ignore, for now.

General rule of thumb - better to not take damage, than to try to absorb it. That happens early on by just killing things fast, but later tends to involve crowd control. That's why Criodan is so useful.

May 18, 2025, 07:1805/18/25
09/14/20
1020

If you are searching for guidelines, there are lots of older videos on youtube describing how to start a fresh account. Most of the OG CCs have one...they might be some years old but stil kind of valid

May 19, 2025, 15:2805/19/25
07/08/19
1087
matteo maria ambrogi

ty, I am trying to speed tune my toons.

didn't get what's you opinion about apot though...

would you go fast and tanky or with a relentless set no matter the specific stats?

definitely fast and tanky. you really want apothecary as the fastest champ on your team to get the most out of him.

May 20, 2025, 08:5105/20/25
01/27/25
47
kramaswamy.kr

Those are much better stats than the ones you originally had!

Everything could be higher, of course. Apo needs to be much faster, and you could probably afford to lose accuracy on everyone in exchange for other stats - you can go as low as 190 and still be fine, though for Criodan specifically, you probably want to stay closer to like 210. And, ultimately, you'll want to drop Morag - she's not very good. Coldheart will do more for the team.

But you're on the right track 

ty vm :)


at the moment coldheart dies quite fast and I am focusing on lvling up geomancer to 60, that's why I am still keeping focus on Morag...

May 22, 2025, 10:4605/22/25
01/27/25
47

folks ty vm as now with higher SPD values and replacing morag with coldheart I am starting noticing the differences either in campaigns & potions & arena! 


but since your appetite grows as you eat... i was wondering what do you think about the apot in POISON set + retaliation....

better POISON or RELENTLESS?

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May 22, 2025, 14:5505/22/25
06/24/19
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matteo maria ambrogi

folks ty vm as now with higher SPD values and replacing morag with coldheart I am starting noticing the differences either in campaigns & potions & arena! 


but since your appetite grows as you eat... i was wondering what do you think about the apot in POISON set + retaliation....

better POISON or RELENTLESS?

Whats the difference in the builds look like?  Generally you just are gonna want as fast as you can on him.  If you can do that in either set its great but Id suspect you'll still want to lean more heavily into sets that provide speed bonuses. 

May 22, 2025, 15:1005/22/25
06/25/20
7032

Speed. Repeat after me. SPEED.

May 23, 2025, 12:4605/23/25
01/27/25
47

ahahahahhahhah

this is the best I could achieve w/ actual gear...

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but with this config I can poison folks...

May 23, 2025, 22:3605/23/25
06/25/20
7032

And what's the best you can get without using a toxic set? Because I find it hard to believe that your best items just happen to also be from that set.

May 26, 2025, 13:1205/26/25
01/27/25
47
kramaswamy.kr

And what's the best you can get without using a toxic set? Because I find it hard to believe that your best items just happen to also be from that set.

ahaha yes. still cannot go higher than some stats. consider that the below screenshot is fake as if i equip, i.e. the firt suggestion, SPD is actually lower...



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May 26, 2025, 13:3805/26/25
06/25/20
7032

Something doesn't add up. If your best stats were using the toxic set, that would be what it suggests you use. Are you sure you've got your options set up properly?

May 26, 2025, 14:0805/26/25
12/16/21
2120

I'm almost positive you have the optimizer set to "max primary stats," but your boots are only level 8. It's showing what the speed *would* be if they were level 16

May 26, 2025, 15:4405/26/25
01/27/25
47
MooredRat

I'm almost positive you have the optimizer set to "max primary stats," but your boots are only level 8. It's showing what the speed *would* be if they were level 16

first toggle shall be turned off?


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ANYWAYS...

with this team.. i cannot beat dragon 20 :(

could have reached that far without your support, but i cannot beat him :(

i can reach him w/o any damage, but then he wins @ 30% HP left.


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