With the support telling me to take a hike i turn to the forums.
Screenshot above shows Demon Kane's position in 3 consecutive weekly rankings in raiding, last one is still running. How is that possible with only one event giving additional 20 raids in last 3 weeks (btw. i know he is cheating).
With the support cleary not caring public shaming is all what left i guess.
Enjoy whatever left from this game.
Gadheras said:
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And my screenshot doesn't do that? Does "consecutive" doesnt mean what i think it means? He raided 7M per week for 3 consecutive weeks and then some and usually "then some" part comes from the previous week. Which in this case isnt true because he didnt stop raiding in between his top2 weekly rankings finishes.
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit? Start checking weekly raiding rankings and see how many people in top3 are not from WoH or WoH2.
Sunbro said:
Gadheras said:
...And my screenshot doesn't do that? Does "consecutive" doesnt mean what i think it means? He raided 7M per week for 3 consecutive weeks and then some and usually "then some" part comes from the previous week. Which in this case isnt true because he didnt stop raiding in between his top2 weekly rankings finishes.
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit? Start checking weekly raiding rankings and see how many people in top3 are not from WoH or WoH2.
Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
Sure princess...Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
quit complaining about your failures and try to learn something
Some basic mathematics can explain that he is not cheating.
By the way just because you have won the raid tournament doesn't mean you know how it worksd.
A mod will explain the maths for you.
Sunbro said:
Jezebel said:
Sure princess...Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
quit complaining about your failures and try to learn something
you are in denial so I suppose there is no point in further explanation - again Queen Jez to you :))
Sunbro said:
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit?
when plarium has the VIP program, that is basically sanctioned cheating, why should i care if this fellow found a bug to exploit. Big deal. plarium gives out free sapphires and 250k offense every few days to "specially selected players".
Jezebel said:
Sunbro said:
Gadheras said:
...And my screenshot doesn't do that? Does "consecutive" doesnt mean what i think it means? He raided 7M per week for 3 consecutive weeks and then some and usually "then some" part comes from the previous week. Which in this case isnt true because he didnt stop raiding in between his top2 weekly rankings finishes.
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit? Start checking weekly raiding rankings and see how many people in top3 are not from WoH or WoH2.
Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
quit complaining about your failures and try to learn something
Yep, it certainly looks like he's just been enjoying the extra raids granted by the flag tournaments.
It's also possible to store up a bunch of raids for use in getting to the top of weekly rankings like this:
Send 10 raids at a castle 24 hours away. Before the raids hit the castle activates total protection or teleports to a different location. The raids are returned and added back to your total, in addition to the 9 raids you've recovered in the meantime, giving you a total of 19. Send all 19 to the castle again, repeat, next day you have 28. etc etc. You can store up an unlimited amount of raids this way. It doesn't actually give you extra raids, it just lets you store them up to use them all in one week. Plarium has been told about this, and decided that it wasn't an exploit but a game feature, so feel free to use it.
BiohazarD said:
Yep, it certainly looks like he's just been enjoying the extra raids granted by the flag tournaments.
It's also possible to store up a bunch of raids for use in getting to the top of weekly rankings like this:
Send 10 raids at a castle 24 hours away. Before the raids hit the castle activates total protection or teleports to a different location. The raids are returned and added back to your total, in addition to the 9 raids you've recovered in the meantime, giving you a total of 19. Send all 19 to the castle again, repeat, next day you have 28. etc etc. You can store up an unlimited amount of raids this way. It doesn't actually give you extra raids, it just lets you store them up to use them all in one week. Plarium has been told about this, and decided that it wasn't an exploit but a game feature, so feel free to use it.
yep it thas way how people acumulte raids
you can also use cancelers to stuck more. besides all that, u can receive 20 aditional raids at it happened last week gave by plarium.
RegardsI really should let this go seeing as i am perceived as a weirdo here. Unfortunately its not in my nature.
Did any of you actually tired to compete recently in weekly raiding rankings? Did any of you tried to move raids from one week to another? (Not to mention suggested by princess 2 weeks.) You all know how to do it, try it. Not once but few times. You'll see things like in my screenshot pretty regularly along with accounts from WoH gaining on people during the week (I bet also raids from flag tournaments - surely).
Few months ago there was a topic about someone from WoH winning weekly rankings back to back, no one cared then no one cares now. Well not everyone, now different accounts from WoH are winning back to back.
As for flaming princess i lost all respect i had for her after the "hack" of frenzie account incident and finding out what her role was in it.
I said what i had to say, I am done with the support and forum.
Like i said before enjoy whatever is left from this game.
Sunbro said:
I really should let this go seeing as i am perceived as a weirdo here. Unfortunately its not in my nature.
Did any of you actually tired to compete recently in weekly raiding rankings? Did any of you tried to move raids from one week to another? (Not to mention suggested by princess 2 weeks.) You all know how to do it, try it. Not once but few times. You'll see things like in my screenshot pretty regularly along with accounts from WoH gaining on people during the week (I bet also raids from flag tournaments - surely).
Few months ago there was a topic about someone from WoH winning weekly rankings back to back, no one cared then no one cares now. Well not everyone, now different accounts from WoH are winning back to back.
As for flaming princess i lost all respect i had for her after the "hack" of frenzie account incident and finding out what her role was in it.
I said what i had to say, I am done with the support and forum.
Like i said before enjoy whatever is left from this game.
Hi, SUNBRO! I'm sad to hear that you're dissatisfied with the game :(
On the current stage we haven't noticed any bugs with the Rankings, that can correlate with the situation that you have decribed.
We're keeping the fingers on the pulse though: our developers and QA engineers are testing the things like this on the regular basis.
If you have any other issues or concerns, please let us know abut them, and we'll do our best to help you!
Its funny how what many would see as a bug or a "exploiting the system" is a feature for Plarium. More reflect the unwillingness to fix it. The effort of those that goes for it probably the same, but without know how mechanics work and can be abused or what not, one would be at a serious disadventage from the get go.Jezebel said:
Sunbro said:
Gadheras said:
...And my screenshot doesn't do that? Does "consecutive" doesnt mean what i think it means? He raided 7M per week for 3 consecutive weeks and then some and usually "then some" part comes from the previous week. Which in this case isnt true because he didnt stop raiding in between his top2 weekly rankings finishes.
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit? Start checking weekly raiding rankings and see how many people in top3 are not from WoH or WoH2.
Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
quit complaining about your failures and try to learn somethingYep, it certainly looks like he's just been enjoying the extra raids granted by the flag tournaments.
It's also possible to store up a bunch of raids for use in getting to the top of weekly rankings like this:
Send 10 raids at a castle 24 hours away. Before the raids hit the castle activates total protection or teleports to a different location. The raids are returned and added back to your total, in addition to the 9 raids you've recovered in the meantime, giving you a total of 19. Send all 19 to the castle again, repeat, next day you have 28. etc etc. You can store up an unlimited amount of raids this way. It doesn't actually give you extra raids, it just lets you store them up to use them all in one week. Plarium has been told about this, and decided that it wasn't an exploit but a game feature, so feel free to use it.
Yep, it certainly can make things confusing sometimes when you can't tell what will be considered as "cheating" by plarium vs what is considered normal gameplay.BiohazarD said:Its funny how what many would see as a bug or a "exploiting the system" is a feature for Plarium. More reflect the unwillingness to fix it. The effort of those that goes for it probably the same, but without know how mechanics work and can be abused or what not, one would be at a serious disadventage from the get go.Jezebel said:
Sunbro said:
Gadheras said:
...And my screenshot doesn't do that? Does "consecutive" doesnt mean what i think it means? He raided 7M per week for 3 consecutive weeks and then some and usually "then some" part comes from the previous week. Which in this case isnt true because he didnt stop raiding in between his top2 weekly rankings finishes.
It really doesnt bother any of you that someone is abusing an exploit? Start checking weekly raiding rankings and see how many people in top3 are not from WoH or WoH2.
Look at the current flag tournament - they have 4 buffs if they use the buffs for raids they get an additional 20 raids per day - if they don't use all of them they can carry the raids (one day's worth so 20) over to the following weeks - all they have to do is watch the rankings and stop raiding when they have their position secured and save the remainder for the next week
quit complaining about your failures and try to learn somethingYep, it certainly looks like he's just been enjoying the extra raids granted by the flag tournaments.
It's also possible to store up a bunch of raids for use in getting to the top of weekly rankings like this:
Send 10 raids at a castle 24 hours away. Before the raids hit the castle activates total protection or teleports to a different location. The raids are returned and added back to your total, in addition to the 9 raids you've recovered in the meantime, giving you a total of 19. Send all 19 to the castle again, repeat, next day you have 28. etc etc. You can store up an unlimited amount of raids this way. It doesn't actually give you extra raids, it just lets you store them up to use them all in one week. Plarium has been told about this, and decided that it wasn't an exploit but a game feature, so feel free to use it.
Never thought about this approach till seeing this thread. And now can empty out old castles with 100k hits back to back.
Good stuff, didn't realize this was possible. Thanks for the idea :)@Sunbro
I hoped that you would have been answered by now. Seeing that you were instead you were lied to.
Unless if the mechanism of raiding have changed the above is true.
Now factor WoH and it alts use.With reverse raid a league can win as many raid tournament as possible.
Factor other loopes, for example if a castle raid you you can raid it 3 times the following week, netting 200 K raid points
Then there is raid promotion trick. Its expensive to use but in a day you get 9.6 raids each every 2.5 hr
You can therefore promote a maximum of 56.6 raids from last week to this week. Plus 70 raids, plus those from tricks in a normal week without Plarium's 30 raids.
Only one person has managed to pull this trick. Its expensive to promote raids from Monday to Monday. Friday to Monday is a popular promote.
The was a known reported bug that gives you extra raids. It was never reproduced but I also experienced it. I am not sure if someone managed to reproduce it and is using it to his advantage.
Excuse the grammar.
I read all those posts and I must say I had a bit of a laugh. You cannot call cheating if somebody found a way to exploit the game. Especially not for raiding imao. Technically it is forbidden to have more than one account and it is a box that we all tick when we register for this game. Yet, probably over 85% of the players have at least 2 accounts: tribute ranking is won on the basis of alts, PVP can be won using alts and so many other things... Raiding... well, why not being won also with alts?
You want to eliminate cheating? Eliminate alts, but this would happen only when pigs fly.
The only honest competition is probably the battleground one.
Plarium actually doesn't mind if you got ANY given number of alts anylonger. If you got time for it, run as many you want. They don't care. It was easier for them to allow everyone use as many they wanted, than enforce their own rules in the end.I read all those posts and I must say I had a bit of a laugh. You cannot call cheating if somebody found a way to exploit the game. Especially not for raiding imao. Technically it is forbidden to have more than one account and it is a box that we all tick when we register for this game. Yet, probably over 85% of the players have at least 2 accounts: tribute ranking is won on the basis of alts, PVP can be won using alts and so many other things... Raiding... well, why not being won also with alts?
You want to eliminate cheating? Eliminate alts, but this would happen only when pigs fly.
The only honest competition is probably the battleground one.
BiohazarD said:
Gadheras said:
It may still be in the ToS somewhere, I'm not sure if they actually went in and removed it. But they're definitely not currently enforcing it.Marino said:
Plarium actually doesn't mind if you got ANY given number of alts anylonger. If you got time for it, run as many you want. They don't care. It was easier for them to allow everyone use as many they wanted, than enforce their own rules in the end.I read all those posts and I must say I had a bit of a laugh. You cannot call cheating if somebody found a way to exploit the game. Especially not for raiding imao. Technically it is forbidden to have more than one account and it is a box that we all tick when we register for this game. Yet, probably over 85% of the players have at least 2 accounts: tribute ranking is won on the basis of alts, PVP can be won using alts and so many other things... Raiding... well, why not being won also with alts?
You want to eliminate cheating? Eliminate alts, but this would happen only when pigs fly.
The only honest competition is probably the battleground one.
In ToS we don't prohibit players to have several accounts. BiohazarD is right that we don't encourage players to run several of them. On the opposite, we add different limits to the game that makes it harder to run several accounts. Plus, it's quite time consuming to have several highly developed accounts.
