There isn't much I can say here. I asked and, if you believe that there is a foul play at hand, you can report it here. If it's not that, then all players have the same chance to win, and Plarium won't change the tournament, at least not while it is so new and it remains to see how it plays out through a longer period of time.

Personally, I would suggest to chose when to go for the top spot and when to not do anything more than "business as usual". The latter still gives decent rewards, especially if you don't have to do anything special for it, while the latter is very nice, albeit too costly if it makes you go long way out of your usual ways of playing.

Sorry, what do you mean by "nineties" and "twenties"?

even a top 10 ranked BH can get into lower level tiers of brawl by low score or skipping brawl.

see the statement for your tier where it says 

A brawl is a measure of activity of a BH. So yes, a large but mostly inactive BH (either intentionally inactive during a brawl or more generally so) can end up in a lower tier. There can be a big difference between the activity (used to sort out tiers in brawls) and the military strength (which is related to the general ranking of BHs through the ability to hold territory (Presidios)). That's by design. A different type of BH ranking, one that rewards effort even if your BH is not very strong. Why would we only rank by strength?

If your BH has Presidios and a Bastion not at level 5 and empty of units, you are already exposed during Presidio/Bastion/PvP/Exp/... tournaments, so a brawl with PvP as its minor part shouldn't be adding a significant burden on your BH. If it is, please explain it to me.

If your BH has neither of these things, then turtle your units (tuck them in your harbours), frequently spend down, and then it doesn't matter if someone is hitting your havens. They'll waste Whirpools and charts for nothing, and you still might get a good chance to trap someone. Brawl or not, I do it all the time on s2, where my BH is one of the top ones.

If I'm missing a problem here, please enlighten me. I'd really like to help, but I don't understand what you guys see as an issue.

I like the brawl.  I like the extra rewards for stuff I do anyway.  I like the extra raids during the brawl so I can score more points.  I like the extra troop movement speed so I don't have to spend so much time waiting.  I like that for once Defense has the advantage because a defensive prize win is worth more points than an offensive one since you score more units.  I like that it scores a BH across a variety of categories and not just one activty.  If prizes truly are the main payout for the brawl then I say "It's about damn time we got a bit extra for all the time we invest in building them to slaughter!"

Now do I expect to keep up with the ultramegatronapolis BH of doom if paired with them?  Not at all.  Will I play my game and get my rewards on?  You betchyersweetbread I will.

If I have any problem with the brawl it is that the PvP is BH specific.  It shouldn't track how much of my brawl opponent I have killed but rather how much I have scored total.  I'm not in this game to attack randomly assigned opponents.  If I attack something it is because that flag offends me.

Now as to the math.  I'm not sure how they did it so quickly as a team but I suspect it was a delay in the points you saw.  Something seems off about the score keeping.  I couldn't even tell what categories our BH lost in last time since it was over when I went to view it.  We were winning last I checked.

imo 50k a player isn't too extreme of an expectation if everyone is commited and active.  So for every 20 players that would be 1M brawl points.  Not saying they are or are not cheating with bots or something to get thier points.  Just saying a BH of 100 players could be expected to have 5M brawl points if EVERYONE put the effort in.  How that would happen in 10 minutes I've no clue.

Mainly I'm just here to say I like the brawl!  Even if some elites have found a way to monopolize it the little guys at least get more for their nonmoney.

A lot of people think foul play is at hand.

If this euru brotherhood is any thing to do with Plarium it would be extremely disrespectful to the end users, and under current EEC legislation in regard to fraud would warrant external investigations, subject to Plarium not making a statement in here on it.

There would also if proved have serious ramification with microsoft, and paypal, user certification and payments to the company.

Until some sort of Plarium statement is published over this issue, WE as a community should not spend any more money on any Plarium games, and not play the clan brawls. 

One just has to look at euru crew roster to see a significant indicator of " foul play "

How do you guys know that Plarium is not investigating it? This kind of investigation is done in-house and they cannot publicise the results (privacy protection). I don't know if CMs get any info on these investigations, but I can tell you that we mods get zero response, even for the things that we report. You don't have to like the whole secrecy thing (I know that I don't), but it kinda makes sense, and other games I played do it the same way.

Of course, if you decided that something is a foul play even though none of us have the data, then any discussion is futile.

Ambush, you are free to report your suspicions to any authorities or even raise a lawsuit yourself. Personally, I'd be thrilled if someone did it, because it would either sort out cheating if it really exists at the scale that some claim it does, or it would prove these accusations bogus. Until that happens, we're all just guessing.

blar blar blar...It has been reported though official channels.and its all the brotherhood mr and mrs no avatar, all a around the same  level, and they make 4 million points in 10 to 15 mins, IF that is not a script I dont know what is.

Now another significant question is who owns this brotherhood, are they all verified email accounts, and are they selling black market accounts? I tend to agree with the previous posters its time to stop spending money on the game until this is " sorted out "

Keel D. Haul said:

I like the brawl.  I like the extra rewards for stuff I do anyway.  I like the extra raids during the brawl so I can score more points.  

I understand that we all enjoy it, but if "WE" are being cheated, abused, and disrespected, "WE" need to show solidarity, together our "WE" the players will be abused.

blar blar blar...It has been reported though official channels.and its all the brotherhood mr and mrs no avatar, all a around the same  level, and they make 4 million points in 10 to 15 mins, IF that is not a script I dont know what is.

Now another significant question is who owns this brotherhood, are they all verified email accounts, and are they selling black market accounts? I tend to agree with the previous posters its time to stop spending money on the game until this is " sorted out "

RuAL and EURU are both owned by one player with HUNDREDS of AUTOMATED, mass-created accounts. Shiv uses a script that logs into accounts and performs many, various tasks like putting troops from training away, collecting rewards, placing pearls, upgrading haven buildings and discoveries, training more units, and it's even capable of running more advanced tasks like playing prizes and performing massed attacks. I belong to ARMAGEDDON BH and our coalition of teams have been tracking the RuAL Association closely for over a year now. While the Brawl shows us that shiv obviously uses account automation, we also have proof of scripted massed attacks on one of our Bastions. 

To this day, Plarium has not banned shiv, nor his partners who cheat as much as he does. The game is rigged and this is why hundreds of us are going to quit at the end of the year. Some of us have spent THOUSDANDS of dollars on this game and the money players are the ones that MAKE PLARIUM THEIR MONEY - but it's really messed up how the free players who cheat left and right FOR YEARS are left to destroy our server (The Pirate Bay) and ruin the game for us who spend our hard-earned money on the game. 

If things aren't fixed after the most recent set of reports - I'm not going to complain to Plarium anymore, I'm going to social media with my hundreds of bits of proof of fowl play and I'm going to bash Plarium across the internet as one of the worst gaming sites to play games on because of this corrupt system they have going. When we are done going around the internet and exposing this, how many folk will wanna come play here? Even a 15% decrease in money-gamers here is enough to maybe start making those who are at the top of Plarium think more about how they are choosing to deal with fowl play. 

WE ARE ANGRY - WE WANT OUR SERVER RESTORED TO IT'S FAIR PLAYING FIELD IT ONCE HAD!

Fix it or we stop handing out the money and we tell the world not to play here and WHY!

SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON IF YOU AGREE!

Hi Luna, write with your main acc, why with alt? )) Maybe talk about Grim , NSF? or about acc s which you and DF buy? Don t want?

Very cool take 100 alts and write with 100 alts on forum 

I propose to shut your mouth and learn your players how to play. All your ARM team "slowpoke". How u want will be top BH, if u spent time on FS , HOW?

Maybe check your buy acc s? (screen 3). Don t want? 

AMBUSH, NORMA JEAN 3 - Rav , my small rat hello :) do u like write post with alts? 

I'm flattered, but I'm not Luna. While it is no secret she doesn't like you, many others also dislike you. You also missed my point. The cheating script you use is the problem. I don't care if a people have multiple accounts, but players who use automation for their accounts, those are the problem!

YOU are a problem.

Lick my boots, shiv! Lick 'em clean! You only win because of the automation tool you possess! Without it you wouldn't have half of what you do!

And as you accused me of replying here with a bunch of alts - There you sit going through your alts and liking your own post several times from them!

i don't take plarium serious for a long time,  and find some other games that are more fun and much less expensive.

of course, i will not say what games that are but i suggest everyone can find out yourself.

Plarium will do nothing for their players, just want to make money

What i will share is, that there is a new nice game coming up.... www.aftermathislands.com

Maybe it is better to leave the plarium games to the russians so they kill each other while other players can have much, much more fun with other games..

Then everybody is happy i guess  ;-)

shiv said:

Hi Luna, write with your main acc, why with alt? )) Maybe talk about Grim , NSF? or about acc s which you and DF buy? Don t want?

Very cool take 100 alts and write with 100 alts on forum 

I propose to shut your mouth and learn your players how to play. All your ARM team "slowpoke". How u want will be top BH, if u spent time on FS , HOW?

Maybe check your buy acc s? (screen 3). Don t want? 

AMBUSH, NORMA JEAN 3 - Rav , my small rat hello :) do u like write post with alts? 

You make a load of alts, you bragged it was over 2500, you run your mouth saying what a great player you are ( your not a good player ) you screw up the Russian server with your shenanigans, you try and black mail people for $100, and you have admitted in here you use a code to do prizes, and that you buy and sell accounts!

Then you tell people who cotton on to your scams to shut up. Really!

You sir are a cheap grifter.

How do you guys know that Plarium is not investigating it? This kind of investigation is done in-house and they cannot publicise the results (privacy protection). I don't know if CMs get any info on these investigations, but I can tell you that we mods get zero response, even for the things that we report. You don't have to like the whole secrecy thing (I know that I don't), but it kinda makes sense, and other games I played do it the same way.

Of course, if you decided that something is a foul play even though none of us have the data, then any discussion is futile.

Ambush, you are free to report your suspicions to any authorities or even raise a lawsuit yourself. Personally, I'd be thrilled if someone did it, because it would either sort out cheating if it really exists at the scale that some claim it does, or it would prove these accusations bogus. Until that happens, we're all just guessing.