Sorry, what do you mean by "nineties" and "twenties"?

I like the brawl.  I like the extra rewards for stuff I do anyway.  I like the extra raids during the brawl so I can score more points.  I like the extra troop movement speed so I don't have to spend so much time waiting.  I like that for once Defense has the advantage because a defensive prize win is worth more points than an offensive one since you score more units.  I like that it scores a BH across a variety of categories and not just one activty.  If prizes truly are the main payout for the brawl then I say "It's about damn time we got a bit extra for all the time we invest in building them to slaughter!"

Now do I expect to keep up with the ultramegatronapolis BH of doom if paired with them?  Not at all.  Will I play my game and get my rewards on?  You betchyersweetbread I will.

If I have any problem with the brawl it is that the PvP is BH specific.  It shouldn't track how much of my brawl opponent I have killed but rather how much I have scored total.  I'm not in this game to attack randomly assigned opponents.  If I attack something it is because that flag offends me.

Now as to the math.  I'm not sure how they did it so quickly as a team but I suspect it was a delay in the points you saw.  Something seems off about the score keeping.  I couldn't even tell what categories our BH lost in last time since it was over when I went to view it.  We were winning last I checked.

imo 50k a player isn't too extreme of an expectation if everyone is commited and active.  So for every 20 players that would be 1M brawl points.  Not saying they are or are not cheating with bots or something to get thier points.  Just saying a BH of 100 players could be expected to have 5M brawl points if EVERYONE put the effort in.  How that would happen in 10 minutes I've no clue.

Mainly I'm just here to say I like the brawl!  Even if some elites have found a way to monopolize it the little guys at least get more for their nonmoney.

Keel D. Haul said:

I like the brawl.  I like the extra rewards for stuff I do anyway.  I like the extra raids during the brawl so I can score more points.  

I understand that we all enjoy it, but if "WE" are being cheated, abused, and disrespected, "WE" need to show solidarity, together our "WE" the players will be abused.

blar blar blar...It has been reported though official channels.and its all the brotherhood mr and mrs no avatar, all a around the same  level, and they make 4 million points in 10 to 15 mins, IF that is not a script I dont know what is.

Now another significant question is who owns this brotherhood, are they all verified email accounts, and are they selling black market accounts? I tend to agree with the previous posters its time to stop spending money on the game until this is " sorted out "

RuAL and EURU are both owned by one player with HUNDREDS of AUTOMATED, mass-created accounts. Shiv uses a script that logs into accounts and performs many, various tasks like putting troops from training away, collecting rewards, placing pearls, upgrading haven buildings and discoveries, training more units, and it's even capable of running more advanced tasks like playing prizes and performing massed attacks. I belong to ARMAGEDDON BH and our coalition of teams have been tracking the RuAL Association closely for over a year now. While the Brawl shows us that shiv obviously uses account automation, we also have proof of scripted massed attacks on one of our Bastions. 

To this day, Plarium has not banned shiv, nor his partners who cheat as much as he does. The game is rigged and this is why hundreds of us are going to quit at the end of the year. Some of us have spent THOUSDANDS of dollars on this game and the money players are the ones that MAKE PLARIUM THEIR MONEY - but it's really messed up how the free players who cheat left and right FOR YEARS are left to destroy our server (The Pirate Bay) and ruin the game for us who spend our hard-earned money on the game. 

If things aren't fixed after the most recent set of reports - I'm not going to complain to Plarium anymore, I'm going to social media with my hundreds of bits of proof of fowl play and I'm going to bash Plarium across the internet as one of the worst gaming sites to play games on because of this corrupt system they have going. When we are done going around the internet and exposing this, how many folk will wanna come play here? Even a 15% decrease in money-gamers here is enough to maybe start making those who are at the top of Plarium think more about how they are choosing to deal with fowl play. 

WE ARE ANGRY - WE WANT OUR SERVER RESTORED TO IT'S FAIR PLAYING FIELD IT ONCE HAD!

Fix it or we stop handing out the money and we tell the world not to play here and WHY!

SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON IF YOU AGREE!

Hi Luna, write with your main acc, why with alt? )) Maybe talk about Grim , NSF? or about acc s which you and DF buy? Don t want?

Very cool take 100 alts and write with 100 alts on forum 

I propose to shut your mouth and learn your players how to play. All your ARM team "slowpoke". How u want will be top BH, if u spent time on FS , HOW?

Maybe check your buy acc s? (screen 3). Don t want? 

AMBUSH, NORMA JEAN 3 - Rav , my small rat hello :) do u like write post with alts? 

How do you guys know that Plarium is not investigating it? This kind of investigation is done in-house and they cannot publicise the results (privacy protection). I don't know if CMs get any info on these investigations, but I can tell you that we mods get zero response, even for the things that we report. You don't have to like the whole secrecy thing (I know that I don't), but it kinda makes sense, and other games I played do it the same way.

Of course, if you decided that something is a foul play even though none of us have the data, then any discussion is futile.

Ambush, you are free to report your suspicions to any authorities or even raise a lawsuit yourself. Personally, I'd be thrilled if someone did it, because it would either sort out cheating if it really exists at the scale that some claim it does, or it would prove these accusations bogus. Until that happens, we're all just guessing.

using a script is not in the spirit of the game or fair play to all 

After a bubble bath and a glass of wine I decided I may as well chime in here - seeing how I was brought into it by shiv accusing others of being me. So. Here. I. Go....

Shiv - while I always found you (mostly) respectful in conversation, you telling me to shut up makes me want to do the exact opposite. I mean, you were actually talking to someone else, but you thought you were talking to me, so it's all the same....

You, sir, think yer so fricken awesome. Yer ego, if it were a tangible object, it wouldn't even fit inside the town in which you reside. Oh, how mighty you are!    "Look at me, I'm a cheater on a massive scale, I'm sooooo great and powerful. My name is shiv and I will destroy you with my Python Script because I'm not a good enough player to dominate the Pirate Bay server on my own..."  (Sorry, I couldn't get the right accent and rearranged English right...)

Whether Plarium finds shiv guilty or not, thousands of players over the years have clearly seen the guilt painted all over the scoreboard and in our battle reports. WE KNOW SHIV CHEATS ON A MASSIVE SCALE and we don't need Plariums confirmation. And no matter what RuAL and EURU scores are, the server will still turn on them and their allies. 

How about the 102 new accounts you created and put in RuAL, EURU, and Path of Daggers, located at the edge of the map, shiv? All accounts were created one right after the other! If I still cared about this game like I used to, I'd puke in disgust.

You want to take me on, shiv? I can guarantee you that once my Bastion falls, 1,000's of players will be sailing in on RuAL Association shores. I'm not like the rest where I will get knocked down, give up, and leave. I can rebuild fast, and stronger too, and I have so many friends in low places. You call me a slowpoke all you want, Mr.Over-CompensatingMan, I'm just waiting for a good reason to pull some rabbits from my hat! 

You have tolerated me for this long - I am one of the only players who will straight-up tell you how it is and what I really think of you. Why haven't you hit me yet? Because you weren't ready to. And what does yer Prize points say about you in RuAL and EURU?? That you are gearing up, but you should consider that many of us have been doing the same for the last 2 years! I'm not low on OFF! I've been building and saving for a long time. :) You poke me, I poke..... (insert mystery here).

Hear me now - No matter what you do, I will win. I might not win a first position in the game, I may not rock the Prizes like you, but no matter what you and your allies do, I can assure you, I will never "lose". I have back-up plans for my back-up plans. And even IF I were to leave this game because of the extreme corruption and unfair playing field that YOU (shiv) created, I can assure you that would be MY ultimate win, because real life trumps this virtual world, grade-A fecal matter, and leaving this game would mean more time for BETTER THINGS while you sit in yer underwear picking yer nose and running yer script every night! ::Laughing Like Hell::

Having said all that I close my reply with a little more relevance to this thread - To the light side of the server: Along with the prize points shiv made with his alts using Python Script, report his new havens and the havens created by some of his most important allies. Message me for coordinates if you can't find them. The more reports made, the more urgency Plarium will see in this matter, but don't expect results, make your own! 

Rise and resist, people.

This is not topic, this is cry and chat ARM and NSF (stop using alts for forum).

Plarium again. How to start programming due to game playing.

Small script for one of the plarium game

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/few-notes-about-google-games.html

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2017/04/plarium-again.html

Bebe said:

Plarium again. How to start programming due to game playing.

Small script for one of the plarium game

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/few-notes-about-google-games.html

http://skhohlov.blogspot.com/2017/04/plarium-again.html

Let me know when you manage to create a working script using either of these links. 

I saw the first one years ago, tried it for fun, and it was useless, as they admit in the comments.

The second one is just general, very obvious guidelines. It's a big leap from that to a working script.

None of that says that scripting is impossible. Given the nature of the game, scripting is and always will be possible. But these links are a joke.

either he is smart or a complete idiot is not the question. the question that needs to be answerd is. if they (plarium) are allowing him to get away with this, which it seems to me they are allowing him to to continue,then it has to be asked are we the rest of the players smart or complete idiots. the only other answer is Plarium is shiv,because i think enough evidence is public knowledge, so it must be blindingly clear  to them as well,if that is the case we are being taken for fools

i should have added this to my other post 

Here is a possible solution to the Brawl Argument, do not remove the prizing aspect of the Brawl 

But simply lower the points gained, to bring Prize playing in line with points gained from other tasks.

Interesting topic,,, 

You ll find here yr answers as at Sparta war of Empires we discover something similar yesterday...

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/128_game-discussion/195960_plarium-building-computer-coals/

Privateer said:

But simply lower the points gained, to bring Prize playing in line with points gained from other tasks.

Perhaps Plarium could take this into full consideration, and turn the Brawl into an all round fair Tournament .

When I raised the focus on prizes as nonsensical (as we already do have Prize tournaments), the responses I got gave me an impression that Plarium is well aware of this and happy with it.

Privateer said:

You do not have to play them.

They do nothing for your brotherhood as such and the player gets a few free toys if they do not spend money.

The Brotherhoods in the top of the ranking work it between there selves and the whole thing is an excersize in procrastination.

What I would like to understand with this Brawl is how is it that they put our BH, a BH of 17 with 5 inactive, we hold no presidio's our bastion is only at 5 and we never have a score of over 200k but yet we are always in the Gold Tier with Bh's of over 100 members who have high scores of 1 million, some of them but for the most part most of them have scores of anywhere from 300k to a million. But when I look Rual is in the silver tier with scores always higher than ours so how is it our little BH is ranked for the gold tier????? Every week....This makes no sense. Every week I look at this and every week we are in the Gold Tier, every week we have very low scores. How is this possible? How is it that they rank us in the next to the top tier?? So yea I think there is something to this accusation about Plarium. Otherwise there is no way that we would be in the Gold Tier every week with all these high level BH's.