Clueless said:

Whaaa, whaaa, whaaa, etc....

The kiddie games are over and now, the REAL WAR begins!!

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So ..  Proof LotBR is more than just Bob.  

And here is current .. not yet made pretty yet.  Sorry.  (I see I have not yet updated the dates on one below) .. that will read 23rd - Aug 6th, 

Maybe I should have stayed at BR when I had the chance. A bad decision on my part I guise.  

But seriously these is something else

Is a good thing I didn't receive the message. 

Optimus Prime said:

I have never considered myself as one who enjoys drama but I must admit I am enjoying myself in this war. It is true that the war has reached a 'stall' period. LOBR has not done any major raids on any RA castles. The attacks on Friend and Techway in the hamlets happened BEFORE the war started.

The one thing LOBR is not understanding is that no RA league is currently attempting to hold any beacons. No one is celebrating over the beacon 'pong' of beacons going back and forth between leagues with no deff in them. Although Mad Ted claims LOBR didnt defend any beacons, they did have a few with strong numbers of deff in them which was taken at the start of the war.

Did KTR need to consult KT before attacking LOBR? Simply NO. We intended to keep it confidential. No one knew it was gonna happen until it was already over. We just simply picked up with DD and all other leagues who were being insulted. I base my reason for this war on how LOBR has acted towards my league.

I am not concerned with others. Those that share my feelings are part of the RA. I guess everyone has their opinion, opinions are after all like ass holes, everyone has one. LOBR should stop bragging about what is going on. From what I have seen, they dont even understand what has transpired or what is to come. LOBR hasnt shown me that they know tactics or strategy, all they know is how to spread lies, conspiracies, false accusations, and use mind games to make others believe them. They should stop playing the game and go into politics were they would fit in better.

I applaud Mad Ted for his efforts. He makes claims about what the RA is 'not' doing in hopes they will do what he is prepared for. Did I boast wrongly? What about the 200+ mil that KTR wiped out from LOBR beacons when the war started? I doubt he will admit that. It will become another lie or twisted into another conspiracy using false reports. Keep trying, it looks like you have your own league fooled at least Teddy bear lol.

History does not remember those who were winning in the middle of a war, only the outcome. However, LOBR like history, is always establishing what is fact from agreed upon lies. We may not win, but it will be a lot of fun lol. Be patient my friends, its only just begun!!

    First, there wasn't a single beacon with 200+ million in it when KTR attacked. The largest beacon was the one I was holding myself and it only had 110 million of my defense in it. 

  Secondly, we do not need to DO anything. We are defending 2 beacons and a fort and are sitting in the number one position. What is it that you think we "need" to be doing? 

  LOTBR has been "at war" since I took over shortly after server two started. Our members are under a constant state of attack and have always been. This is the style of play most members in my league appreciate. You can claim no skill or tactics, but we are the only league that has fought multiple leagues at a time from the beginning. 

I have never considered myself as one who enjoys drama but I must admit I am enjoying myself in this war. It is true that the war has reached a 'stall' period. LOBR has not done any major raids on any RA castles. The attacks on Friend and Techway in the hamlets happened BEFORE the war started.

The one thing LOBR is not understanding is that no RA league is currently attempting to hold any beacons. No one is celebrating over the beacon 'pong' of beacons going back and forth between leagues with no deff in them. Although Mad Ted claims LOBR didnt defend any beacons, they did have a few with strong numbers of deff in them which was taken at the start of the war.

Did KTR need to consult KT before attacking LOBR? Simply NO. We intended to keep it confidential. No one knew it was gonna happen until it was already over. We just simply picked up with DD and all other leagues who were being insulted. I base my reason for this war on how LOBR has acted towards my league.

I am not concerned with others. Those that share my feelings are part of the RA. I guess everyone has their opinion, opinions are after all like ass holes, everyone has one. LOBR should stop bragging about what is going on. From what I have seen, they dont even understand what has transpired or what is to come. LOBR hasnt shown me that they know tactics or strategy, all they know is how to spread lies, conspiracies, false accusations, and use mind games to make others believe them. They should stop playing the game and go into politics were they would fit in better.

I applaud Mad Ted for his efforts. He makes claims about what the RA is 'not' doing in hopes they will do what he is prepared for. Did I boast wrongly? What about the 200+ mil that KTR wiped out from LOBR beacons when the war started? I doubt he will admit that. It will become another lie or twisted into another conspiracy using false reports. Keep trying, it looks like you have your own league fooled at least Teddy bear lol.

History does not remember those who were winning in the middle of a war, only the outcome. However, LOBR like history, is always establishing what is fact from agreed upon lies. We may not win, but it will be a lot of fun lol. Be patient my friends, its only just begun!!

Tsar said

To present yourself as a victim and complain about injustices that don't exist is plain nonsensical. This is a war game. Despite the large array of benefits that come with players who decide to spend an extensive amount of money on the game, it is simply not needed. Leagues are able to go far with straightforward common sense and strategy.

First, I am not claiming to be victim of anything.  Certainly not a victim of any LOBR caused casualties.  You haven't hurt me one bit.  So I don't see why I would make the claim of victim.



Second, when you have Bob's billion strategy isn't really necessary.  But your arrogance acts like BR is so far superior in their tactical and planning abilities than all other leagues when in reality, nobody can or will match Bob's spending habit.  Sorry Tsar, you're a pawn in Bob's game just like we all are; you just happen to be on his team.  Leagues go as far as Bob lets them.

To go on about alliances, while you threaten other leagues to join your cause or face annihilation, or how about presenting the action to back up "Major Plans against LOTBR" My guess is that you'll slip that information under the rug along with all the other little bits that contradict your claims...

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have made no threats to other leagues and have attempted to gain zero alliances with new leagues since this began. We're just doing the same thing as we've always done. I think you are confusing my league with another league. It's possible that BR isn't the only league doing this (evidence presented.....your own letter) but you cannot accuse KTR of forcing, tricking or coercing any league into anything. We will work with those leagues who choose for themselves to fight against you. Makes no difference to me who they are. You are simply incorrect in your accusation.  

Propaganda and heavily subjective perspectives, littered with bias interpretations of events/actions...

The hypocrisy of the Rebel Alliance...

First and foremost, congratulations on being able to take numerous empty beacons, Clueless. Only one of which actually had any 'decent' defence placed in it. To present yourself as a victim and complain about injustices that don't exist is plain nonsensical. This is a war game. Despite the large array of benefits that come with players who decide to spend an extensive amount of money on the game, it is simply not needed. Leagues are able to go far with straightforward common sense and strategy. I am glad you say that you're having fun! Because that is the purpose of the game... Entertainment! But to openly display false statements such as "LOTBR hiding behind their allies" is down right unacceptable. We have been leading this entire 'war' before it even began... Want to explain to me where over 500 million KT defence went? To go on about alliances, while you threaten other leagues to join your cause or face annihilation, or how about presenting the action to back up "Major Plans against LOTBR" My guess is that you'll slip that information under the rug along with all the other little bits that contradict your claims...

Although spending money on this game is NOT a necessity, I would hope that you have enough brain power to realise that this is a pay-to-win game... You should know that an individual who decides to invest money into the game will have an advantage over you... But you don't mention that either do you? So when your league faces another and you are stronger, that isn't considered 'bullying', just superiority... There are two outcomes in regards to victory, and the strongest survives. Despite the 'interesting' politics and absurd morality/ethics that are poured into the game by delusional players, this game is about fighting! And the strongest of the fighters, emerges as the victor.

This fundamental truth of the game can be summarised within a simple narrative:

"Imagine three great nations under three great queens. The first queen writes a great book of law and her rule is just. The second queen builds a high tower and her people climb it to see the stars. The third queen raises an army and conquers everything.

The future belongs to one of these queens. Her rule is harshest and people are unhappy. But she rules.

Of course, it might be that there was another country, with other queens, and in this country they sat down together and made one law and one tower and one army to guard their borders. This is the dream of small minds: a gentle place ringed in spears.

But I do not think those spears will hold against the queen of the country of armies. And that is all that will matter in the end."

All the diplomacy, lies and games hide the objective truth, regarding the utter failure and lunacy of your cause. Have fun spreading false rumours and sniggering behind our backs, but if you continue to fight us, fight us with everything you have, with all your laws and games. We will prove our argument thus.

Dailach said:

"and I guess to clueless we are arrogant. And in truth, to him we are … cause it's fun. It annoys him so well."

You don't annoy me at all.  All Windwalker's boasting of all the spies and screenshots of my league messages from his spies don't even ruffle a single feather.  While you're playing your "war game" by running alts and spying on leagues and writing manifestos to intimidate people I am doing the same thing I've been doing since I started playing the game - having fun.  Actually, I enjoy the game MORE now so to you I say thank you.

You're welcome for the help on your recruiting poster.  May I suggest an image and a catchy attention grabbing phrase like "Come join LOBR, where we will use charts and TeamSpeak to mold you into something great"

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Stray Dog said:

The kiddie games are over and now, the REAL WAR begins!!

Clueless,

Don't exaggerate. 90 million loss in the beacon you hit.  The others had like 2-3 mil in them each.  Congrats on your taking a beacon I guess.  

I do want to thank you for your press release regarding our league.  It was something I have been meaning to do myself, sell some of the features of our league for recruitment.  Yes, we raid at will!  Yes, we get the lion's share of rewards from League events!  We average 16,000 Sapphires a month for our members.  Not to mention troops, resources, skull runes and more Lovar's Blessings than we can sell.  Yes, we have beacons with DE. Yes, we have the highest fortress on the server, with the highest buffs. It is always fun to see the reactions of new members when they reach that seventh day timer. BAM! Super nice boost to their offense/defense.

You failed to mention the ridiculous numbers of league chest we get. Seriously, I have 200x 100,000 irons. We also use TeamSpeak to communicate, train members and have fun! We even have members from other leagues join us for training in there. This is a great way to meet new people. We are a league of people who want to have fun playing a war game, and I guess to clueless we are arrogant. And in truth, to him we are … cause it's fun. It annoys him so well. His banter with Windwalker is worth the ticket into our league by itself.

But seriously, if anyone wants to get to know us, away from all the craziness that is the forum banter or back-handed insults, please come join us in TeamSpeak. We would love to meet you.

The arrogance of the BR players is astounding.  For over a year you have been allowed to act as pirates, raiding at will with little or no return attacks to castles, fortesses or beacons.  You've benefitted from massive league tourney rewards, large amounts of DE and higher levels of league knowledge.  You claim superiority like it's been earned.  Well, in truth, it has.  But not by you.  It's been earned by Bob.  You are all riding his spending habit like a toddler on daddy's back.  He and his alts have outspent any league.  We all know Bob can and does do as he pleases. 

Leagues cater to Bob.  Without Bob, LOBR is nothing special.  But since they have him and his unlimited spending they can tout whatever claims they wish, press whatever buttons they want and make whatever policy they care to.  Everyone knows it.  See the attached letter above regarding the "playground rules."  LOBR has pushed many leagues into dropping alliances with RA leagues by threats of Bob visiting them.  I've lost two allies today as a result of that letter. I find it amusing how all these LOBR players are sitting here acting like it's them that has made LOBR into what they are.  It's always about Bob!  

Black Rose is winning when you look at rankings and number of beacons held.  There are few, if any, leagues that can hold a beacon against Bob but many that can defeat an LOBR without Bob.  But BR is hiding behind all their allies, letting them wear down the RA, because as they have so eloquently and correctly said, they don't have to fight!  They can sit back and do nothing until Bob comes on line.

Both BR and the RA have done nothing impressive in this war.  It's not even a war.  As long as Bob coins at that level you won't see my league hold a beacon.  But that's ok with my league.  We're all having fun.  We don't need a beacon or high rank to feel good about ourselves.  I guess others need that.  So hats off LOBR, you've managed to do absolutely nothing remarkable over the past two months.  And to Bob, you're the MAN!!!  And the WOMAN (MJoan)!!!!!  You sir/ma'am have a very impressive.......credit card!!!

I know, I know......my league hasn't done anything either.  Oh well.  We wouldn't have it any other way.  Afterall, as Teddy says, we are a "training league."  Expectations for us are low, we'll do our best not to exceed them.  8 beacons, ten minutes, 200 mil+ gone Teddy.......by a training league.  All those spies and altsinmy league and you had no clue (talking to you Windwalker..wake up, you were asleep at the wheel!!).  I may be Clueless, but I'm not the clueless one here.  I can leave the game now imagining the look on all your faces when those reports came in.

BTW, how do so many LOBR players have time to comment on this forum with such frequency considering how many alts they have in their own league and in mine?!

well....

bob wouldnt let us stay nuetral. 

so he we go....

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Thomas, 

Thomas, 

Mad Ted threw you under the bus. Said glory raiders asked for the attacks. 

I see two level one beacons held by Dark Phoenix. What happen? Not much of a fight to hold them beacons. 

I see this game heading to ignorance with big offence and no defense to back them up as the good fighter they claim. Need to get the stir out of game before anyone can claim victory. 

cat in the hat said:

I see two level one beacons held by Dark Phoenix. What happen? Not much of a fight to hold them beacons. 

I see this game heading to ignorance with big offence and no defense to back them up as the good fighter they claim. Need to get the stir out of game before anyone can claim victory. 

lesson learned from watching this war play out.

LOTBR cant threaten us with bob if bob doesnt have anything to hit.    now we are free to wage war at castles and fiefs.  and Knock down their beacons.  we killed off 1.2billion beacon defense in about 15 minutes.   lets see how LOTBR handles having their beacons taken and not being able to do anything in return. 

and Thomas.... those are lies straight from Ted's mouth. if you feel like thats propaganda..... you were thrown under the bus.