Can you share your stats on Wix and Brogni?  Who is in the shield set?  

I have Wix in the shield set and I wonder if that could impact the results?

This does not seem like changing champs.  It feels like something basic in the builds of Wix and Brogni.  Everything that I read or watch says that with Wix and Brogni its a no brainer team to build.  

I did. Look up a few posts.

I didnt see the names under the stat overlay.  

Brogni is 1st, Wixwell 2nd. Demytha is the one in the shield set.

Try Helicath on your team as your 5th. Pretty sure I remember you saying you had him. I think it'll make a huge difference. Just turn off his A2.

I am regearing Brogni to have stats matching what you have.  I can only get 65k HP.  

I can get any speed between 191-99.  Is his speed important?  

Nope. Neither are his stats. His shield growth doesn't scale on hp, it scales on damage done - and it won't grow the shield anywhere close to what wixwell does. I really think you're looking for answers in the wrong place. Did you try helicath?

I am being hard headed.  I think the problem is in the 2 main champs.  I will run a new team tonight and if it fails I will go to Helicath.  

I gave Brogni 100 CR and more ATK so he can scale more damage.  Fingers crossed.  

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Speed looks to be too low. You need him above 190 speed, or else your rotations will be messed up. When I said the speed didn't matter, I meant it didn't matter what speed above 190 you give him, provided it's not *too* much above 190, to the point where he starts going 4:3, but that generally only happens at like 220+ spd.

Wixwell 197, Brogni (to be decided), Anchorite (in shield set) 193, Malkith 196

I can add Geomancer or Helicath.  Which do you suggest?

EDIT: Helicath has the higher base defense so easier to build.  

I'd probably start with Helicath. Should be more consistent.

 Wixwell 197, Brogni (to be decided), Anchorite 193, Malkith 196, Helicath 193.  

What rotation should I use.  Wix for aura?

Anchorite is in the speed set.  Does he need special placement?  

Does Brogni need a special speed?

Voila. As for lead, Helicath has the better aura. Brogni's speed is quite irrelevant, though it's easier if he's slower than Wix.

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Success.  Thank you everyone for all your help.  

EDIT: @kramaswamy.kr @harleQuinn @ShortOnSkillz @dthorne04 

@Trips  pay off the under October

Grats :)

Do you think he could sub out helicath for geomancer ?

 free helicath spd to use in lets say IT or elsewhere at higher speed ?

I don't think I did too much but I'm certainly glad you've got it working. =)

I mean ... clearly he *can*, since that's the team I use lol.

Need more info :P he finally got it down .. if we mess with the team we gotta make sure it still works hehe!!!

He has 2 geo so poly can build the 2nd geo for the helicath spot with same speed and try it out ? Do you think it would work still ?

All I can say is - you can see my stats on the previous page, and my team works. The only difference between the one he is using and the one I am using, is I'm using Geomancer and he's using Helicath. Everything else is identical.

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I switched Geo for Helicath.  Now I can use Helicath with 3x Painkeeper for IT15.  

Thanks again every one.  

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