Chesty said:

[...] you have admitted in here you use a code to do prizes, and that you buy and sell accounts!

If, by "in here", you mean this forum, I would appreciate a link to pass to the Support.

terry said:

Crowbar in answere to your post.i agree and understand about investigations being done in house and the need for pivacy.they (Plarium) must and do have the guys to fully understand how this works it does not take  rocket science to undersand the data of there own game. but they still let this foul play continue. i fully understand you as a mod do not get  a feedback on the information. but it has been going on for a very long time but the culprits are still doing the same thing over and over again. it is so frustrating for all that play the game. my final question is how long do they need to investigate this?years and years of abuse and bullying by one person.

I would assume that they did more than one investigation by now and - if the accounts in question are still active - that these showed no foul play. Whether Plarium is right or wrong in their conclusion, I won't judge, as I don't have access to the data. I can agree or not with you all, but that opinion remains just an opinion, and is worthless as such. Anyone with proofs (not opinions and not "it's obvious" remarks, but actual proofs) is very welcome to supply them to the Support or me.

I will let my CM know of this discussion, but don't expect too much of it, as I haven't seen anything on the subject that wasn't already said before.

using a script is not in the spirit of the game or fair play to all 

So I was called to this post by one of my players. After viewing what everyone has said I have decided to say this:

Shiv you are the last player on this entire game site that should have anything to say to other players about having multiple accounts. Everyone knows by now what you do and how you do it. The only players on our server that think what you do is cool are those who either follow you like weak sheeple and those who use the same account automator you do. You all sail on one big ship and enjoy ruining the game for thousands of players over the years. This makes you and your allies the worst kind of gamers there are. 

Everyone seen both your BH scores take flight in the Brawls. It is obvious you script and we even have Discord screenshots where you admit to running your many many many accounts using an automator. Too bad Plarium says Discord chat screenshots cannot be used as proof of anything, but surely they will investigate RuAL and EURU now. 

The server is learning to come together and fight as one against you and anyone who supports you. Your days are numbered and one day you will have to start all over and recreate a thousand accounts and we will be right here, waiting to report all new havens you spawn. Eventually Plarium will do something because I like to believe they don't want to have to trash the pirate bay server seeing how it's made them hundreds of thousands of dollars. But if the "light side" of the server abandons this game the dark side will have no one left to fight but themselves and that's where the game will get lame for you dark siders. 

Which of your allies will turn on you first? Which of your allies will you turn on first?  -if the rest of us leave this BS behind.

After a bubble bath and a glass of wine I decided I may as well chime in here - seeing how I was brought into it by shiv accusing others of being me. So. Here. I. Go....

Shiv - while I always found you (mostly) respectful in conversation, you telling me to shut up makes me want to do the exact opposite. I mean, you were actually talking to someone else, but you thought you were talking to me, so it's all the same....

You, sir, think yer so fricken awesome. Yer ego, if it were a tangible object, it wouldn't even fit inside the town in which you reside. Oh, how mighty you are!    "Look at me, I'm a cheater on a massive scale, I'm sooooo great and powerful. My name is shiv and I will destroy you with my Python Script because I'm not a good enough player to dominate the Pirate Bay server on my own..."  (Sorry, I couldn't get the right accent and rearranged English right...)

Whether Plarium finds shiv guilty or not, thousands of players over the years have clearly seen the guilt painted all over the scoreboard and in our battle reports. WE KNOW SHIV CHEATS ON A MASSIVE SCALE and we don't need Plariums confirmation. And no matter what RuAL and EURU scores are, the server will still turn on them and their allies. 

How about the 102 new accounts you created and put in RuAL, EURU, and Path of Daggers, located at the edge of the map, shiv? All accounts were created one right after the other! If I still cared about this game like I used to, I'd puke in disgust.

You want to take me on, shiv? I can guarantee you that once my Bastion falls, 1,000's of players will be sailing in on RuAL Association shores. I'm not like the rest where I will get knocked down, give up, and leave. I can rebuild fast, and stronger too, and I have so many friends in low places. You call me a slowpoke all you want, Mr.Over-CompensatingMan, I'm just waiting for a good reason to pull some rabbits from my hat! 

You have tolerated me for this long - I am one of the only players who will straight-up tell you how it is and what I really think of you. Why haven't you hit me yet? Because you weren't ready to. And what does yer Prize points say about you in RuAL and EURU?? That you are gearing up, but you should consider that many of us have been doing the same for the last 2 years! I'm not low on OFF! I've been building and saving for a long time. :) You poke me, I poke..... (insert mystery here).

Hear me now - No matter what you do, I will win. I might not win a first position in the game, I may not rock the Prizes like you, but no matter what you and your allies do, I can assure you, I will never "lose". I have back-up plans for my back-up plans. And even IF I were to leave this game because of the extreme corruption and unfair playing field that YOU (shiv) created, I can assure you that would be MY ultimate win, because real life trumps this virtual world, grade-A fecal matter, and leaving this game would mean more time for BETTER THINGS while you sit in yer underwear picking yer nose and running yer script every night! ::Laughing Like Hell::

Having said all that I close my reply with a little more relevance to this thread - To the light side of the server: Along with the prize points shiv made with his alts using Python Script, report his new havens and the havens created by some of his most important allies. Message me for coordinates if you can't find them. The more reports made, the more urgency Plarium will see in this matter, but don't expect results, make your own! 

Rise and resist, people.

This is not topic, this is cry and chat ARM and NSF (stop using alts for forum).

Plarium again. How to start programming due to game playing.

Small script for one of the plarium game

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/few-notes-about-google-games.html

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2017/04/plarium-again.html

Bebe said:

Plarium again. How to start programming due to game playing.

Small script for one of the plarium game

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/few-notes-about-google-games.html

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2017/04/plarium-again.html

Let me know when you manage to create a working script using either of these links. 

I saw the first one years ago, tried it for fun, and it was useless, as they admit in the comments.

The second one is just general, very obvious guidelines. It's a big leap from that to a working script.

None of that says that scripting is impossible. Given the nature of the game, scripting is and always will be possible. But these links are a joke.

Privateer said:

But simply lower the points gained, to bring Prize playing in line with points gained from other tasks.

Perhaps Plarium could take this into full consideration, and turn the Brawl into an all round fair Tournament .

When I raised the focus on prizes as nonsensical (as we already do have Prize tournaments), the responses I got gave me an impression that Plarium is well aware of this and happy with it.

You do not have to play them.

They do nothing for your brotherhood as such and the player gets a few free toys if they do not spend money.

The Brotherhoods in the top of the ranking work it between there selves and the whole thing is an excersize in procrastination.

Plarium  is still giving to much importance in lighthouse treasures.

Some BH are just doing that with "specialiized" accounts made just for this, it's kiling the Brawl interest

some make  hundreds of thousands of pointsjust with this  and if you  do all parts of game with fighting a bit too (everything except big treasures) to you made 10 000 points....

amazes me is the level of troops the game is pitting against players.

And it also exists outside of the Brawl.

There was a time attacking prizes was rewarding if you committed to the program.

Not any more.

It is one giant scam 

uijj555888 said:

Plarium is still giving to much importance in lighthouse treasures.

I both agree and disagree with you. Lemme explain.

Personally, I feel that the Brawl is not very different from BH Prize Ransack, because of the important of Prizes that you complain about. Like you, I feel that this could've been done better, i.e., more balanced. So, in terms of how I would like the Brawls to work, I agree with you.

However, when the Brawls first started, I complained to my CM about that, and they said that it is intentional and it won't be changed. So, I disagree with your statement in terms of the Brawls behaving exactly as those who make up the rules want them to behave. Us not liking those rules is hardly relevant, as long as those making the rules are happy with the outcome.

These more active BHs in lower tiers are calculating. They stay as dormant as possible (no prizes, treasure islands, finished upgrades, etc) for one Brawl, then they go all out on the next one, and so forth.

IMO, you're not losing much by not winning. The BH rewards (so, ignoring Gigs, which are personal) you get are split in 3 categories: ranking, victory, stages (points achieved). Of these, the ones for victory are the least interesting (some Daggers, boosts, and a not-very-useful item... totally uninteresting, IMO). Ranking rewards, which you get if you're among top 10, are the best ones ruby-wise, but you don't get anything else. They range (IIRC) from a few hundred to a few thousand rubies per member for higher tiers (no idea about lower ones). The stages rewards are a mix of goodies (ships, res, some rubies,...) and likely the most worth of the bunch. Just compare below: 7.5k rubies vs. a few boosts and Daggs vs. over 1k rubies and some quite useful items.

Here, see the composite that I made when my BH made #1 in Diamond tier:

Now, ranking - of course - kinda depends on which tier you end up in and for that you might want to consider a more calculating approach (what I described in the first paragraph). However, if other BHs are doing that as well, then the others who do it will still push you out of top 10, even in a lower tier. There is no helping that.

Other than trying to manipulate your tier in an effort to get in top 10 (which would reduce stages rewards), just go for the points and it totally doesn't matter if you win or lose. The victory reward is really all but useless.

What I would like to understand with this Brawl is how is it that they put our BH, a BH of 17 with 5 inactive, we hold no presidio's our bastion is only at 5 and we never have a score of over 200k but yet we are always in the Gold Tier with Bh's of over 100 members who have high scores of 1 million, some of them but for the most part most of them have scores of anywhere from 300k to a million. But when I look Rual is in the silver tier with scores always higher than ours so how is it our little BH is ranked for the gold tier????? Every week....This makes no sense. Every week I look at this and every week we are in the Gold Tier, every week we have very low scores. How is this possible? How is it that they rank us in the next to the top tier?? So yea I think there is something to this accusation about Plarium. Otherwise there is no way that we would be in the Gold Tier every week with all these high level BH's. 

What I would like to understand with this Brawl is how is it that they put our BH, a BH of 17 with 5 inactive, we hold no presidio's our bastion is only at 5 and we never have a score of over 200k but yet we are always in the Gold Tier with Bh's of over 100 members who have high scores of 1 million, some of them but for the most part most of them have scores of anywhere from 300k to a million. But when I look Rual is in the silver tier with scores always higher than ours so how is it our little BH is ranked for the gold tier????? Every week....This makes no sense. Every week I look at this and every week we are in the Gold Tier, every week we have very low scores. How is this possible? How is it that they rank us in the next to the top tier?? So yea I think there is something to this accusation about Plarium. Otherwise there is no way that we would be in the Gold Tier every week with all these high level BH's. 

shiv said:

Hi Luna, write with your main acc, why with alt? )) Maybe talk about Grim , NSF? or about acc s which you and DF buy? Don t want?

Very cool take 100 alts and write with 100 alts on forum 

I propose to shut your mouth and learn your players how to play. All your ARM team "slowpoke". How u want will be top BH, if u spent time on FS , HOW?

Maybe check your buy acc s? (screen 3). Don t want? 

AMBUSH, NORMA JEAN 3 - Rav , my small rat hello :) do u like write post with alts? 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/104_game-discussion/198658_so-what-exactly-does-it-take-for-plarium-to-take-action-against-euru-and-rual--/

Ya right ya Gobnik Rat shiv

Privateer said: