Russian brotherhoods

along with Rual, they move along as the Bots do, in a line/rows they got smarter and started naming them 

so they look real and added a BH

It isn't a surprise to me that CM is intentionally ignoring this thread while being active in rest of the forums.

I posted a huge comment about Rual/Destroyers under this thread, and it was removed, along with Fazi's. This is a BH that all accounts use to be under the Bh Destroyer, this was my original post....Now RuAl has come in and this is one guy, that's operating the entire BH, he's taken 1/2 of the Destroyers accounts and changed it to RuAl BH. We've had messages from him, I've had messages from him, threatening our BH, This was my original post about them. But it was removed from the forums...

I came across a BH named Destroyers, that are comprised of 4 main members, who all have at least 20 to 30 alts, all named the same but here are the coords of all of these members. To have that many havens with the same name just numbers from 1 to 50 added behind each name is a dead giveaway. THey also have a bastion that they have never done anything with. Here is the info to this BH and all the alts.

Destroyer BH and looks like over 100 havens with same BH names Armageddon , void -1490; -1844 to -1580; -1845 then -1594; -1844 and -1600; -1845

 and val_nik -1585; -1844 to-1589; -1845 these all go east to west.

These below go north to south.

armageddon -1845; -1149 to -1844; -1084 then one called test at -1844; -1084 and then val_nik from -1844; -1069 to -1844; -1024

then void again at -1844; -1020 to -1845; -974 then val_nik again at -1845; -969 then void again at -1845; -965 then armageddon again at -1845; -955 to -1845; -925

than val_nik at -1844; -919 to-1845; -905

There are many of my BH members who have come across these havens, and we're just shocked that so many alts are in this BH with the same names.

See now today this guy sent me a PM trying to extort money each month, to keep our Bastion safe and Presidio's along with a lot of the Bh's out there that got this same message...

[11:49] shiv : Hello,

I want ur BH to break peace shelf with GBR, otherwise u will become RuALs enemy

[16:12] shiv : We offer protection of ur Presidio(Bastion) from Rual Bh attacks 100$ a months each.

With Love Shiv :)

(send top-15 BH)

http://imgur.com/fztkTT6

Now if this isn't against rules, what is. But seems that everytime I post something about RuAl/Destroyers, my post are deleted, why is that?  and you can't submit tickets to support, there is no support to send to and when you can get one through, they close it without doing anything about it, researching it, or anything? So what good does it do for us to report to support???  Note that he sent this to the top 15 Bh's. So please don't remove my post. This is good info for others, since support doesn't even get tickets, or there isn't a link to post, or they just close it out. Tell me what else do we do???? It's almost as if someone is trying to hide this, and condones everything they do. Any support falls on deaf ears, but yet plarium takes our money that we spend on the game for proper game play but I guess extortion is excused by plarium. Just makes the rest of the BH's out there that feel the same way as I do reluctant to keep playing. This just isn't right. 

FaZi said:

It isn't a surprise to me that CM is intentionally ignoring this thread while being active in rest of the forums.

Why is that? Maybe because they know who is behind all this & they can't do anything about it at this stage.

Actually, it's not. They can only keep repeating "go to the Support", as one of them told me when I approached them directly over this issue.

That said, I completely agree that Plarium should start doing something about alts. I played a game where alts (and bots!) were persecuted without mercy. They were never exterminated, but they also weren't very influential in the game. To me, that proves that it can be done to a satisfactory level.

NightWolf said:

ok then this is the end for me in plarium world , im done with everything (and i wish if i can get my money back), i will give my account to someone and you wont see me anymore 

have fun with cheaters......

Sorry to hear that you spent money on this game and that you are calling it quits. Quite understandable though given Plarium's inaction (definitely seems that way) regarding this issue.

I am thinking about quitting as well as it definitely is not fun getting units beaten by cheaters. I don't mind getting beaten by coiners (they help pay for the game ) or by players who are really good at this game, but by cheaters? No thanks. 

The Prize Ransack has just started  and look at how many points the BH on the #1 spot have accumulated so far: 241.8K points! Are you kidding me???

Despite the tickets that have been submitted, there is still no official word from Plarium addressing this issue. Alleged cheating in the game through hacking or running a prize program is a very grave matter, and should be investigated immediately. 

ok then this is the end for me in plarium world , im done with everything (and i wish if i can get my money back), i will give my account to someone and you wont see me anymore 

NightWolf said:

this is not real life , this is a game and CHEATING if forbidden 

your comparison is wrong , if you like to compare real life with this , then it would be like you need to fight with a bare hands against a guy with a gun

where are admins and managers when we need them ? moderators thank you very much but you dont helping us here at all .....

because this isn't our line of duty, not what we are asked to do, nor the community managers here

Even they have rules they have to apply to, Plarium developers don't really roam in the forums 

And cheating is part of life as well, it's why this world is corrupted 

this is not real life , this is a game and CHEATING if forbidden 

your comparison is wrong , if you like to compare real life with this , then it would be like you need to fight with a bare hands against a guy with a gun

where are admins and managers when we need them ? moderators thank you very much but you dont helping us here at all .....

My reply still stands, many here say they will not go any further with it because support doesn't respond,

may i ask a question?? in real life, if something gets difficult do you give up because it's just not going your way?

or do you fight it out and keep trying until you get it right?

-Be polite 

-Show proof of your issue

-show screen shots

-Be patient 

-And don't give up

Linda McCarty said:
I reported an entire BH with descriptions. Now it's 2 different Bh's with these coordinates. It's funny that they jumped from level 34 to mid 70's in less than 10 days and filled their havens completely, one of my members was messaging one of the guys in the RuAl BH, inquiring about things and asked if he was an employee of plarium,and he said he was. He was running the whole BH himself. These are the accounts, it was all Destroyers BH, now their half and half but most have the same names. 

This is totally not fair and I personally wouldn't want to continue playing if this is really the case. If the guy is just lying, then I hope Plarium  has already started investigating. Don't wait to act until AFTER the paying players have already left. 

FaZi said:

Things that you are telling are possible only by three ways.

1-- He is plarium employee & have access to admin panel of game servers, where he could go & credit anyone with anything he wants (I highly "DOUBT" this)

2-- He is a billionare & doesn't care about spending money on a fake internet thing.

3-- He is a hacker/manipulator and stealing credit cards from black market (it is in deep web).

what ever is the reason , Plarium need to deal with that and STOP them !

Things that you are telling are possible only by three ways.

1-- He is plarium employee & have access to admin panel of game servers, where he could go & credit anyone with anything he wants (I highly "DOUBT" this)

2-- He is a billionare & doesn't care about spending money on a fake internet thing.

3-- He is a hacker/manipulator and stealing credit cards from black market (it is in deep web).

I reported an entire BH with descriptions. Now it's 2 different Bh's with these coordinates. It's funny that they jumped from level 34 to mid 70's in less than 10 days and filled their havens completely, one of my members was messaging one of the guys in the RuAl BH, inquiring about things and asked if he was an employee of plarium,and he said he was. He was running the whole BH himself. These are the accounts, it was all Destroyers BH, now their half and half but most have the same names. You can't turn them into support, there isn't anyway to turn anyone in. Just a bug report button, every other link refers you to the forums or a Q & A. or you can't get into your account. They have removed any other options to contact support. 

I came across a BH named Destroyers, that are comprised of 4 main members, who all have at least 20 to 30 alts, all named the same but here are the coords of all of these members. To have that many havens with the same name just numbers from 1 to 50 added behind each name is a dead giveaway. THey also have a bastion that they have never done anything with. Here is the info to this BH and all the alts.

Destroyer BH and looks like over 100 havens with same BH names Armageddon , void -1490; -1844 to -1580; -1845 then -1594; -1844 and -1600; -1845

 and val_nik -1585; -1844 to-1589; -1845 these all go east to west.

These below go north to south.

armageddon -1845; -1149 to -1844; -1084 then one called test at -1844; -1084 and then val_nik from -1844; -1069 to -1844; -1024

then void again at -1844; -1020 to -1845; -974 then val_nik again at -1845; -969 then void again at -1845; -965 then armageddon again at -1845; -955 to -1845; -925

than val_nik at -1844; -919 to-1845; -905

There are many of my BH members who have come across these havens, and we're just shocked that so many alts are in this BH with the same names.

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shiv said:

Может для начала играть научитесь , а уже после ныть будете? 

Вы принесли другой тип игры играть в более PTOF

Я электронных писем о том, как вы прокомментировали в использовании сценариев для атаки призы, но утверждают, что это не противоречит TOS

Мы не играем с помощью скриптов или вещи третьей стороной, и я верю, что что-то третья сторона с plarium против правил ...

Я согласен бот Cистемные требования действительно повредил игру, но так это то, что вы делаете,

Вы честно думаете, что ваша идея, написания сценариев до войск и делая их десятками, делая BH подделок это способ играть ????

НЕТ его ОБМАН

You brought a different type of game play over in PTOF 

I have emails stating you have commented in using scripts to attack prizes but claim it's not against the TOS

We do not play with scripts or third party stuff, and i do believe anything third party involved with plarium is against the rules...

I do agree the Bot sustem has really damaged the game, but so is what you are doing,

Do you honestly think your idea, of scripting up troops and making them in dozens, making a BH of fakes is the way to play????

NO its CHEATING 

NightWolf said:

Icy said:

I feel your blight about the alts however. like blas has stated multiple times. Contact support. As mods  WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO HANDLE THE ISSUE HERE.

Design of havens isn't proof of alts, All the players on the map know the bots are alts but we're all benefiting from them. Hell I moved from where I was on the map twice to find a better bot location for raiding. 

And those of you who think Blas is in a BH of Alts come hunt me down. I'll be happy to have my crew show you they're not alts. I'll even make it nice and easy my coords :  -300; -740 

If you're going to accuse someone of alts, make sure you have proof that without a doubt the person you're talking to isn't an alt or they have alts. Consider it like bringing a case to court. If there is a chance your statement has holes in it then you don't have enough evidence.

i have deleted my post just after i wrote it to avoid something like this , i insight that my comment can be misunderstood , all i wanted to know is why you people defending that much others who play with alts

yes you are mods and you have no ability to handle the issue , that is  clear 

my point is that no one helping us , everyone talking about support, and form support we don't get any help ...we are lost 

i am probably done with this game for obvious reasons....

@Night wolf, you have been great among the forums, i was just talking about you before all this to my team chat, 

I just don't have as much issue with alts as i do the bots taking over the map....

And yes they are against the rules of Plarium,, but like i have stated we can't do anything about it here,

This is a ticket to the support team kinda thing, 

Many of us do this daily, even the moderators to keep the game clean, But we also have to be strict, it doesn't look good when only plariums Volunteers/Moderators are doing the emails on bots and alts in the game, 

So us coming forward and being aggressive in telling you to keep up with the emails is our way with agreeing with you,

This is the only way you can get the problem fixed, show screen shots of the player and havens, anything you can to show proof that its an alt..

Bots are more simple to pin point out...were ALTS you have to do more work to prove they are what you say they are.

Believe me i do not agree with these alt accounts, it's just not simple to work around, and takes more then a few emails and players 

Lady Blas