Roane spent over a hundred thousand dollars on the game.  So not really surprising he's ranked higher than Taz, who hasn't spent much if anything. 

If KoK really has a secret trick that let them get lots of free troops from the BGs would they post it on the forums for everybody to use?  Wouldn't they keep it to themselves and post lots of fake info to keep their enemies confused?

BiohazarD said:

Roane spent over a hundred thousand dollars on the game.  So not really surprising he's ranked higher than Taz, who hasn't spent much if anything. 

If KoK really has a secret trick that let them get lots of free troops from the BGs would they post it on the forums for everybody to use?  Wouldn't they keep it to themselves and post lots of fake info to keep their enemies confused?

Have yu ever considered that, it all false, and everybody knows about it. If they don't then they don't want to know about it. But as far as I know its not anything new, its just an upgrade from the one I posted lately, which I ma not surprised as I got it from KoK. If anything, only coiners can master such a strategy. 

bgs are broken i am doing bgs for past few weeks i am down 20mil now and have not received any payout this game is stupid and broken.

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

On one of their other game forums plarium said that they use a bank. 

And it's interesting how you just declare that all the other theories are false with no evidence then put up your own theory backed by no evidence...

Plarium has never said that, they always give the same reply, we don't know, no one knows, or we can't tell you. Last week BG question.

Plarium have never, said there is a bank BG system, only Lord Cor something was the first to give such advice on total domination, and these advice was then expanded, and posted by lord Oberon in latter articles on stormfall, and latter by the other admin, where he stipulated the best building units ect. 

What we can't deny is that BG don't work as intended because we as players don't do them as intended. We based our intire understading of the subject on matters which have never been proved. and which never worked. Yes with time we understood that method, and we expanded on it, but these only compounded our failing rate. 

Many Players are not getting rewards and have given up intirely on BG, because we are doing them wrong

I can't give you, evidence for that theory as I haven't developedt it alone, its a colloborative work, and I have no full right to share anything beyond its priciple.

I don't know about anyone else but I had a good weekend on the Battlegrounds.

http://prntscr.com/ejgyfn

I gave up on doing battlegrounds. 

They are not worth the headache in my opinion

I only send my lower tier offense/defense units to do the SAGA's  quests to get the legendary units, other than that I don't see the point because my army will infinity increase in power due to the fact that FOOD does not stop this anymore.

nice payouts though!

BG trick - never heard of BG tricks...... oh how did that 50m free offence land in my castle....

MU HA HA HA HA HA

Oracle said:

7. We don't know anything about BG, true

I suggest you keep a log of resource in and out of BG's. Encourage your league to do the same.

Then you will move from knowing nothing about BG's to knowing something about BG's. 

If you are clever and smart you will be able to start crafting some theories from the info you collect. You then test your theories. If you get positive results from your tests, you learned something. Eventually you might become a BG master as those that have done these things before you have come to be.

Because Plarium has successively messed with BG's over many updates it has unfortunately got A LOT more difficult to learn the lessons. But it's not impossible.

And yes there is a current BG trick that can deliver 30-50m free troop power. You can write silly posts based on your zero degree of knowledge saying there aren't but it won't change the fact there is.

KoK has survived as one of the best leagues, in a game of uber coining, for 3.5yrs, without uber coiners of our own solely due to mastery of the game mechanics in areas like this. That should be all the evidence you need.

I also posted a screenshot of my off/def increase when I tricked my account for 80m free power under the old trick - so there is evidence somewhere on the forums also.

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

7. We don't know anything about BG, true

I suggest you keep a log of resource in and out of BG's. Encourage your league to do the same.

Then you will move from knowing nothing about BG's to knowing something about BG's. 

If you are clever and smart you will be able to start crafting some theories from the info you collect. You then test your theories. If you get positive results from your tests, you learned something. Eventually you might become a BG master as those that have done these things before you have come to be.

Because Plarium has successively messed with BG's over many updates it has unfortunately got A LOT more difficult to learn the lessons. But it's not impossible.

And yes there is a current BG trick that can deliver 30-50m free troop power. You can write silly posts based on your zero degree of knowledge saying there aren't but it won't change the fact there is.

KoK has survived as one of the best leagues, in a game of uber coining, for 3.5yrs, without uber coiners of our own solely due to mastery of the game mechanics in areas like this. That should be all the evidence you need.

I also posted a screenshot of my off/def increase when I tricked my account for 80m free power under the old trick - so there is evidence somewhere on the forums also.

Almost all the information I have read and learned by experience about BG's says to me that there is a "TAX" when troops are sent to BG's meaning in the end you lose more than you gain...

Can you please enlighten us about this so called "trick" that lands 30-50m free troop power?

The only people with 30-50million troop power are "Coiners"... I sincerely doubt that anyone who is 100% free-2-play or even casuals like myself who spends $10-20 every 6months have anywhere close to 10m let alone 30m.

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

7. We don't know anything about BG, true

And yes there is a current BG trick that can deliver 30-50m free troop power. You can write silly posts based on your zero degree of knowledge saying there aren't but it won't change the fact there is.

KoK has survived as one of the best leagues, in a game of uber coining, for 3.5yrs, without uber coiners of our own solely due to mastery of the game mechanics in areas like this. That should be all the evidence you need.

I also posted a screenshot of my off/def increase when I tricked my account for 80m free power under the old trick - so there is evidence somewhere on the forums also

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Its not a trick per say, As far as i heard it, just a rouse. I wonder why you thought It will work 

Don't pretend you have any idea what it is or how it works - you don't. You started a thread that said no one knows anything remember.

And I think it works cause I have used it 25-30 times (once for me and then helping league mates and allies). It's not a theory or an idea it's a thing :)

Unfortunately you have to get to a certain size to run the trick (well to run it effectively), which limits the number of people that have used it.

And you know what really puts the icing on the cake. The BG mechanic that makes it possible - Plarium swear blind it doesn't exist - cause BG's are "working as intended" which losely translated means Plarium don't have a clue anymore how they work. People that understood the code have long since left the company I suspect.

DJ these is not a threat about you or your league, and a BG trick that everybody knows about and then you pretend otherwise so that you can just fancy, and brag people out. 

Its not a BG are not working threat, its a BG alternative theory Bg, for those who feels like the current BG theory are not working for them, or are not conclusive enough to guarantee a 100% win. 

So if you have any other, ''trick'' I don't wanna hear about it, especially from KoK, as these BG stuff goings wrong is partly their faults.

Example 

 We know that  

 Bg power from level 1-30 is a vision of 

Tn=5(BG level)^2+15(BG level) + X

but X is not static, it change from 70 to over 1000 from BG 1 to 30. these proof that the formula is either wrong( as in not arithmetic) or not properly found out.  

Stop bragging that you know BG, and have Some ''secrets'' or some ''fancy'' BG ''masters'' in your league. your bragging is not helping anyone its just plain confusing people. If you have something to say, rather say it, or if its your league ''secret'' which everyone knows about, then keep quit about it. But if you want to debate these topic then please feel free to do so, and in the process help many people. maybe debunk my theories. But please don't brag. 

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Its not a trick per say, As far as i heard it, just a rouse. I wonder why you thought It will work 

Don't pretend you have any idea what it is or how it works - you don't. You started a thread that said no one knows anything remember.

And I think it works cause I have used it 25-30 times (once for me and then helping league mates and allies). It's not a theory or an idea it's a thing :)

Unfortunately you have to get to a certain size to run the trick (well to run it effectively), which limits the number of people that have used it.

And you know what really puts the icing on the cake. The BG mechanic that makes it possible - Plarium swear blind it doesn't exist - cause BG's are "working as intended" which losely translated means Plarium don't have a clue anymore how they work. People that understood the code have long since left the company I suspect.

so I have a few questions...

What is the certain size needed to run the "trick"?

Furthermore...are there any sapphires required to run the "trick"?

no disrespect djmoody but you can't say theres a "trick" to get massive amounts of troop power and leave it a mystery and leave people guessing and wondering....

If you can't provide more information then I call BS and think your making up shit just to hype up BG's

In my opinion the only real value in BG's is nothing more than a way to get lower tier troops aka pikeman/pals/archers/knights/golems into necros/dragons/ect ect.... 

yes you do farm mooncoins and equipment in doing BG's but it is always at a cost of LOSING troop power, not gaining to my knowledge

I enjoy the game just fine... I just don't want people reading this post thinking there is a "magical" way to do BG's and earn 30-50million FREE troop power and get "tricked" ( no pun intended) into putting all their efforts and receiving no rewards and losing all their troops.

If you have proof that a "trick" exists to receiving "FREE" troop power then show me, don't give me bullshit about "I can't tell you because then everyone will know the secret and I wont have an advantage anymore"

if that is the case....why bring it up in the first place?

btw "they" aka "coiners" don't play this game for enjoyment they play this game because of addiction and money spent.

brunsonthomas said:

This is a Free game. Everything in it is useless outside the game except the friends you make in it. The money you spend on things in the game make it easier to play but cannot leave the game. Free 30 to 50 million strength I am afraid is a story. At the very least to achieve such an end you would need over 100 million force to start with.

True BrunsonThomas it is a free game... but no offense your not the one who has stated "yes there is a current BG trick that can deliver 30-50m free troop power. You can write silly posts based on your zero degree of knowledge saying there aren't but it won't change the fact there is." and that  "I tricked my account for 80m free power under the old trick - so there is evidence somewhere on the forums also."

whats the point the saying that "At the very least to achieve such an end you would need over 100 million force to start with."

that's like saying it takes money to make money... noone cares about that I want to know how to make money without having it in the first place.

If I had 100million troop power TRUST me, I would not be worried about "FREE" stuff because my credit card can handle the rest.

So I ask again is there a way to use BG's to make 30-50million "Free" troop power, or are u guys just busting peoples nutz?

p.s. Im just curious is all, please dont take offense all you "coiners" we need you :D <>

Thank you for the reply DJMoody!

I will take your initial advice and won't do BG's other than the reasons that I have stated previous.

I don't believe this "Free"  troop power "trick" exists and I am not one to look for a needle in a haystack

Edit: I deleted some stuff, before I sounded like a child who is mad about bg's/coiners and that was not my intention XD

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Thank you for the reply DJMoody!

I will take your initial advice and won't do BG's other than the reasons that I have stated previous.

I don't believe this "Free"  troop power "trick" exists and I am not one to look for a needle in a haystack

Edit: I deleted some stuff, before I sounded like a child who is mad about bg's/coiners and that was not my intention XD

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djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Its not a trick per say, As far as i heard it, just a rouse. I wonder why you thought It will work 

Don't pretend you have any idea what it is or how it works - you don't. You started a thread that said no one knows anything remember.

And I think it works cause I have used it 25-30 times (once for me and then helping league mates and allies). It's not a theory or an idea it's a thing :)

Unfortunately you have to get to a certain size to run the trick (well to run it effectively), which limits the number of people that have used it.

And you know what really puts the icing on the cake. The BG mechanic that makes it possible - Plarium swear blind it doesn't exist - cause BG's are "working as intended" which losely translated means Plarium don't have a clue anymore how they work. People that understood the code have long since left the company I suspect.

DJ these is not a threat about you or your league, and a BG trick that everybody knows about and then you pretend otherwise so that you can just fancy, and brag people out. 

Its not a BG are not working threat, its a BG alternative theory Bg, for those who feels like the current BG theory are not working for them, or are not conclusive enough to guarantee a 100% win. 

So if you have any other, ''trick'' I don't wanna hear about it, especially from KoK, as these BG stuff goings wrong is partly their faults.

Example 

 We know that  

 Bg power from level 1-30 is a vision of 

Tn=5(BG level)^2+15(BG level) + X

but X is not static, it change from 70 to over 1000 from BG 1 to 30. these proof that the formula is either wrong( as in not arithmetic) or not properly found out.  

Stop bragging that you know BG, and have Some ''secrets'' or some ''fancy'' BG ''masters'' in your league. your bragging is not helping anyone its just plain confusing people. If you have something to say, rather say it, or if its your league ''secret'' which everyone knows about, then keep quit about it. But if you want to debate these topic then please feel free to do so, and in the process help many people. maybe debunk my theories. But please don't brag. 

DJ these is not a threat about you or your league, and a BG trick that everybody knows about and then you pretend otherwise so that you can just fancy, and brag people out.

Dj Moody said 

You tried to post like you knew something about BG's when in actuality you are clueless.
You tried to make out that no one knows anything about BGs. That is simply not true. 

Anyone who have spend 30 min chatting with me knows, that I will in that 30 min ask more than 3 times ''how do you BG'', i have letters from more than 25 friendly players in the BG ranking, and all of them gave me advice with regards to BG, one of which i have posted here not long ago. So yes I am clueless, like those 25 players, whom admitted to me the are clueless too. The only person who is saying he has a clue about BG are members of the KoK, who have so far done nothing but troll these post with, that is a lie, that is not a true,, and have not in anyway tried to justify their claims. whether that is being ''helpful'' I can't be the judge. 

Dj Moody said 

Your post is dangerous as it potentially confuses the players even more.

I totally agree with you, your post are dangerous. In any debate, opinions are debunked with facts, as so far you have not done so, you only posted a bomb that would not be useful to anyone doing BG higher than 60, and having a moderate offence power, (its not 100 mil according to my sources). 

Debunk these ''confusions'' with facts. 

Jumy post a BG calculator, you simply say its incorrect, and false, why you don't tell, Even jumy BG troop counts and Lord Mark advice, you just said they are not true. You never said why.

In fact I have never heard any advice from you in regards with BG, other than ''correct'', ''not true'' comments. 

Dj Moody said 

As you will know I quite often debunk incorrect information posted about BG's. In this case I simply came into your thread to show that everything you wrote was utterly incorrect and false. 

So yes I do belong in this thread and will be involve myself in any future thread where misinformation is passed out (whether intentionally or unintentionally).

I have never seen any proof of you debunking anything in these forum, other than you calling people out and writing assays, saying something is not true. 

I have learned that , when i said Emperors have a paypal, but it wasn't used for buying hammer, initially, but for reviving.

You just say something is not true, but never say how or why, with facts, like images, formulas or anything like that. 

Solidarius said:

Thank you for the reply DJMoody!

I will take your initial advice and won't do BG's other than the reasons that I have stated previous.

I don't believe this "Free"  troop power "trick" exists and I am not one to look for a needle in a haystack

Edit: I deleted some stuff, before I sounded like a child who is mad about bg's/coiners and that was not my intention XD

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The free troop sysstem is version of the old BG cheat bug, before Plarium changed BG system in a major way. Although these time its more complicated, but if you ask arround in game you might hear of it.