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16 лют. 2022, 00:4416.02.22
18.03.19
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Mortar Whoring Needs Nerfing

This week's tourny map is Colonnade.  I've run into 3 straight matches where there is a player mortar whoring at their spawn.  Typically, I will send my maxed Shadow over with Arcs.  The pilot has a maxed Ability Duration so I get plenty of time to scoot around one side and take the mortar whore out.  

WRONG!

I tried 2 times each match (once per round) only to get my Shadow beat to shit before I ever made it behind their building.  Most of my causes of dead were Zephyrs stunning me instantly even though I'm in stealth mode.  That's total BS.  Killshot rushing is even worse.  The stupid stasis beam bots will slow you and you die.  Forget rushing past a Jugg or Ares with arcs.  You'll be toasted.

So WTF Plarium?  What are you guys trying to do?  Create a game so obnoxiously frustrating that people quit? 

*** Why make a game where the AI opponents have inhuman aim and reaction time? 

*** Why make a game where another player can sit on the other side of the map OFF RADAR where you can't counter mortar him and watch him demolish your team.?  Now, we are forced to play a mortar whore match where the most mortar kills win.  That's F'ing stupid.

*** Why make that POS whore weapon so powerful it one shots tanks?

Does anybody at Plarium even know what a match looks like with two teams of high level players (5500 pwr+)  I highly doubt it.  You get 10 guys together where each of them is capable of 20+ kills against bot teams and laugh at the match.  You'll laugh because it turns into a mortar fight EVERYTIME.   Everybody has maxed mortars and pilots.  Plarium you even ruined the end game!  Great job!

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16 лют. 2022, 20:2016.02.22
04.02.22
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lilbuttacup

i use em for 70m plus kill missions most maps are absolute garbage trying to do those with long arms

I think 70m+ kill missions are easy.  Just have wait for the right map, of course.

16 лют. 2022, 21:3116.02.22
25.07.20
185
huykedimere

I think 70m+ kill missions are easy.  Just have wait for the right map, of course.

that's the problem waiting for the right map

17 лют. 2022, 04:3717.02.22
232030

RM's are fine. You just need to keep moving and your team sucking so badly isn't a balance factor, it's a player problem. f you nerf RM's  you'll just start crying about being 2 shooted by DL's or mag dumped by MR's and crying for zephyr to be nerfed again.

17 лют. 2022, 07:1017.02.22
19.01.22
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RM's are fine. You just need to keep moving and your team sucking so badly isn't a balance factor, it's a player problem. f you nerf RM's  you'll just start crying about being 2 shooted by DL's or mag dumped by MR's and crying for zephyr to be nerfed again.

I guess you're a lower level player. Wait until you meet someone with dual RM12 and maxed pilot with maxed implants. This is the thing that bothers us the most. 

If you think that letting one player take a 3-4 man kill in just one salvo while being hidden on the other side of the map, virtually being unreachable - is fine,  you're either crazy or plain stupid.

17 лют. 2022, 08:0617.02.22
17 лют. 2022, 08:10(відредаговано)
232030

No I've played since beta. You just need to get good and also use teamwork. Most players are hard to diffentiate between bots as they are so bad.

If you're whining about RM's then you are plain stupid and bad at the game. It's that simple. You need only a shadow with javs. An RM user can't even hit you even after ability cd when you get close.


Get good.

17 лют. 2022, 10:1217.02.22
19.01.22
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No I've played since beta. You just need to get good and also use teamwork. Most players are hard to diffentiate between bots as they are so bad.

If you're whining about RM's then you are plain stupid and bad at the game. It's that simple. You need only a shadow with javs. An RM user can't even hit you even after ability cd when you get close.


Get good.

So you're telling me (and 99% of players) that we just need a specific mech with specific weapon just to get to the other side of the map hoping that no bot will stun me right when I'm in range and by any chance not being hit by that RM salvo covering 1/3 of the map, no matter the cover, because you either have a solid roof over your head or you have no cover from mortars, just to hunt one a-hole spamming this joke of a weapon not even caring to move a notch, because what for?

I realized you're both - crazy and stupid. Have fun being the fun police in this game.

17 лют. 2022, 11:2117.02.22
232030
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So you're telling me (and 99% of players) that we just need a specific mech with specific weapon just to get to the other side of the map hoping that no bot will stun me right when I'm in range and by any chance not being hit by that RM salvo covering 1/3 of the map, no matter the cover, because you either have a solid roof over your head or you have no cover from mortars, just to hunt one a-hole spamming this joke of a weapon not even caring to move a notch, because what for?

I realized you're both - crazy and stupid. Have fun being the fun police in this game.

You do not represent 99% of players and the fun police would be bad players like yourself trying to get a legit weapon nerfed. Oh the irony. Things shouldn't be nerfed because players lack teamwork and skill. You fit into both of those categories 😆 


Just get good and stop crying to get the game changed because you're bad. You are the fun police.

17 лют. 2022, 17:3417.02.22
17 лют. 2022, 17:34(відредаговано)
19.01.22
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Deleted

You do not represent 99% of players and the fun police would be bad players like yourself trying to get a legit weapon nerfed. Oh the irony. Things shouldn't be nerfed because players lack teamwork and skill. You fit into both of those categories 😆 


Just get good and stop crying to get the game changed because you're bad. You are the fun police.

Discussion with you is just pointless.

Try reading this forum, reddit or discord channel.

Go be a special snowflake and enjoy your godlikes every game.

17 лют. 2022, 18:5417.02.22
232030
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Discussion with you is just pointless.

Try reading this forum, reddit or discord channel.

Go be a special snowflake and enjoy your godlikes every game.

The special snowflake would be you wanting a weapon nerfed simply because you cant use shadow and dont play with friends. Im surprised you're not whining for DL's and MR's to be nerfed as well 😆

17 лют. 2022, 20:4117.02.22
19.01.22
42
Deleted

The special snowflake would be you wanting a weapon nerfed simply because you cant use shadow and dont play with friends. Im surprised you're not whining for DL's and MR's to be nerfed as well 😆

The thing is that DLs and MR are single target weapons requiring player to go out of cover. Mortars (with the radius implant) have waaay too big area of effect making it impossible to dodge by any mech except Killshot or Surge. Also RM player can stay in the same spot in the back of the map just scoring kills unseen by anyone. RMs is their cirrent state are just broken.

17 лют. 2022, 21:1117.02.22
232030
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The thing is that DLs and MR are single target weapons requiring player to go out of cover. Mortars (with the radius implant) have waaay too big area of effect making it impossible to dodge by any mech except Killshot or Surge. Also RM player can stay in the same spot in the back of the map just scoring kills unseen by anyone. RMs is their cirrent state are just broken.

Nah mate. Just get a shadow with javs and you can counter any RM user. It works 99% of the time. You can rush the RM user and it'll work pretty much everytime. It's not magic.

18 лют. 2022, 05:0918.02.22
18 лют. 2022, 05:19(відредаговано)
18.03.19
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No I've played since beta. You just need to get good and also use teamwork. Most players are hard to diffentiate between bots as they are so bad.

If you're whining about RM's then you are plain stupid and bad at the game. It's that simple. You need only a shadow with javs. An RM user can't even hit you even after ability cd when you get close.


Get good.

Dude your missing something.  Getting a shadow across many maps is hard enough against bots.   I know.  I have a maxed shadow with a maxed G-lock pilot with maxed implants.  It's pure luck not running into a zephyr that will stun you instantly, even if ur invis.  Getting a shadow across a map when going up against a few squaded guys 5500-6300 pwr is not gonna happen.  Ur shadow will get eaten up and spit out.

Also, you bringing up shadow with javs just goes to show your lack of experience.  A maxed killshot mortar whoring in the back is gonna one-shot dash a shadow while your javs barely put a dent into him.  Nobody my level (6000) dares bring a shadow onto the map with javs.  You'll get laughed at and have that shadow shoved up your ass real quick.  The only really viable setup for shadow at max levels is the arc 10/6 setup with a maxed G-lock pilot.  

Also, another thing.  Who the hell is gonna waste their Rosa pilot on a jav setup?  That pilot is there for Disc Launchers only.  If you waste Rosa on javs you have no business telling people to "get good" cause your too noob to make that call.

One last thing.  Your first response says "You just need to keep moving".  LMFAO! are you serious.  So you start sprinting when the first salvo comes in and it barely hits you.  Then the second salvo comes.  WTF do you do now smart guy?  

FACT1:  No mech can out-walk a MR12 salvo with a maxed radius implant.

FACT2:  Most mechs cannot  out-SPRINT a MR12 salvo with a maxed radius implant.  2nd salvo after sprint is gone = DEAD

FACT3:  Only a killshot can consistantly out run a MR12 player with a maxed radius implant.

Clearly you are still facing noobs with non-maxed pilots and implants.  Come play with the big-boys before you go shooting your mouth.

18 лют. 2022, 06:0318.02.22
21.01.21
65
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Nah mate. Just get a shadow with javs and you can counter any RM user. It works 99% of the time. You can rush the RM user and it'll work pretty much everytime. It's not magic.

what if they are playing with friends? Using 2 RM 12s baits players into rushing into camping killshots. A shadow with javelins is killshot food. you also have to get 75m to shoot them if you dont have the range implant. They can also just camp in a spot were they can go under a roof. Use shotgun 8s or ARKs on shadow if your going to backdoor. 

18 лют. 2022, 13:5118.02.22
18 лют. 2022, 18:27(відредаговано)
232030

We must be playing different games then as i dont find it a problem and if they're playing with friends then i guess you best get some to play with too.


Fact 1: It's not that hard

Fact 2: teamwork is op 😆 

Fact 3: it's "know" not "now" smart guy


You dressed up being bad and showing an inability to adapt very well there. If you dont want to use a pilot on a setup that will in fact beat what you're crying about, then enjoy dying. Adapt or die. Get good. If you're 6k power and find them a problem then you are in fact absolutely terrible and probably not much better than a bot 😆 


And not bringing a direct counter setup because "people will laugh at you" just shows that you will choose to cry over adapting because street cred.....in a mobile game 😆 and in another posts you're 3050 power but above you're 6000. You're a liar.


Comedy gold. Get good.

19 лют. 2022, 10:3319.02.22
20 лют. 2022, 01:39(відредаговано)
21.01.21
65
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We must be playing different games then as i dont find it a problem and if they're playing with friends then i guess you best get some to play with too.


Fact 1: It's not that hard

Fact 2: teamwork is op 😆 

Fact 3: it's "know" not "now" smart guy


You dressed up being bad and showing an inability to adapt very well there. If you dont want to use a pilot on a setup that will in fact beat what you're crying about, then enjoy dying. Adapt or die. Get good. If you're 6k power and find them a problem then you are in fact absolutely terrible and probably not much better than a bot 😆 


And not bringing a direct counter setup because "people will laugh at you" just shows that you will choose to cry over adapting because street cred.....in a mobile game 😆 and in another posts you're 3050 power but above you're 6000. You're a liar.


Comedy gold. Get good.

who said I they were 6000? Do you even look at whos posting? Main problem is RMs can bug and go past roofs and walls. Even with a maxed aoe implant they dont have the range to kill me were I die. Also like I said javelins in most maps do not counter RMs...

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19 лют. 2022, 13:3519.02.22
232030

There  is  no  effective  counter  to  maxed  players  using  maxed  RMs  and  maxed  pilots.    All  you  can  hope  to  do  is  have  the  same  build,  or  team  with  someone who  had  the  same  build.    At  that  point,  skill  is  out  the  window.    The  match is  now  a  pure  artillery dual   and  all  other  bots  and  weapons  are  inconsequential.    The  team  who  launches  a  RM  salvo  first  against the  opposition RM  mech  wins.    Period.    The  fantasy of  using  a  miraculously powerful Shadow  with  javs  to  assassinate  the  opposing RM  players  is  pure  noob  BS.    

22 лют. 2022, 02:4322.02.22
22 лют. 2022, 02:51(відредаговано)
18.03.19
36

TerranAxiom it's so obvious your low down on the totem pole.  Everything you say is coming from a low level player with lack of experience of the end game.

To prove your idiocy, I said in my previous reply:

 "WTF do you do now smart guy?"  

you replied:

"it's "know" not "now" smart guy"

Then you signed off with:

"Comedy gold"

Yup your right about that.  Your the laugh of this entire post.  Your so f'ing stupid you can't even read right.  Take your noob ass back to your little fantasy world.  I play with HEAT squads everyday.  You don't know jack shit man.  Guys this level will shove your little shadow right up your ass LMFAO.   Do you have any clue how many jav 8 volleys it takes to take down a maxed killshot with a maxed pilot?  3 as in three as in tres or how about roman numerals III.  If you are too dumb for that stick out your hand and remove two fingers.  That's how many volleys it takes.   Do know a maxed killshot will one shot a shadow with a dash smart guy?  

Nobody here has agreed with ANYTHING you say.   You think your right and everybody is wrong?  Your sitting  here looking like a fool all by your lonesome.  How does it feel to be so foolish and be too dumb and proud to even know it?  Also, I love how you keep saying "get good".  Why don't you get some experience playing squads past 5500+ and then come out and talk cause right now you just sound so ignorant.


24 лют. 2022, 16:2924.02.22
10.09.21
14

Nerf the Rocket Mortar radius implant, and the problem is solved.

24 лют. 2022, 18:2524.02.22
232030

I don't know how you can say that mortars with increased radius arent broken.  

Every weapon in the game can be avoided by every other mech.  If you play strategically, there is always a way to overcome any mech, any weapon.  Except mortars. 

A slower mech will be killed by mortars before they can even get to cover, if there is cover on the map.  The radius is so large that you also cant escape it, even moving at top speed.  That is a bad experience.  

"Git Gud" only applies when there is a way to avoid/counter.  With mortars, if you spawn anything but scouts, it's not possible. Imagine if you're playing fortnight/call of duty/whatever, and there is a weapon you can spawn with that has 100% chance to hit and kill a specific class.  Would anyone want to play that class anymore?  Of course not. It's not fun knowing that if the opponent chooses a certain weapon, there is zero chance of survival. Thats the state of mortars right now. 

5 берез. 2022, 13:5705.03.22
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I don't know how you can say that mortars with increased radius arent broken.  

Every weapon in the game can be avoided by every other mech.  If you play strategically, there is always a way to overcome any mech, any weapon.  Except mortars. 

A slower mech will be killed by mortars before they can even get to cover, if there is cover on the map.  The radius is so large that you also cant escape it, even moving at top speed.  That is a bad experience.  

"Git Gud" only applies when there is a way to avoid/counter.  With mortars, if you spawn anything but scouts, it's not possible. Imagine if you're playing fortnight/call of duty/whatever, and there is a weapon you can spawn with that has 100% chance to hit and kill a specific class.  Would anyone want to play that class anymore?  Of course not. It's not fun knowing that if the opponent chooses a certain weapon, there is zero chance of survival. Thats the state of mortars right now. 

Actually, i can usually get a decent distance away from a strike that i either get minimal damage or no damage. The important thing is to run and try to find cover as soon as u see an attack coming and to run then FACE where the attack is landing if you cant get far enough away so that your rear doesnt get the blunt of it, which can sometimes be enough to save you.

Maxed RMs may be annoying to weaker players, but even people that use them have to be careful as they tend to be targeted a lot.

Not really any different than people have maxed out sniper weapons, but i personally dont have a problem with either, its all part of the game and strategy for each one.