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3 берез. 2025, 15:0703.03.25
3 берез. 2025, 20:01(відредаговано)
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Thanks for all the info and the examples! We are likely to get back to these stats in the future, but not at this moment, as we have more prioritized tasks to work on, including the Matchmaking system. Our team appreciates your enthusiasm and input 🙂

Hi, CrystalDrew. Hope you can pass on these buggy stats to the developers. Note that the numbers for these are calculated keeping in mind that fire rates now include reload time, so they are buggy under the new system.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
7 берез. 2025, 10:4607.03.25
10.02.23
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Hi, CrystalDrew. Hope you can pass on these buggy stats to the developers. Note that the numbers for these are calculated keeping in mind that fire rates now include reload time, so they are buggy under the new system.

Hi! Expect fix in the in 3.280 version 😉

7 берез. 2025, 12:3707.03.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Hi! Expect fix in the in 3.280 version 😉

Nice thanks!

17 квіт. 2025, 09:3217.04.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Hi! Expect fix in the in 3.280 version 😉

Hi, CrystalDrew. It doesn't look like this got fixed in this release. Could you please check if the fix is still pending? Thanks.

29 квіт. 2025, 12:5229.04.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Hi! Expect fix in the in 3.280 version 😉

Not fixed in the 3.290 release either. Could you please check if they have maybe revised the release plan for this fix? Thanks.

29 квіт. 2025, 18:5829.04.25
29 квіт. 2025, 18:58(відредаговано)
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Not fixed in the 3.290 release either. Could you please check if they have maybe revised the release plan for this fix? Thanks.

They fixed next to nothing that the player base wanted with the latest update (like usual). All they did was update the framework to sell us more useless items to make the balance even worse. Their priority is making money, not gameplay improvements...

31 жовт. 2025, 13:5331.10.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Thanks for all the info and the examples! We are likely to get back to these stats in the future, but not at this moment, as we have more prioritized tasks to work on, including the Matchmaking system. Our team appreciates your enthusiasm and input 🙂

Can we get the stats fixed please? It's been way too long, and is probably one of the easiest things your devs would have to do. I've seen YouTube content creators also mention how unreliable the stats are. 

19 листоп. 2025, 08:1019.11.25
30.01.24
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Bumping this up to request once again to please fix the buggy stats. There's no point in the stats if we don't know which ones are right and which ones are wrong.

By the way, unrelated to fire rates, the silverthorn ability radius is listed as 100m, which is almost certainly wrong (I don't have the mech but it clearly looks like a mistake).

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
19 листоп. 2025, 12:2519.11.25
10.02.23
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Hello! According to the dev team, starting from the 3.280 version, all the stats must be correct.

It should be noted that active Modifiers may also affect the stats.

19 листоп. 2025, 14:0619.11.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Hello! According to the dev team, starting from the 3.280 version, all the stats must be correct.

It should be noted that active Modifiers may also affect the stats.

It doesn't look like they validated that statement before making it :-). For example, see my post on thermal lance 6 from December last year.

  • Fire rate in stats (including reload time, per your update) = 274 rpm
  • Fire rate in seconds = 274/60 = 4.57 rps (including reload time)
  • Number of rounds in magazine (in stats) = 75
  • Time to empty magazine = 75/4.57 = 16.4 seconds including reload time
  • Reload time in stats = 22.5 seconds

The time to empty the magazine, since it includes reload time, should have been greater than 22.5 seconds.

The numbers that I noted in that example are the exact same numbers in the game today. Here is a screenshot:

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
20 листоп. 2025, 11:5420.11.25
10.02.23
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It doesn't look like they validated that statement before making it :-). For example, see my post on thermal lance 6 from December last year.

  • Fire rate in stats (including reload time, per your update) = 274 rpm
  • Fire rate in seconds = 274/60 = 4.57 rps (including reload time)
  • Number of rounds in magazine (in stats) = 75
  • Time to empty magazine = 75/4.57 = 16.4 seconds including reload time
  • Reload time in stats = 22.5 seconds

The time to empty the magazine, since it includes reload time, should have been greater than 22.5 seconds.

The numbers that I noted in that example are the exact same numbers in the game today. Here is a screenshot:

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Hi! Just checked it myself, it meets the mentioned Reload Speed. Here is the video proof.  

As you can see, the Magazine was fully empty at 00:14 of the video, and it was fully loaded back at 00:36, so it really takes 22.5 s.


20 листоп. 2025, 22:1620.11.25
30.01.24
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CrystalDrew

Hi! Just checked it myself, it meets the mentioned Reload Speed. Here is the video proof.  

As you can see, the Magazine was fully empty at 00:14 of the video, and it was fully loaded back at 00:36, so it really takes 22.5 s.


Thanks for the experiment but I'm not sure how you concluded that I've been claiming the reload speed is wrong. The title and all the calculations I've shown point to the fire rates. In general, the time to empty the magazine (including reload time) should obviously have been greater than just the reload time itself. However, if you see the calculation above, this time (16.4 seconds) is lower than the reload time (22.5 seconds) which doesn't make sense.

So either the fire rate is wrong (most likely) or the number of rounds per magazine is wrong or my calculations are wrong. Which is it actually?

NOTE: Why "including reload time"? Because you'd informed us in this thread last year that fire rate stats have been updated to now include reload time (earlier they excluded reload time). Has that by any chance changed? Do fire rate stats now exclude the reload time again?

3 груд. 2025, 19:05Вчора
30.01.24
253

@CrystalDrew , welcome back. Please see my response above.