Khaleesi said:

That player that changed his name to test wife didn`t know about test wife situation and when Aaron mentioned he changed it. So this kinda a messed up under the belt hit from test. 

Okey our member did a mistake that he didnt know of. But doing a trolling in a forum is not the way to take it, and test only takes what he can get out of this. Is simply cowardly.

I hope his wife get well sooner then later, and I feel sorry for him for what he have to deal with in RL day after day. But there is no excuse to take this act out in a forum, he can simple talk with Aaron.

And this "war" with Destiny is only because they protect the game troll Roftie, but thats a another story.

I tought test was a better person that this, but I`m sorry if he was hurt of this. But if you seen both sides then you can see what he talks about beside his wife is completly bullshit. Destiny have jumps us for weeks, and last night there members Nsane Destiny raid and siege up to 10 of our members. And about the fb thingy is simple, its part of the game. That they have units in there castle at PvP is there problem.

We have a lot of sick ppl in our league with diffrent kinds of sickness and we don`t use other ppl health as an excuse to hit from below the belt, we are strong enough to handle the war simple and use the options the game gives us.

And like I wrote earlier the person that changed his game nick to test`s wife, didn`t know about her sickness and he is very sorry for it. Simple as that.

Now delete this forum msg and go back and play the game the way is should be played..

This mail was sent too test many hours before test made this post. so simple a hit below the belt from test:

[21:17] Zachariah : I had no idea your wife was ill. If I had, that name never would have been used. My apologies for what in retrospect was in poor taste. Aaron told me about it, as well as your captain, NSane. Aaron ordered me to change it, but knowing what I know now, I'd have done so anyway.

Zach

So, Zachariah didn't know Test's wife is sick.  Zachariah must have just randomly, out of the blue, decided to change his name to Test's Wife and move his castle next to Test's as a taunting technique then.

Either Zachariah is lying about not knowing Test's situation (wait a minute... Knights Templar tells lies???) or he is just really pathetic at taunting.

just sayin

Sir Crusher said:

Khaleesi said:

That player that changed his name to test wife didn`t know about test wife situation and when Aaron mentioned he changed it. So this kinda a messed up under the belt hit from test. 

Okey our member did a mistake that he didnt know of. But doing a trolling in a forum is not the way to take it, and test only takes what he can get out of this. Is simply cowardly.

I hope his wife get well sooner then later, and I feel sorry for him for what he have to deal with in RL day after day. But there is no excuse to take this act out in a forum, he can simple talk with Aaron.

And this "war" with Destiny is only because they protect the game troll Roftie, but thats a another story.

I tought test was a better person that this, but I`m sorry if he was hurt of this. But if you seen both sides then you can see what he talks about beside his wife is completly bullshit. Destiny have jumps us for weeks, and last night there members Nsane Destiny raid and siege up to 10 of our members. And about the fb thingy is simple, its part of the game. That they have units in there castle at PvP is there problem.

We have a lot of sick ppl in our league with diffrent kinds of sickness and we don`t use other ppl health as an excuse to hit from below the belt, we are strong enough to handle the war simple and use the options the game gives us.

And like I wrote earlier the person that changed his game nick to test`s wife, didn`t know about her sickness and he is very sorry for it. Simple as that.

Now delete this forum msg and go back and play the game the way is should be played..

This mail was sent too test many hours before test made this post. so simple a hit below the belt from test:

[21:17] Zachariah : I had no idea your wife was ill. If I had, that name never would have been used. My apologies for what in retrospect was in poor taste. Aaron told me about it, as well as your captain, NSane. Aaron ordered me to change it, but knowing what I know now, I'd have done so anyway.

Zach

So, Zachariah didn't know Test's wife is sick.  Zachariah must have just randomly, out of the blue, decided to change his name to Test's Wife and move his castle next to Test's as a taunting technique then.

Either Zachariah is lying about not knowing Test's situation (wait a minute... Knights Templar tells lies???) or he is just really pathetic at taunting.

just sayin

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Grow a pair mr Crusher, time to finish that kindergarden, your a grown man now

Oh looky looky.  Knights Templar insults keep on flying when they get caught in lies.  You may not know this Khaleesi, probably because most Knights Templar players I've encountered are pretty clueless, but I've been playing this game a LONG time and have had a lot of really awful things said to me, so I hope you don't think you're anything special, because you aren't.  It's just the same old song and dance you guys put on everytime.  The game has evolved.  When will you?

Khaleesi said:

That player that changed his name to test wife didn`t know about test wife situation and when Aaron mentioned he changed it. So this kinda a messed up under the belt hit from test. 

Okey our member did a mistake that he didnt know of. But doing a trolling in a forum is not the way to take it, and test only takes what he can get out of this. Is simply cowardly.

I hope his wife get well sooner then later, and I feel sorry for him for what he have to deal with in RL day after day. But there is no excuse to take this act out in a forum, he can simple talk with Aaron.

And this "war" with Destiny is only because they protect the game troll Roftie, but thats a another story.

I tought test was a better person that this, but I`m sorry if he was hurt of this. But if you seen both sides then you can see what he talks about beside his wife is completly bullshit. Destiny have jumps us for weeks, and last night there members Nsane Destiny raid and siege up to 10 of our members. And about the fb thingy is simple, its part of the game. That they have units in there castle at PvP is there problem.

We have a lot of sick ppl in our league with diffrent kinds of sickness and we don`t use other ppl health as an excuse to hit from below the belt, we are strong enough to handle the war simple and use the options the game gives us.

And like I wrote earlier the person that changed his game nick to test`s wife, didn`t know about her sickness and he is very sorry for it. Simple as that.

Now delete this forum msg and go back and play the game the way is should be played..

This mail was sent too test many hours before test made this post. so simple a hit below the belt from test:

[21:17] Zachariah : I had no idea your wife was ill. If I had, that name never would have been used. My apologies for what in retrospect was in poor taste. Aaron told me about it, as well as your captain, NSane. Aaron ordered me to change it, but knowing what I know now, I'd have done so anyway.

Zach

"That player that changed his name to test wife didn`t know about test wife situation and when Aaron mentioned he changed it. So this kinda a messed up under the belt hit from test. "

Let's get down to the most basic part of the issue here.  

This is a war game, and people play a war game, your raids and fireballs have had no effect on us, so your next point of attack was to take it from a game level, to a personal level, which included teleporting right next to me and BRINGING MY WIFE into the situation.  So regardless of my wife's health, you have taken this game to an entirely new level of personal attacks.

"Okey our member did a mistake that he didnt know of. But doing a trolling in a forum is not the way to take it, and test only takes what he can get out of this. Is simply cowardly."

Go ahead and explain how bringing someones wife into a war game is honorable and not cowardly.  

 "Destiny have jumps us for weeks, and last night there members Nsane Destiny raid and siege up to 10 of our members."

You make fun of my wife,  then act all surprised and call us bullies for retaliating against what you have done that is so entirely personal. Let me remind you that till you DECLARED WAR with Destiny, no other Destiny members (outside of our new member Rofite) were attacking your league with the purpose of war before you did that.  You guys brought our relationship to a war level because you DECLARED WAR with us.  Don't complain that we attack back when you do something like that.  

Roftie was the only person hitting you before then, and apparently his hatred for KT goes back many months if not a year BEFORE joining Destiny.  I am really starting to know why he dislikes KT3 so much.

"We have a lot of sick ppl in our league with diffrent kinds of sickness and we don`t use other ppl health as an excuse to hit from below the belt, we are strong enough to handle the war simple and use the options the game gives us."

The major difference here is that Destiny isn't teleporting around the map, next to your players that are going through personal life stuff and openly making fun of it, we are purely playing a game by raiding, sieging, and fireballing.  HUGE difference.

"And like I wrote earlier the person that changed his game nick to test`s wife, didn`t know about her sickness and he is very sorry for it. Simple as that."

So you're saying that by completely random chance, this person knew an intimate detail about my life, one that everyone else knows comes with a very tough situation and he just simply states that he had no idea about it?  

A moderator who can see the forums and check time of the posts, please correct me if I'm wrong on this next subject.

That's almost as bad a "coincidence" of when someone got into Aarons house, (did nothing to the house), logged on his computer (did nothing else to his computer or any other game he may or may not play as far as I know), and knew the intimate details and relationships of Stormfall so well that they makd a post from the account "Friction", and then went over to Aaron and respond to the same post.  A person that as far as I can guess, never used troops to even play the game, just simply logged on, made a few posts, then logged off?  Look at the time BETWEEN POSTS:

Friction posted @ 19 January, 2016, 6:21 PM UTC, 

Aaron posted @ 20 January, 2016, 7:09 PM UTC

Both from the same IP address

Aaron, are you claming that someone was sitting on your computer without your knowledge for that long and made those "random" posts....really?  

I can only assume that post was even made because of his apparent hatred for Destiny, which is a big part of why I believe this "random act from a kt member in Aarons league against test's wife" looks like another attack at both Destiny and more importantly myself and my personal situation.

Aaron KT1 said:

Even better when I go rouge and start in on Destiny beacons.

"This mail was sent too test many hours before test made this post. so simple a hit below the belt from test:"

Since your making the claim, I'll let you back it up.  

Now that I am on my account, the only letter that I see being sent to me was from Dave of KT1 http://prntscr.com/9vibx7 and I will note that it was sent 30 minutes before I made this post.  Dave, I appreciate your letter and words.  

There has been nothing sent to me from anyone in KT3.  

From our leadership chat on FB, I had received the SS of what happened and didn't need to be in the game in order to make this post on the forums.

I have broken down your response line by line as I have always done for KT's posts and tried to take the emotion out of the conversation and stick to facts.

Khaleesi said:

My game will never fall down on your stage with insults,throwing dirt at other ppl in a forum, I rather stick with fb`s and raids. At least those is part of the game. 

I think you mean your game will never rise to my stage.  I'll expect a raid on my kindergarten then since you don't 'lower yourself' with insults.  Have a super dee duper day!

Kvothe said:

On another topic, are you sure you are only at war with KT3?  Recently Johnsss told me that they are one league and if you attack one you attack them all.

ETA: Aaron denying being a part of this is pretty rich considering his getting caught in a lie on these forums just a week ago.

If Johnsss is stating that since KT3 has already declared war on Destiny, that all of KT has declared war on Destiny.  Then I guess KT has started war with the coralition again.

When real life  is brought into a game you bring in personal issues

and ruins people gaming experience,

 Im not sure how this all took place or why someone would go to that particular extent to hurt someone

it's cruel and the form of the lowest gaming you can do, 

Just proves to me some people have no dignity, 

With do all respect test, you are better off ignoring the drama they are trying to break you in the lowest way

giving them the attention in the forums maybe what they where hoping....many here know it's wrong

just keep your head up 

and keep your wife spirit high, that's what counts 

not some kid on a gaming net with a low self esteem trying to break someone else by bring up real life issues 

Blasphemy said:

When real life  is brought into a game you bring in personal issues

and ruins people gaming experience,

 Im not sure how this all took place or why someone would go to that particular extent to hurt someone

it's cruel and the form of the lowest gaming you can do, 

Just proves to me some people have no dignity, 

With do all respect test, you are better off ignoring the drama they are trying to break you in the lowest way

giving them the attention in the forums maybe what they where hoping....many here know it's wrong

just keep your head up 

and keep your wife spirit high, that's what counts 

not some kid on a gaming net with a low self esteem trying to break someone else by bring up real life issues 

I get your stance Blasphemy and it makes sense.  My goal is to bring to light the things that people are doing against Destiny, and then claiming we are "bullies", as you saw Kallisi do earlier in the fourms naming Nsane as the instigator, instead of the person retaliating due to KT3's personal attacks on myself.

My first reaction to what had gone on was certainly a knee-jerk type one, but at the end of the day, no one but me is in control of my own emotions.  People can continue to poke and prod as they want, but I get to determine how I feel about it.

DaveKT1 has mentioned he doesn't condone the actions which I can appreciate and respect - but the actions have been done and have continued since the "situation" where Aarons computer was used by someone else.

Again, just bringing light to what KT leadership (marshal of KT3 and whatever other players are involved) and their league is doing to both Destiny and myself personally.

test said:

Kvothe said:

On another topic, are you sure you are only at war with KT3?  Recently Johnsss told me that they are one league and if you attack one you attack them all.

ETA: Aaron denying being a part of this is pretty rich considering his getting caught in a lie on these forums just a week ago.

If Johnsss is stating that since KT3 has already declared war on Destiny, that all of KT has declared war on Destiny.  Then I guess KT has started war with the coralition again.

I don't have confirmation one way or another, but from my talks with Dave, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Well as it would turn out, I tend to keep dealings with them saved due to their issues "remembering" deals that they have made...

http://prntscr.com/9vqlok

http://prntscr.com/9vqegr

This whole thing is messed up Anarchy will throw some punches in game at these foul doings ANARCHY fire up the war machines !!!!

aaronschneider said:

How about a little TRUTH from YOU test?

The offending player sent you an apology many hours before you decided to make your first post. He did this as soon as he was made aware of you wife's illness, and as you yourself had said, MOST people in the game had no knowledge.

http://prntscr.com/9vqq20

For those to lazy, indifferent, or stuck on the "party line", it is reproduced below. It also went to your Captain NSane as he was the first person to bring the illness to my players attention. [21:17] Zachariah : I had no idea your wife was ill. If I had, that name never would have been used. My apologies for what in retrospect was in poor taste. Aaron told me about it, as well as your captain, NSane. Aaron ordered me to change it, but knowing what I know now, I'd have done so anyway. Zach 

[Above cut and pasted from another thread.]

As an FYI, due to the perceived widespread hatred of you, test, the guy simply thought it would be funny to have even your wife attacking you.  He knew nothing of the illness.

I drew it to his attention, as did your captain, NSane.   http://prntscr.com/9vqy6j   Look at the time stamps.  He apologized right away.

As for me, I have inquired about your wife's health and commiserated with you regularly.  I never said a thing to my league because that was your private business.

I'm not going to say you never received the apology, as I well know a busy marshal has many PMs run right off the list often before even seen. (Plarium has a limit for storage).  In any case, neither KT3, nor Zach, nor myself have in any way intended you personal grief or mocked you wife's illness.

Hopeful you'll realize this and for what it is, unfortunate, but not deliberate.

If it means anything to you, I apologize for the whole mess.

Aaron

I didn't recieve the letter - after talking with Skycooldude on TS, he showed me a copy (your link here comes up with error 404 for some reason), and after looking at time stamps it is true that he did indeed send the letter AFTER THE FACT of attacking me with her. 

I have realized the Zach player was blacklisted on my account so it never made it to my inbox to read.  So yes, I may have been incorrect in saying that he never sent it to me, but on the flip-side, I never received it.

"the guy simply thought it would be funny to have even your wife attacking you."

For someone to think it would be funny if my "wife" attacked me means that someone told that player I had a wife.  

Whoever told that player I had a wife, also knew that she has been very sick for a long time.  

So the fact that someone would "set up" a situation and tell that player I'm married and laugh along side him while he attacked me with my "wife" as a castle means that that person has some serious soul searching and issues to deal with.

And that brings me right back back to my original premise of KT using the TACTIC to bring MY WIFE into the game, where she, or anyone else's significant other for that matter (unless they play this game with their spouse) has no business being.

Again, why has KT stooped SO LOW to bring my wife into this game, is beyond me.

edit - http://prntscr.com/9vrto9

Test

Speaking as someone who has lost a wife i know you are pee'd off.

I am KT and I have NOT stooped that low.

Be as angry as you need to be, BUT aim that anger at the person who done it.

MY prayers to you, your wife and all your family.

Stewart_KT1 said:

Test

Speaking as someone who has lost a wife i know you are pee'd off.

I am KT and I have NOT stooped that low.

Be as angry as you need to be, BUT aim that anger at the person who done it.

MY prayers to you, your wife and all your family.

Thanks for the kind words Stewart.  Much appreciated.   I had no idea about your loss.  My prayers are with you and yours too.

My thread is about KT leadership (Aaron) declaring war with Destiny - and the tactics that they are using against us in the war they declared.  Regardless of the "reason" why Zach did what he did, doesn't change the fact that KT3 declared war with Destiny and then their membership under orders of being at war with Destiny decided to bring my wife into the situation as one of their tactics.

Without going too far off topic here I'd like to address the background which makes this situation what it is today:

KT's representation on the forums for the past year (mostly Friction) has both flamed and used defamation against myself personally and Destiny for over a year now. Since that type of action was not stopped by KT, means that it was "acceptable" behavior from KT leadership.

This current issue is just one more thing on a long list of things that KT has done time and time again while we have been at war with each other.

Go ahead and read the forums and then try to point out how many hateful or demeaning posts I have started a thread on to show how horrible KT is (outside of these recent string of threads).

KT has created many posts doing that very thing to both myself and Destiny for a very long time.

I understand there is new leadership in KT now, and that means we potentially have an opportunity to re-visit our relationship with you guys like we have done in the past with KoK and KoC who we were also once at war with.   Things were done and accepted by KT leadership for a long period of time (over a year) and those in KT that run things now were there then, and stood behind the actions that were done in the past because nothing was done to stop it till after the war for territory was sorted.

Disrespect???   Mudslinging??? Hurting Tests feelings???  Deception...?? pure propaganda!!!!

I've seen it all.... checked it all..... TEST....... I gave you the foothold into KT.... TRUSTED YOU... thought you were ok.... but... you're a joke... a liar .. a deceitful 'number two'

This whole business about your wife (UNFORTUNATE YOU TOOK OFFENCE, I KNOW IT WAS NOT INTENDED BY ZACHARIAH OF KT3... I even put my name to that statement)

Aaron went above and beyond to 'make it right'...        (because that's the way we are)

Infact we had a HUGE discussion over the merits of RIGHT AND WRONG in KT 1 through to ''all of em''.... (because that's the way we are)

enough is enough Test..... cut the sht.... it was a genuine mistake... stop playing the 'victim card'... people aren't stupid...

(Try something else... this isn't politics... )

Mal