sarathps04 said:

You must learn two terms. Paradox and truth. Any one can convince somebody that a paradox is true. But its not real. And sorry, i really don't believe that you are a non coiner. Recently one coiner joined us too. So i know what a coiner can do, how extent he can help. He sacrificed crores and the very next week, he has double the army he had. That's the way it works. But for a non coiner it takes months or years. 

Also i believe you are talking for Plarium. I know you are helpless. You must convince us the game is very good...

Also is it true that you get 3 k drachmas every week?

It's your right if you believe me or not that i'm not a coiner. Can't do anything to change your mind and I won't even try. Those who know me in and out of the game know the truth. 

 I have queues for more than 4 months. I am raiding almost everyday though for the last 5 or so months. A coiner doesn't need to raid I'm sure you already know that. But I follow the things I say to all my non coiners friends. In order to have queues in all 4 buildings you need to either have a really high production (so that you don't raid but that requires quite many sketches) or raid daily to get those resources. You also need to scout your area pretty well in order to find good farms with bronze and timber mostly. And no I don't mean bots I haven't discovered any yet.

I had played Xerxes 10 months ago I got a very good payout at 125 level (was the highest at the time) and I have lost almost 90% of that payout.

That's why I don't play Xerxes anymore. I know I can't get another great payout since I don't have the army he gave me so that I can pay back my bank's debt. As I have mentioned before almost my whole army is gone. I build offense 24/7 so that really helps me to compensate for the losses.

Even if I'm left with no army I won't regret it.

I'm not trying to convince you that the game is good. That's up to anyone to decide. And I'm not helpless I'm just presenting my point of view, how I see the game and what matters to me. Not everyone has the same criteria of course but you can't also make me have the same point of view as you.

Vodkaonice said:

PKGS said:

Vodkaonice said:

start spending money :) problem solved haha

we are not like  a real life loser who spend money on free to play games  to show they are the king in a virtual world which is going to be vanished in coming years better to spend your money on your living and family and if u still have money spend on those who r in need of money inspite of giving it to a rich man

well sir if people have the money to spend they are free to spend it as they wish so i dont see why they are no life losers ? 

if i have like 500 dollars a month i can easily use for game without noticing it in real life then who are you to tell me i cant ? 

stupid reaction build out of spitw and yelousy it seems 

well Floris :-) I don't think the point of this is whether people are free to spend their money or not, its the environment that had been created. that will ultimately kill the game.

most people even if they have this type of money will not spend it to buy the game. there is no pleasure for most people to buy the game for one and they most people again if they have this type of money would spend it to buy the game. I guess if anyone here is a trained shrink they can explain to us what drives some to spend all this money to bully everyone and pretend they are good at the game.

Vodkaonice said:

haha well guys everyone can choose to spend money just like everyone is free to leave this game as they please ... the ongoing discussion just isnt necessary anymore as it will not change 

People like playing the game and that is why they stick around and hope that it will get better but you are right nothing will change, until its too late but plarium relies on a constant flow of new players from their "free to play" ads all over the place.

I am the level of coiner just below these guys but if the game advertised that to win I just had to pay to do so I would never have bothered........

Sadly these types of games only try to milk the game for money especially when they are starting to die off...All these games are the same..milk the players till the game is dead. I refuse to spend when it gets to that point.

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

Sadly these types of games only try to milk the game for money especially when they are starting to die off...All these games are the same..milk the players till the game is dead. I refuse to spend when it gets to that point.

That's your right. Everyone is mature enough to decide if they want to spend their money on this game or not. Judging from the game's activity it won't die soon though. Too many players still like and enjoy the game. 

I know you moderate for plarium so you would never tell the truth about the game and would always stand behind them no matter the issue because you like the free drachmas you receive, but you are so wrong...Alot of these cities are not low level as you claim , but levels 70 and higher.  It doesn't take long looking round the map to see that and that says it all how the game is dying.

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

I know you moderate for plarium so you would never tell the truth about the game and would always stand behind them no matter the issue because you like the free drachmas you receive, but you are so wrong...Alot of these cities are not low level as you claim , but levels 70 and higher.  It doesn't take long looking round the map to see that and that says it all how the game is dying.

You're right, there are abandoned Cities of all levels. But it doesn't mean that the game became deserted. there are still big Coalitions with lots of high-level players. And we even opened new servers some time ago, so the newcomers could choose between an old and a new one :)

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

I know you moderate for plarium so you would never tell the truth about the game and would always stand behind them no matter the issue because you like the free drachmas you receive, but you are so wrong...Alot of these cities are not low level as you claim , but levels 70 and higher.  It doesn't take long looking round the map to see that and that says it all how the game is dying.

I won't try to convince you about anything but don't try to convince me otherwise too.

I have my own point of view which doesn't concur with yours.

But that's how the world works you can't always agree with someone.

That's the case here. 

By the way don't know what happens on Plarium.com but the server I play on Facebook is really much alive! And even if some players have quit there are others who have started the game as well. But obviously you don't take those into consideration.

needlend161 said:

so you say ther are still more new players then players deserting ? 

When someone abandons the game it's not always that he doesn't like the game anymore.

I know players (some of them were coiners) who stopped playing the game or their progress was really slow cause they didn't have time for the game anymore due to real life issues. But that doesn't mean they don't like the game anymore. It means that when they find more time for the game they will come back.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

I know you moderate for plarium so you would never tell the truth about the game and would always stand behind them no matter the issue because you like the free drachmas you receive, but you are so wrong...Alot of these cities are not low level as you claim , but levels 70 and higher.  It doesn't take long looking round the map to see that and that says it all how the game is dying.

You're right, there are abandoned Cities of all levels. But it doesn't mean that the game became deserted. there are still big Coalitions with lots of high-level players. And we even opened new servers some time ago, so the newcomers could choose between an old and a new one :)

best squad has already killed server 2 so that is not going to plan there. the moderate coiners are not coining so I hope best squad is funding that server for you, I am sure you can see the numbers. there have been about 100 coals on server 2 for the last month and that is not growing.

Dorieas said:

Hi there... I agree with ItBurnsWhenIPvP... Its not nessecary to check the map, just klik all the top 100 coals embassies  and the 20-40% of them big cities are inactive... There only a few coiners active and them slaves or alt accounts... For us the Guerilla Raiders we find our farms checking the big coals, trainne and citizen big lvl players... They are our targets for 100 k res... If the big coals knock them inactive players they ll stay only with 70 -80 members each from 150 they got now... 

Its an example that game is dying... And is dying cos the distance of power forge between coiners and non coiners is huge... The biggest mistake of Plarium Head Office is that they got staff or managment they are trying to keep them jobs with temporary profit but with no future plan... Soon in 2-3 years all the games of Plarium they ll die as it die my grandfather ''bird''... Then Plarium workers CV''s for a new job to a similar company, it ll have the same value with the toilet papers...

Hello Archon,

As I said in another post I play on Server 1 on Facebook server and things are actually pretty good here 

i agree, with the last comment.. I have been here a long while and i see less and less activity.

But i cant seem to delete my account.. Can a moderator do it for me..  

i agree, with the last comment.. I have been here a long while and i see less and less activity.

But i cant seem to delete my account.. Can a moderator do it for me..  

Please  ... i have cookies

 

Time to go....

Bye everyone....

Sarath

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

You must learn two terms. Paradox and truth. Any one can convince somebody that a paradox is true. But its not real. And sorry, i really don't believe that you are a non coiner. Recently one coiner joined us too. So i know what a coiner can do, how extent he can help. He sacrificed crores and the very next week, he has double the army he had. That's the way it works. But for a non coiner it takes months or years. 

Also i believe you are talking for Plarium. I know you are helpless. You must convince us the game is very good...

Also is it true that you get 3 k drachmas every week?

It's your right if you believe me or not that i'm not a coiner. Can't do anything to change your mind and I won't even try. Those who know me in and out of the game know the truth. 

 I have queues for more than 4 months. I am raiding almost everyday though for the last 5 or so months. A coiner doesn't need to raid I'm sure you already know that. But I follow the things I say to all my non coiners friends. In order to have queues in all 4 buildings you need to either have a really high production (so that you don't raid but that requires quite many sketches) or raid daily to get those resources. You also need to scout your area pretty well in order to find good farms with bronze and timber mostly. And no I don't mean bots I haven't discovered any yet.

I had played Xerxes 10 months ago I got a very good payout at 125 level (was the highest at the time) and I have lost almost 90% of that payout.

That's why I don't play Xerxes anymore. I know I can't get another great payout since I don't have the army he gave me so that I can pay back my bank's debt. As I have mentioned before almost my whole army is gone. I build offense 24/7 so that really helps me to compensate for the losses.

Even if I'm left with no army I won't regret it.

I'm not trying to convince you that the game is good. That's up to anyone to decide. And I'm not helpless I'm just presenting my point of view, how I see the game and what matters to me. Not everyone has the same criteria of course but you can't also make me have the same point of view as you.

Convince a man without any cataract or elephant that he can defeat a man with 1307 cataract, 654 fire catapult, 58 minotaur and 440 spartan lochagos, through coalition activity and spending more time. 

Do you have any idea, how much time a non coiner will take to get those much champs?.....

What am i doing?...........

Just convince them........Time and hard work.....

Xena said:

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

All one has to do is look at the map with all the dead cities and it is easy to see the game is on the dying spiral to say otherwise is living in fantasy land.

That's your point of view. You can also check the coals and see many high level players who still play the game. The dead cities you are referring to are low level cities (mostly).

Hi there... I agree with ItBurnsWhenIPvP... Its not nessecary to check the map, just klik all the top 100 coals embassies  and the 20-40% of them big cities are inactive... There only a few coiners active and them slaves or alt accounts... For us the Guerilla Raiders we find our farms checking the big coals, trainne and citizen big lvl players... They are our targets for 100 k res... If the big coals knock them inactive players they ll stay only with 70 -80 members each from 150 they got now... 

Its an example that game is dying... And is dying cos the distance of power forge between coiners and non coiners is huge... The biggest mistake of Plarium Head Office is that they got staff or managment they are trying to keep them jobs with temporary profit but with no future plan... Soon in 2-3 years all the games of Plarium they ll die as it die my grandfather ''bird''... Then Plarium workers CV''s for a new job to a similar company, it ll have the same value with the toilet papers...

Xena said:

ItBurnsWhenIPvP said:

All one has to do is look at the map with all the dead cities and it is easy to see the game is on the dying spiral to say otherwise is living in fantasy land.

That's your point of view. You can also check the coals and see many high level players who still play the game. The dead cities you are referring to are low level cities (mostly).

Hi there... I agree with ItBurnsWhenIPvP... Its not nessecary to check the map, just klik all the top 100 coals embassies  and the 20-40% of them big cities are inactive... There only a few coiners active and them slaves or alt accounts... For us the Guerilla Raiders we find our farms checking the big coals, trainne and citizen big lvl players... They are our targets for 100 k res... If the big coals knock them inactive players they ll stay only with 70 -80 members each from 150 they got now... 

Its an example that game is dying... And is dying cos the distance of power forge between coiners and non coiners is huge... The biggest mistake of Plarium Head Office is that they got staff or managment they are trying to keep them jobs with temporary profit but with no future plan... Soon in 2-3 years all the games of Plarium they ll die as it die my grandfather ''bird''... Then Plarium workers CV''s for a new job to a similar company, it ll have the same value with the toilet papers...

All one has to do is look at the map with all the dead cities and it is easy to see the game is on the dying spiral to say otherwise is living in fantasy land.