Tychi said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

Patience, even coining has its limits lol. But when you see what the 'Paypal Account' has done to our hammer I think you gonna wish this never started :D

Honestly all this "War"( would not call it that , just a show of who have the biggest...).is doing is destroying the game for a lot of ppl, league..

Its taking the fun out of it all.. Whats the fun in 2 leagues with big hammer destroying every beacon on the map leaving all without anything. You really think ppl will keep playing?

I know a lot of ppl who chose to stop coz of this. They know they cant do anything without being destroyed either from Destiny side or Eps side.

Well thought i would thow that in here since u show off

And its not even u guys who do the fighting u just knock the door down where is the honour in that? 

All allies leagues from both sides (deleted or not) are the ones battle it out.

Once u run out of beacons to hit what then, turn on allies i suppose? 

This leaves a big questionmark in my book so lets see who can give me a straight honost answer without all the bull about who did what and so on.

R_Warhawk75

Warhawk75 said:

Honestly all this "War"( would not call it that , just a show of who have the biggest...).is doing is destroying the game for a lot of ppl, league..

Its taking the fun out of it all.. Whats the fun in 2 leagues with big hammer destroying every beacon on the map leaving all without anything. You really think ppl will keep playing?

I know a lot of ppl who chose to stop coz of this. They know they cant do anything without being destroyed either from Destiny side or Eps side.

Well thought i would thow that in here since u show off

And its not even u guys who do the fighting u just knock the door down where is the honour in that? 

All allies leagues from both sides (deleted or not) are the ones battle it out.

Once u run out of beacons to hit what then, turn on allies i suppose? 

This leaves a big questionmark in my book so lets see who can give me a straight honost answer without all the bull about who did what and so on.

R_Warhawk75

I agree, the thing is how are the smaller leagues even feeling comfortable in their beacons or are they just oblivious that a big hammer can come in and wipe them out on a whim?  Destiny has never claimed to be a PVP league, Destiny didn't hop around the server attacking small league beacons "for points" weakening them so they could later be taken out by someone else.  If Destiny hit a beacon there was a reason for it and it wasn't PVP.  The actions you have seen are because Emps decided to drop all their beacons to bring the fight to us leaving no Emps beacons for us to hit.  End result Emps saves their defense and the ally leagues and anyone else who jumped in got smacked.  We still have beacons we are waiting for Emps to hit them they haven't yet so I guess we will see what happens next.

Warhawk75 said:

Honestly all this "War"( would not call it that , just a show of who have the biggest...).is doing is destroying the game for a lot of ppl, league..

Its taking the fun out of it all.. Whats the fun in 2 leagues with big hammer destroying every beacon on the map leaving all without anything. You really think ppl will keep playing?

I know a lot of ppl who chose to stop coz of this. They know they cant do anything without being destroyed either from Destiny side or Eps side.

Well thought i would thow that in here since u show off

And its not even u guys who do the fighting u just knock the door down where is the honour in that? 

All allies leagues from both sides (deleted or not) are the ones battle it out.

Once u run out of beacons to hit what then, turn on allies i suppose? 

This leaves a big questionmark in my book so lets see who can give me a straight honost answer without all the bull about who did what and so on.

R_Warhawk75

You can thank you allies the COWARDS for starting the cold war strategy of wiping out all the small guys in order to "hurt" the big ones.

COWARDS are the one that first hit all of Destiny's allies, instead of Destiny.

COWARDS are the ones that ran and hid, dropped their beacons to the Unforgivens and other leagues, then started hitting the UC.

The UC has explained on the forums in multiple threads the detriment to the sever this would cause, and I personally asked you to separate yourself from any ties with Emps if you didn't want to partake in the cold war style of hitting allies that they had started.

You can choose your allies, you knew what would happen if you continued to show your support for them - we have only attacked those leagues that supported the COWARDS or the leagues that have personally attacked us at a beacon level.

The game isn't ruined for everyone - I do agree it's certainly not fun / ruined for those that have chosen to support COWARDS and their cold-war tactics.

And the only thing COWARDS have left to do is brag about the massive amounts of money they are spending and continually un-balancing the game.

Destiny has had a billion hammer for a long time, but it wasn't much of an issue to the server because we didn't use it to go around smacking all sorts of leagues, for all sorts of reasons, and not even wanting / keeping the beacons we took down.  We didn't wipe out beacons just because we could (like COWARDS have done).

It's not just the size of the hammer, but the COWARD that controls it that is causing some major issues on this server.

Warhawk75 said:

Honestly all this "War"( would not call it that , just a show of who have the biggest...).is doing is destroying the game for a lot of ppl, league..

Its taking the fun out of it all.. Whats the fun in 2 leagues with big hammer destroying every beacon on the map leaving all without anything. You really think ppl will keep playing?

I know a lot of ppl who chose to stop coz of this. They know they cant do anything without being destroyed either from Destiny side or Eps side.

Well thought i would thow that in here since u show off

And its not even u guys who do the fighting u just knock the door down where is the honour in that? 

All allies leagues from both sides (deleted or not) are the ones battle it out.

Once u run out of beacons to hit what then, turn on allies i suppose? 

This leaves a big questionmark in my book so lets see who can give me a straight honost answer without all the bull about who did what and so on.

R_Warhawk75

I agree, the thing is how are the smaller leagues even feeling comfortable in their beacons or are they just oblivious that a big hammer can come in and wipe them out on a whim?  Destiny has never claimed to be a PVP league, Destiny didn't hop around the server attacking small league beacons "for points" weakening them so they could later be taken out by someone else.  If Destiny hit a beacon there was a reason for it and it wasn't PVP.  The actions you have seen are because Emps decided to drop all their beacons to bring the fight to us leaving no Emps beacons for us to hit.  End result Emps saves their defense and the ally leagues and anyone else who jumped in got smacked.  We still have beacons we are waiting for Emps to hit them they haven't yet so I guess we will see what happens next.

Personally I am waiting for the "end game" to happen for me, if I lose all my defense I won't continue to play, my offense will be sent somewhere to wipe out as much enemy defense as possible - it won't matter which enemy but where ever it lands it will be for Destiny.

Tychi said:

Are you moaning again?.....About time someone could do something about you wanting to control the server. Everyone knew Destiny were untouchable because of your 1 billion hammer. Well unlucky, someone has a bigger 1 than you and you don't like it. Don't blame Emps for any tactics they have used. They have broken no rules. As for the fun side of things, it's been the best fun in the game for the past 6 months!!. Some actual fighting in a war game. Woohoo!!!

I really haven't seen much fighting from Emps, I am confused.....

We weren't trying to control the server lol that is just silly talk.  "someone has a bigger one"  now that really sounds like someone with small man syndrome :)

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

WE DID, REMEMBER ,YOU HAD 20 BEACONS!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE, you do sound like a desperate , week man> Hahahahahahehe

s.mantegna150 said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

WE DID, REMEMBER ,YOU HAD 20 BEACONS!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE, you do sound like a desperate , week man> Hahahahahahehe

You did not take 20 beacons from us and we have already gone over this time and time again - you hit weak beacons so it is really nothing to brag about.  Who is desperate, seems to me you are desperately looking for reasons not to hit our last two remaining beacons.

Gadheras said:

test said:

Destiny has had a billion hammer for a long time, but it wasn't much of an issue to the server because we didn't use it to go around smacking all sorts of leagues, for all sorts of reasons, and not even wanting / keeping the beacons we took down.  We didn't wipe out beacons just because we could (like COWARDS have done).

It's not just the size of the hammer, but the COWARD that controls it that is causing some major issues on this server.

Players and leagues play the game different based on their own goals and agendas. Just because someone play the game in a different way than you like or do, doesn't make their way the wrong one. They play using the same rules and tools available to them as for everyone else. The given result is not a desired one and it hurt the game as whole, but end of the line its Plarium that enable all this.

To believe in a "fair play" and internet bushido crap, for a game such as this is just.... wrong.

Let me ask Unforgivens a question:

The UC and Unforgivens had a NaP - One Unforgiven league left the NaP, changed their name, gave their beacons to the other members in the NaP, and started hitting all the UC leagues.

Had the COWARDS not done that, do you think the UC would of ever hit the Unforgivens or the COWARDS after spending months building the NaP with everyone?

test said:

Destiny has had a billion hammer for a long time, but it wasn't much of an issue to the server because we didn't use it to go around smacking all sorts of leagues, for all sorts of reasons, and not even wanting / keeping the beacons we took down.  We didn't wipe out beacons just because we could (like COWARDS have done).

It's not just the size of the hammer, but the COWARD that controls it that is causing some major issues on this server.

Players and leagues play the game different based on their own goals and agendas. Just because someone play the game in a different way than you like or do, doesn't make their way the wrong one. They play using the same rules and tools available to them as for everyone else. The given result is not a desired one and it hurt the game as whole, but end of the line its Plarium that enable all this.

Warhawk75 said:

Honestly all this "War"( would not call it that , just a show of who have the biggest...).is doing is destroying the game for a lot of ppl, league..

Its taking the fun out of it all.. Whats the fun in 2 leagues with big hammer destroying every beacon on the map leaving all without anything. You really think ppl will keep playing?

I know a lot of ppl who chose to stop coz of this. They know they cant do anything without being destroyed either from Destiny side or Eps side.

Well thought i would thow that in here since u show off

And its not even u guys who do the fighting u just knock the door down where is the honour in that? 

All allies leagues from both sides (deleted or not) are the ones battle it out.

Once u run out of beacons to hit what then, turn on allies i suppose? 

This leaves a big questionmark in my book so lets see who can give me a straight honost answer without all the bull about who did what and so on.

R_Warhawk75

You can thank you allies the COWARDS for starting the cold war strategy of wiping out all the small guys in order to "hurt" the big ones.

COWARDS are the one that first hit all of Destiny's allies, instead of Destiny.

COWARDS are the ones that ran and hid, dropped their beacons to the Unforgivens and other leagues, then started hitting the UC.

The UC has explained on the forums in multiple threads the detriment to the sever this would cause, and I personally asked you to separate yourself from any ties with Emps if you didn't want to partake in the cold war style of hitting allies that they had started.

You can choose your allies, you knew what would happen if you continued to show your support for them - we have only attacked those leagues that supported the COWARDS or the leagues that have personally attacked us at a beacon level.

The game isn't ruined for everyone - I do agree it's certainly not fun / ruined for those that have chosen to support COWARDS and their cold-war tactics.

And the only thing COWARDS have left to do is brag about the massive amounts of money they are spending and continually un-balancing the game.

Destiny has had a billion hammer for a long time, but it wasn't much of an issue to the server because we didn't use it to go around smacking all sorts of leagues, for all sorts of reasons, and not even wanting / keeping the beacons we took down.  We didn't wipe out beacons just because we could (like COWARDS have done).

It's not just the size of the hammer, but the COWARD that controls it that is causing some major issues on this server.

test said:

Tychi said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

Patience, even coining has its limits lol. But when you see what the 'Paypal Account' has done to our hammer I think you gonna wish this never started :D

This confirms we're in the right thread - once again Tychi, all talk and no fight...maybe someday COWARDS will do something worth taking note of other than bragging about the massive amounts of money they are spending in order to attempt to claim some sort of "victory", lol.

I suppose (and this goes for anyone spending big), once you comit and might take a high toll. You start realise wtf you spent all that cash on. The more get invested into something the more afraid you will be for actually lose of it.

Tychi said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

Patience, even coining has its limits lol. But when you see what the 'Paypal Account' has done to our hammer I think you gonna wish this never started :D

This confirms we're in the right thread - once again Tychi, all talk and no fight...maybe someday COWARDS will do something worth taking note of other than bragging about the massive amounts of money they are spending in order to attempt to claim some sort of "victory", lol.

Tychi said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

Patience, even coining has its limits lol. But when you see what the 'Paypal Account' has done to our hammer I think you gonna wish this never started :D

This confirms we're in the right thread - once again Tychi, all talk and no fight...maybe someday COWARDS will do something worth taking note of other than bragging about the massive amounts of money they are spending in order to attempt to claim some sort of "victory", lol.

Jezebel said:

Sarah Walker said:

Jezebel i appreciate the input , and you have proved that a NAP is not part of the game , im pretty sure some of the leagues that was not allowed to be part of this " player made Nap" also felt it to be cheating the game , if it was meant to be part of the game then plarium would have included it in the rules , it is nothing more that a few leagues ganging up together to bully the smaller leagues and control the beacon map 

It actually was how the KT war ended, if leagues chose to be in a NAP agreement then they were, the NAP agreement with KT extended to far too many leagues and was dissolved and individual league NAPs were made between leagues who chose to restore them.

I personally don't see the point of them but they have become part of the game so it is what it is.  Whether they are "player made" or part of the game rules doesn't really matter.  Rules are made to be broken and all is fair in love and war!!

 Why do you even bother? He must be trolling like crazy or just have no clue what so ever in how games such as this work with deals between leagues and such. I know this link is not related to Stormfall at all, but the undertaking it point at is based on such deals and others to achieve @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAFw2kLe2OA

To achieve something greater you sometime band together in NAP's, coalitions, alliances, old enemies fight vs a greater evil, and so on. Some giant undertakings might just hold together by ductape and rubber band.  There is no true alliance system and such in this game. You can lable someone as friendly and an ally but at proper system is not in place to let several leagues band together under the same banner. Thus you have the meta game and deals on the backroom.

So NAP is cheating the game but if we call it an alliance in the Embassy we get all warm and fuzzy???

So Shin's proposal to create a super alliance of 4 leagues on the corners with VETO power who gets beacons isn't controlling the map????

Creating an alliance with other leagues ins't controlling the map?????

Do these same players feel cheated when they aren't incuded in an alliance which is part of Plarium's specific play?

A NAP controls the map, got it.

Ally status in Embassy everyone is good, NAP and they feel cheated and bullied? Interesting concept

Sarah Walker said:

Jezebel i appreciate the input , and you have proved that a NAP is not part of the game , im pretty sure some of the leagues that was not allowed to be part of this " player made Nap" also felt it to be cheating the game , if it was meant to be part of the game then plarium would have included it in the rules , it is nothing more that a few leagues ganging up together to bully the smaller leagues and control the beacon map 

It actually was how the KT war ended, if leagues chose to be in a NAP agreement then they were, the NAP agreement with KT extended to far too many leagues and was dissolved and individual league NAPs were made between leagues who chose to restore them.

Jezebel said:

s.mantegna150 said:

test said:

Tychi said:

If you gonna photoshop something at least do it well LOL. Any pro can tell its been done. Poor very poor guys. I hope the guy who did it ain't a pro

lol

Put your money where your mouth is, come hit our beacons and prove us wrong :D

WE DID, REMEMBER ,YOU HAD 20 BEACONS!!!!!!!! WHAT A JOKE, you do sound like a desperate , week man> Hahahahahahehe

You did not take 20 beacons from us and we have already gone over this time and time again - you hit weak beacons so it is really nothing to brag about.  Who is desperate, seems to me you are desperately looking for reasons not to hit our last two remaining beacons.

We were looking at the last 2 tonight but I've had to put a stop to it as I can't have you leave the game just yet ;)

Jezebel i appreciate the input , and you have proved that a NAP is not part of the game , im pretty sure some of the leagues that was not allowed to be part of this " player made Nap" also felt it to be cheating the game , if it was meant to be part of the game then plarium would have included it in the rules , it is nothing more than a few leagues ganging up together to bully the smaller leagues and control the beacon map

So Jezebel what your trying to tell me here is that a NAP is completely made up by a player and has nothing to do with the actual game , 

Gadheras , i believe that link is for something called ogame and nothing to do with stormfall , until i see something with plarium actually acknowledging that a NAP is part of the game then whats the point in arguing over something that is player made , some people would call this " making the rules up as you go along "