Ahoy All, 

Upgrade Etchings you got to be kidding us right!  A lot of us who have been playing a long time have built our fleets to sizes bigger than what the game allows. With knowledge of Prizes, Ruby packages or both, players have built huge fleets and have been complaining for months that something should be done to change the problem with negative rum production.

So now you have come up with an Idea that is simply way too expensive, To upgrade a Rum distillery from level 20 it now takes 180 upgrade etchings, you charge 1,750 rubies for 100  upgrade etchings. I assume you will make upgrade etchings as part of tournament rewards just like Idols are but here is the rub. New players will not need etchings only your faithful players will, which means the players who have stuck with you the longest are the ones you intend to gouge. 

I intend to issue a BH challenge of my own, The first member on any BH who is active to reach -150,000 in rum production send me a screen shot and I will send you 150,000 in resources of your choosing, since your crew does not leave should be fun to see.

Come on Plarium, stop taking the fun out of the game with the money grabs.  I know we be Pirates but shiver me timbers 

John Cabot

Blood Krewe

When I first saw this concept tested in another Plarium universe two months ago, everybody was excited- something to do with the carpenters (who have already cost us 6000 rubies) after everything is maxed out, better protection in the infirmary, greater storage levels... what a delight. Then the prices came out and it was exposed as nothing but fan service for the serious coiner. Understandably, Plarium needs to cater to those who pay the bills, but this is going to do nothing but create two classes of players- those who can seriously coin, and those who can't get to play along and be targets for those who do.

Perhaps it would have been better to debut this feature through adoption- give every level 20 discovery and building a dozen etchings, so that everybody who has made it to the "top" can play with super-levels as a game feature, rather than as the next imbalanced boost only available to a few.

That's not going to be a problem for us, now that we have a sea full of bots and endless amounts of resources

the etchers need to be set with a price, or the new updates will be completed way too fast,

What John says!! The ammount of rubbies is REDICOULES. For some of us aint that a problem, but for a few of my members it is.

The ratios are completly out of line and its getting worse by every update. Look at the ammount of rubbies you can win when 1st place and the costs of the ammount to repair and that is only one example. And now this again, paying a lot of rubies to upgrade........ no words for it.

Liz LB said:

What John says!! The ammount of rubbies is REDICOULES. For some of us aint that a problem, but for a few of my members it is.

The ratios are completly out of line and its getting worse by every update. Look at the ammount of rubbies you can win when 1st place and the costs of the ammount to repair and that is only one example. And now this again, paying a lot of rubies to upgrade........ no words for it.

This greed and the ammount of time that everything does take is chasing a lot of players away from the game and the ones that stay are getting more bored by the day. Way to go Plarium!

Thing is, if things  don't have a price then it's to easy to gain and move up to fast

reason why they have to be bought with rubies so they take time

you do not need to coin to get rubies, and doing the adventures will help get rubies

Hello Blasphemy,

I know but like I said the ratios are way out of line. Yes you can get rubbies, but if something is costing 10.000 rubbies (like the new upgrade thing) and you will only receive 3 rubbies an hour than you know what Im talking about. Or you win 1000 rubbies in an event but its costing you 60.000 rubbies to repair and get back what you lost.  Winning is losing in this game and that shouldnt be the case!

Fact is that if you want to come further in this game you need an enormous ammount of rubbies wich you cant get enough by playing without investing any or little money. On top of that the waitings to achieve something without investing rubbies are redicoules imho. 

Ahoy all,

This is the first time that I post anything here, but I have to express concerns of many players, including me, that this update will kill the game. It takes out all the fun and gives unreal advantage to few players willing to spend hundreds od dollars each month. Personally, I don't have a problem to spend some money on something that entertains me, and I've been buying few packages from time to time, but with new update that is just ridiculous. It takes thousands of dollars to do all upgrades. Great thing about this game was that you can be successful and compete with big coiners, they had advantage, but it was not crucial. It was about tactics and strategy, real gaming qualities. Now, all these things just don't stand no more. Let's take for instance Terible ten in raids, no way you could be in it if you don't upgrade your marketplace at least 2 new lvls. What to say about rum production, difference is huge, it's not few percent or a dozen, it's double!!! It goes on for all buildings you can upgrade above lvl 20.

If these etchings can be bought only for rubies, without option to win it in a tournament, and you keep current rates, this game will slowly die, and it's a shame. You had a good thing going, I'm sure it was generating nice income since majority of people I know are spending 10-20$ per month, but if you keep things as they are now, they'll stop because it just makes no sense to buy 5-10k rubies per month, because even if you spend all your rubies on etchings you can upgrade just few buildings each month. And where are some rubies to bring back some of your troops or to buy something else, like fireships, veteran crew, prestige... 

Hope you will think hard about this and change it soon.

Thank you

It's just another way for plarium to get more money out of us. I'm fine with my buildings all leveled up to 20 and just about done with all my discoveries up to 20. I mean I finished everything and didn't even get a well done, thank you bonus or anything and that's a huge feat in itself, why should I now spend money on rubies just to buy etchings. I'd rather just pay a few rubies to buy rum to take care of my negative rum consumption, or buy the 50% rum consumption. Seems everyday we get these stupid additions to the game, for a price and yes these extremes are going to cause many of us long timer's to quit the game. I've spent my last dollar on this game after I saw all these different prices on the same St. Patricks day prize in which they all contained the same amount of fleet. But some were 49.80, some were 39.90 and some were 19.80 for the same package. and I thought that was unfair now we have these etchings. So yea sorry, not interested. I'm already searching for a new game to play anyway and found one, and it costs you nothing. 

Greetings. Let me clarify this update for you.

First of all, all of you can check the bonuses of the new building levels to make sure that there is no huge advantage in having them. More resource production, more resource storage, up to 50% Offensive Units revived for free if they are killed defending your Haven, etc. 

These new levels are designed not only for paying players. All of you have possibility to collect free Rubies in Tournaments, Daily Crew Roster, placing in TOP 10, capturing Treasure Islands, etc. 

Each upgrade requires a lot of Etchings, but there's no need to rush and upgrade all buildings at once. You can continue playing and having fun just as you did before and collecting Rubies for this purpose. Of course, if you find it attractive for you and your current goals. 

I understand that right now you may be scared with the amount of Etchings needed, but nobody says that you need to upgrade all Buildings in one week or in one month. Maybe it will take a year or so, but it will be your achievement, your little victory.

By the way, it's not an obligation. If you prefer spending Rubies on something else, you can just skip this update and continue having fun. The game balance is not touched in this situation. Higher bonuses require some Resources and efforts, so we just added one more goal for you to aim.

I think the upgrade etchings are a rip off. My haven was fully upgraded - now its not?? I'm very disappointed! Lots of players have put a lot o time n effort into completing their havens & now they're not finished?. These etchings are way too expensive unless you are a money player & I'm not a money player. They aren't available as part of a reward for pvp's  either. This is a case of Plarium moving the goal posts & it's time I looked for an alternative game - these etchings are nothing more than a money grab.

You are really funny plarium..

You really think players will continue to play one year to put their rhum at level 24? knowing in waiting you will have some players who will get them in 2 days with their visa.. and change their off from more than 80 M to 400? ( and the 80M.. is not an invention.. I can give you the name)..

So.. You really think we will continue to play so they can have fun in destroying any defense we could put with our BH?

I'm not sure the BH can be deleted.. add this function.. and I think in 3 months.. you will have less than 5 BH..

And at this moment, even your last 15 visa players will stop...

You wanted to kill your game for free players.. well done.. you did it.. I will stop.. and I think 80/90% of our BH will do the same.

No offence, but why are we even making the effort to complain. I have been reading the forum for as long as I play the game. The complaints are numerous, but they dont do anything about it. The irritation factor grows by the day for making this game all about putting in more money. Dont get me wrong, I personally dont have any problem to spend money,but enough is enough and not all of my members and friends in here are able to do so. 

PLEASE do something about the loss/winning ratio's. Like I said in my former post: when you want to win in this game, you are losing and that shouldnt be the case. Also make this game more exiting, its ALWAYS the same thing, even the winnings (for instance, the choice of earning Frigates or Gunboats) are BORING!! Same old, same old.

Maybe your developers can take a look at the game Pirates of the Caribean. NOW THAT was an exiting game, always something new and as well coiners as players who dont want to put money in it had equal changes. No wonder that game had more than half a million players, this game will never get those numbers when you go on like this. You can think asking money for everything = great profit. Wrong thinking, make it more exiting, cheaper and more people will come to play this game and your earnings will exeed. You dont have to be a rocket scientist for that. You only have to look at the numerous abandoned islands to know that people are fed up playing this game and the thing you should do is to ask yourself, WHY? 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

First of all, all of you can check the bonuses of the new building levels to make sure that there is no huge advantage in having them.

What are you talking about? no huge advantage? I like the new info button for bonus-values, but... did you check them?

Wood/Gold production is a joke until lvl20. I stopped at 11 or so because it needs month to get back the investment. 20/h for a levelup, wow! Now you introduce even more paytowin and the level-progression suddenly start making sense... for a huge price.

Merchant-galeons are capped at 20, having 25 or 30 is a big advantage.

Doubling your safe resources in harbour is a big advantage... etc

Sure, we don't need the new levels now and we generally don't need them at all. But with this reasoning, I also don't need a fleet or this game at all.

Like Liz said, why do we complain... it's just a cash-cow and they don't care. Until now I didn't take the effort to complain but I had to say something, this time.

Nobody is saying you have to update these, and they aren't actually needed

 and even to someone that pays these do not come cheap to them,

they to have to be wise when thinking of buying the etchings, these were ''added"  only to those whom want to go out of their way and buy them, later on im sure they will be added to adventures and or quest to gain that way, but like everything plarium gives us, they first bring it to the game as an option to pay to get....

Blasphemy said:

Nobody is saying you have to update these, and they aren't actually needed

Are you serious? Nobody is saying you need troops, but it is great advantage to have them, am I right? This is just a rip off, but it's not well thought and players are already giving up. One needs to spend months and still not able to achieve what other can do in days, with few thousand dollars. Yes, we are talking about thousands, and that is the part that's not calculated and thought through. It just stopped making sense to spend 10-20-30$ per month, because you can do very little with that amount of rubies, and I'm pretty sure that players spending similar amounts were main source of income. This update is just so short sighted.