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Low to Mid Champions who are suddenly valuable for Chimera Trials

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5 січ. 2025, 01:5805.01.25
5 січ. 2025, 02:01(відредаговано)
01.07.22
703
ShortOnSkillz

What were they using?  I think it's basically impossible to get more than 1 or 2 on Ram without Alaz.

Ram you can get 3-4 on but I have no clue how to do the "Deplete Duel Bar" one without taking heavy losses.

I believe Ninja can do Trial 3 Easy since he brings Dec Def and Veil on himself, plus combined with Lydia you've got Trial 1 Easy and Trial 1 Normal set. Trial 2 Easy is a bit of a gatekeeper tho, since it requires Inc Acc and to get that in you need to be REALLY careful who you bring.

Sadly I got Dark Kael and Supreme Kael confused but if anyone is lucky enough to have Supreme Kael then you are really set for the Inc Acc, Dec Res, Weaken and Poison damage covered right there

5 січ. 2025, 10:1605.01.25
15.01.21
1235
kramaswamy.kr

The logic the article used is that the rewards from the chests you get for points is far more than those you get from the trials. So,  if you're giving up a lot of damage just to do the trials, you're not getting enough compensation to justify it.

Fair enough, I can still get the top chests while focusing on trials however.

I am in a similar position to mooredrat, I can clear top chest NM easily but we only have 3 or 4 players able to hit NM and get decent scores so we aren't close to downing it yet.. 

 I am going to build gwyndoline and try her for sure however.

dthorne04Moderator
5 січ. 2025, 18:4405.01.25
30.12.20
6739
Onikage55

Reaaaaaally wish I had focused more on getting that horse earlier :(

no better time to get after it than now. :)

harleQuinnModerator
5 січ. 2025, 21:5005.01.25
24.02.19
8069
dthorne04

Fair enough. This rotation will be a bit interesting with the anti Gnut/Nekmo affinity, still going to try to run those two with Elva/Horse/Lydia and see what happens.

The only issue is that without running something like Toxic, I think it caps out at ~7-8 trials on UNM, something like 11 on NM. 

The new weak affinities really does affect us being able to knock out trials the same way we did last week.

harleQuinnModerator
5 січ. 2025, 21:5105.01.25
24.02.19
8069
Onikage55

Reaaaaaally wish I had focused more on getting that horse earlier :(

The best time to get him was 6 months ago.

The second best time is right now. :D

6 січ. 2025, 03:4006.01.25
6 січ. 2025, 03:41(відредаговано)
31.01.20
1285
Onikage55

Reaaaaaally wish I had focused more on getting that horse earlier :(

Same, with hindsight being 20/20 and all.

I have been on the slow train to Marius all along, but definitely wish I had been pushing a bit faster after the Hydra changes messed up my teams.  Chimera just amplifies that.  

On the positive side, I just cleared the 80 immortal essence mission tonight, so I am now in the home stretch, and should be able to finish in time to pull Marius for CVC next week.

@MooredRat It took me 25 days to collect the 80.  How does that compare?

6 січ. 2025, 04:5406.01.25
16.12.21
1610

Depends, were you running 12 keys every day?

Dug back through old discord logs: took me 11 days to do the get 40 mission, thats when i had my crazy run of nothing but grey coins, and then I did the get 80 one in 14 days. That's doing 12 keys every day

6 січ. 2025, 07:4406.01.25
31.01.20
1285
MooredRat

Depends, were you running 12 keys every day?

Dug back through old discord logs: took me 11 days to do the get 40 mission, thats when i had my crazy run of nothing but grey coins, and then I did the get 80 one in 14 days. That's doing 12 keys every day

No.  I did not burn gems for extra keys on any day but Sunday.

IIRC, the 40 took me 8-9 days .  

6 січ. 2025, 07:5306.01.25
31.01.20
1285

As to the original post topic, I am building Vlad to see what I can get out of him. He brings Dec Def, Leech, Block Skill, Perfect Veil....and he is Void.

Seems like he might be good to do some trials, especially if I can get good damage out of him. 

I have had Vlad since his Fragment Event in 2021, but he wasn't particularly interesting until he got a buff in 2023, but by then, I didn't need him anywhere, so he has just sat in the Vault all this time.

Time to dust him off.  

8 січ. 2025, 05:0608.01.25
25.06.20
6925
Onikage55

The mats you get from certain trials can really worth it since you can specifically get Mythic and Legendary Mats as well as other rewards. As one example:

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Luckily those trials there can all be done with Lydia and any hp burner, just for the Hard Trial don't use her A3


As long as you're doing enough damage for Top Chest, you can afford to lose points/damage to do Trials on the back-half of the run. There's NO Relics from Victory Clash Chests. Not saying that makes them bad, the gems you get are awesome especially at higher tiers. 

Lydia and Nekmo are both great and I'd say to keep using them. Nekmo's Dec Atk is a lifesaver especially on NM/UNM difficulties. 

One secret about Gnut: It's actually possible to use his A3 on Ram Form and not die. The key is NOT to have Dec Def or Weaken out but have Leech. My Gnut has 310% Crit Dmg and didn't die. Either the Coding or Healthbars are strange for his A3 because on the first hit, he loses a lot of health but on the 2nd and 3rd hit his healthbar never goes down. 

fwiw to your last point - on this affinity since Gnut lands weak hits sometimes, it's pretty clear to see that he will occasionally die on the 2nd or 3rd hit. The reason it seems like he doesn't lose health on the 2nd or 3rd hit in your situation, is because he just isn't actually dying to the hit, and his A3 heals him back to full on every hit it lands. When there's no DEF down/Weaken, his attack isn't quite hitting hard enough to actually kill him, so you see the 2nd and 3rd hits. With those debuffs, he just dies on the first hit instead.

8 січ. 2025, 05:2008.01.25
16.12.21
1610
kramaswamy.kr

fwiw to your last point - on this affinity since Gnut lands weak hits sometimes, it's pretty clear to see that he will occasionally die on the 2nd or 3rd hit. The reason it seems like he doesn't lose health on the 2nd or 3rd hit in your situation, is because he just isn't actually dying to the hit, and his A3 heals him back to full on every hit it lands. When there's no DEF down/Weaken, his attack isn't quite hitting hard enough to actually kill him, so you see the 2nd and 3rd hits. With those debuffs, he just dies on the first hit instead.

It's order of operations:

Deals damage, heals, takes reflected damage, repeat 2x

8 січ. 2025, 06:5308.01.25
25.06.20
6925

No. The healing happens *after* the reflect. That's why it looks like he's either dying or taking no damage.

8 січ. 2025, 07:0408.01.25
16.12.21
1610

First hit happens, he heals but was probably already at or close to full health anyway, he takes damage,

Second hit happens, he heals up, then takes damage back to where he was after the first hit

Third hit happens, he heals up, then takes damage back to where he was after the first and second hits.

8 січ. 2025, 09:1308.01.25
01.07.22
703
kramaswamy.kr

fwiw to your last point - on this affinity since Gnut lands weak hits sometimes, it's pretty clear to see that he will occasionally die on the 2nd or 3rd hit. The reason it seems like he doesn't lose health on the 2nd or 3rd hit in your situation, is because he just isn't actually dying to the hit, and his A3 heals him back to full on every hit it lands. When there's no DEF down/Weaken, his attack isn't quite hitting hard enough to actually kill him, so you see the 2nd and 3rd hits. With those debuffs, he just dies on the first hit instead.

No duh? That's the exact point I was making, not sure why you're spelling it out like I'm a new player. Obviously he's doing less damage without those debuffs... so less is reflected...  

Also obviously he's not dying on the first hit if he's making 2nd or 3rd hits...

I said the HEALTHBAR was what looked visually strange, because it's going down and then back up only on the first hit, it never moves on the other two. Just pointing out a VISUAL thing, has nothing to do with the mechanics. I was just throwing in a tidbit for someone else. You seem to look for any opportunity to "correct" others and act like you know more. Not sure what that is about. 

I'm gonna assume Moored is right on this, based on previous track records of knowledge.

23 січ. 2025, 13:0923.01.25
30 січ. 2025, 07:15(відредаговано)
23.01.25
3

Hello, everyone. I'm a newbie. Both on the forum and in the game.

Well, almost. When she came out on android a little, but abandoned. I was thinking of coming back, but I probably won't understand anything. Should I start playing from the beginning? Or is it not worth it at all ?)

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24 січ. 2025, 04:1924.01.25
01.07.22
703
MooreV

Hello, everyone. I'm a newbie. Both on the forum and in the game.

Well, almost. When she came out on android a little, but abandoned. I was thinking of coming back, but I probably won't understand anything. Should I start playing from the beginning? Or is it not worth it at all ?)

By the way, to distract myself from such aquatic games, I now go to this platform https://neon54.info/  . It has a large selection and good service. I didn't think I would enjoy casinos before. But now I relieve my tension only there.

wrong thread to ask but, it depends on your roster. If you don't have any legendaries then come back now and get Alice + use a promo code for another legendary like Wukong. That's a strong start.

24 січ. 2025, 08:4924.01.25
23.01.25
3
Onikage55

wrong thread to ask but, it depends on your roster. If you don't have any legendaries then come back now and get Alice + use a promo code for another legendary like Wukong. That's a strong start.

I had a few legendary ones. If you have, is it worth continuing?

If I continue, will I be able to navigate?

24 січ. 2025, 20:1324.01.25
01.07.22
703
MooreV

I had a few legendary ones. If you have, is it worth continuing?

If I continue, will I be able to navigate?

I'd recommend creating a thread with screenshots of your roster and then we can give better advice

28 січ. 2025, 13:4328.01.25
16.12.21
1610

^slapping a couple of key-words in barely coherent sentences doesn't sound AI generated at all

dthorne04Moderator
29 січ. 2025, 00:3929.01.25
30.12.20
6739
MooredRat

^slapping a couple of key-words in barely coherent sentences doesn't sound AI generated at all

😂