This might explain why better teams leave the battle and give my bad team an easy win.  

There is a ton of throwing fights in LA.  I do it every night and have for months now.  I'll take my 3-7 to get my energy and quest done.  Also gives me enough wins per month to get the primals.

I've been doing that the last couple days, and the results of my experiment are disturbing:

Had a live token refill from sin city that was about to expire, couldn;t be arsed to put in the effort, so I quit 5 times and gave away freebie wins

The next day, I got super easy matchups, guys who have just barely hit gold 3, points 4800-4825 compared to my 5400ish

Got 5 easy wins in a row, then quit for the next 5 fights

Did it again the next day, same results, did it again today. same results.

Even though it's advantagious for me, this matchmaking manipulation SHOULD be considered a serious problem and addressed.

I've been doing that the last couple days, and the results of my experiment are disturbing:

Had a live token refill from sin city that was about to expire, couldn;t be arsed to put in the effort, so I quit 5 times and gave away freebie wins

The next day, I got super easy matchups, guys who have just barely hit gold 3, points 4800-4825 compared to my 5400ish

Got 5 easy wins in a row, then quit for the next 5 fights

Did it again the next day, same results, did it again today. same results.

Even though it's advantagious for me, this matchmaking manipulation SHOULD be considered a serious problem and addressed.

This thread was not intended to be another thread for complaining about Live Arena. Instead, it was intended as a PSA to those who come to the forum specifically to complain about the Live Arena Daily Quest on how to just get it done and get back to the rest of the game.

Strong disagree on this being a priority fix? A serious problem?  

Do you want more complaining? 

I think short is correct that WR recency is somehow included for matching within tier. I'm not sure how this is even remotely bad? 

Reducing time to pick/act is only change needed imo.

Still ZERO screenshots on here or reddit or anywhere where someone has shown a 10 battle day that demonstrates anything wrong with matchmaking.  

Strong disagree on this being a priority fix? A serious problem?  

Do you want more complaining? 

I think short is correct that WR recency is somehow included for matching within tier. I'm not sure how this is even remotely bad? 

Reducing time to pick/act is only change needed imo.

Still ZERO screenshots on here or reddit or anywhere where someone has shown a 10 battle day that demonstrates anything wrong with matchmaking.  

It's really telling this fight was the most fun fight I've had in LA in months. 

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I have a feeling SoS spent a lot of time running WSG as a fully decked out lvl 19 lol

Oh god right in the nostalgia.  Jokes in you though, I did it at level 17.

While I 100% agree with the "Reducing time to pick/act" is definitely needed, a couple things:

MR said it was a "Serious Problem" but nowhere wrote it was a "Priority fix" so I think the interpritation here was a bit off. Also I wouldn't say the ONLY change needed is the time-reduction.

That being said, I will also agree with your sentiment that I'm not feeling this as some sort of issue BUT I'm not in Gold. 

What I'm trying to understand is why this is a problem overall? Is it preventing people in Gold from getting to Platinum since you can throw matches very quick and then win a bunch quickly with a total net gain of points?

Or is it screwing up matchmaking so that players with weaker teams are forced to fight stronger teams constantly?

My main concern is the unfairness for people who JUST got into gold 4 immediately getting outmatched and dropping back into gold 3. I remember how frustrating it was when it happened to me.

I consider it a problem in *any* situation where a player/clan can manipulate the matchmaking to consistantly gain a significant advantage over anyone who isn't ALSO exploiting a design flaw.

Same goes for cvc, clash, siege, etc

You dont like the feature where your 1st fight is against someone 10000 MMR above you?

My main concern is the unfairness for people who JUST got into gold 4 immediately getting outmatched and dropping back into gold 3. I remember how frustrating it was when it happened to me.

I consider it a problem in *any* situation where a player/clan can manipulate the matchmaking to consistantly gain a significant advantage over anyone who isn't ALSO exploiting a design flaw.

Same goes for cvc, clash, siege, etc

Apologies for interpretation and overstating it was a "priority fix".  But a serious problem would be a priority  ;)

I don't think comparisons to siege or cvc tanking are valid at all.  

And I honestly don't see a problem with essentially matching winners with winners, losers with losers within tier? Honestly if this was applied to siege it would significantly mitigate the problems.  

If all win rates (outside of extreme outliers at the tails) are converging (pushed) towards 50% as N increases isn't that "fair"?

Last point.  Why do you all pick 4 rares instead of quitting immediately on selection screen?

What about complaining about the complaining?  :)

I'm not sure if I believe anyone that says they went 0 for 10 tbh.  

While I 100% agree with the "Reducing time to pick/act" is definitely needed, a couple things:

MR said it was a "Serious Problem" but nowhere wrote it was a "Priority fix" so I think the interpritation here was a bit off. Also I wouldn't say the ONLY change needed is the time-reduction.

That being said, I will also agree with your sentiment that I'm not feeling this as some sort of issue BUT I'm not in Gold. 

What I'm trying to understand is why this is a problem overall? Is it preventing people in Gold from getting to Platinum since you can throw matches very quick and then win a bunch quickly with a total net gain of points?

Or is it screwing up matchmaking so that players with weaker teams are forced to fight stronger teams constantly?