Tonaya said:

Alyona,what is your highest pp lvl and highest payout?

Tonaya

You know I'm not a player like you, right? :) 

no one is player like me,Tonaya is special :P

thnx,make me happy,tell who is better:Alyona or Tonaya ?

http://prntscr.com/e4ojyi

Tonaya 

Xena said:

Tonaya said:

no one is player like me,Tonaya is special :P

thnx,make me happy,tell who is better:Alyona or Tonaya ?

http://prntscr.com/e4ojyi

Tonaya 

Pretty nice reward you got there Tonaya! Hope you waste those troops wisely! 

Xena,if you give me your coordinates,you can see them better 8)

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

no one is player like me,Tonaya is special :P

thnx,make me happy,tell who is better:Alyona or Tonaya ?

http://prntscr.com/e4ojyi

Tonaya 

Nice reward! Maybe you should share it in some BG-related thread to show your results to other players? :) Let's see if someone can beat your reward 

simple: 500 000 drachmas  8)

simple: 500 000 drachmas  8)

Tonaya

it is easy to negotiate with Tonaya,Alyona,name your price?

Tonaya 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

it is easy to negotiate with Tonaya,Alyona,name your price?

Tonaya 

That's ok, Tonaya. You can keep it :)

to keep what?i didnt got anything from plarium

Xena said:

Tonaya said:

no one is player like me,Tonaya is special :P

thnx,make me happy,tell who is better:Alyona or Tonaya ?

http://prntscr.com/e4ojyi

Tonaya 

Pretty nice reward you got there Tonaya! Hope you waste those troops wisely! 

Xena,if you give me your coordinates,you can see them better 8)

Tonaya

maybe i would make new lvl 1 city and hit you every day with swords,and siege you as well >:)

Tonaya

Tonaya said:

yup,but it would be more fun if i can hit you with my monster army ^^

Tonaya 

Well maybe some day Tonaya! 

But today it won't be that day! 

And please let's stay on topic!  

Tonaya said:

yup,but it would be more fun if i can hit you with my monster army ^^

Tonaya 

Well maybe some day Tonaya! 

But today it won't be that day! 

And please let's stay on topic!  

ok,about topic,i agree,rewards is pure garbage :)

on this pvp reward for 10k pvp points is 320 imperial thure.

what you said ,Xena,for 10k pvp its good rewards,hm?

Tonaya 

on this pvp reward for 10k pvp points is 320 imperial thure.

what you said ,Xena,for 10k pvp its good rewards,hm?

Tonaya 

Xena: True, there are a few tournaments which, if one trains units extensively, offer sizable rewards (if one is in an active coalition), but, at least from my experience, these are few and far between, not only regarding the tourney schedule but also the time it takes to retrain lost troops.

What sometimes disagrees with me, are statements claiming that tourneys are optional in this game, rather like "nice-to-have" perks.

A player at the mid-70ies level (such as myself) has completed most if not all building upgrades up those levels requiring sketches, therefore he or she will need to play tournaments to secure sketches, or win drachmas to buy sketches, which again means playing tourneys. There is no alternative, the odd drachma one might pick up here and there through achievements and the like don't account for much.

Please do the math: on a good week I will train 2m to 2.5m of troop strength which I invest in 1 tourney on the weekend (or two smaller ones, depending on the offered rewards). Training units for two weeks and throwing them all at one large tournament every fortnight is an option but doesn't really change the math.

Around 2.5m troop strength (and I'm being generous here) invested weekly, will get you perhaps 200 to 300 drachmas (and perhaps a sketch or two if a Dev Race tourney is on). A building upgrade from level 20 to 21 will cost around 120 sketches, therefore it will take 4 weeks to earn sufficient drachmas to buy sketches at the 10:1 rate (and again, I'm being very generous since that rate only applies if one buys the 10.000 drachmas = 1.000 sketches package, which is a VERY long wait). But let us again err on the side of caution and say it takes not 4 but only 2 weeks to earn sufficient drachmas (or sketches) for one level 21 building upgrade.

With around 25 buildings needing upgrades (17 production, plus harbor, port acropolis, infirmary, and so on), that's around 50 weeks of tourneys for all upgrades from level 20 to 21. A year.

Obviously it makes sense to concentrate on production buildings (and upgrade unit training times in academy and amphitheatre in order to increase training and unit strengths), but those savings won't amount to more than the 50% I've already reduced previously, not nearly.

But now look at levels 22 to 25 of most buildings: sketch demands usually more or less double with each level, therefore if it took me 50 weeks to upgrade all building to level 21, it will take me 100 weeks for the level 22 upgrade, 200 weeks for level 23 … and so on.

We are now no longer measuring upgrade speeds in years but in decades!

I sure hope Plarium is committed to this game since it has generational aspects. Will you still be running and supporting this game in the year 2030 when I'll leave my login to my son? :-) You better!

PS: And we haven't even discussed the fact that high-level agreements also require sketches.

Guys..I remember on start when there was no tournaments .. I started playing Stormfall 01.01.2013 and I can remember old days.. there were no tournaments, only reward were EXP points, so if you look that and this.. at least there are some rewards , not that big but at least they are here..

Tonaya said:

i am giving advices to my members,here we talk about game changes,if they were good,i wouldnt complain,i would say: good job,plarium,like i did on the other thread where they posted about changes for every day login and not loosing rewards for login.

fell free,Xena,ask what you want Tonaya to teach you?

Tonaya the teacher

I am perfectly fine with my current game knowledge. I prefer to study things on my own. When something is more complex then I'll ask for some help but still I want to make assumptions myself. 

If I need anything though I'll feel free to ask you! 

Nope... It's confirmed.  Total garbage.  Not ONE of the PvP brackets has GPS rewards.  As a matter of fact, GPS rewards have become almost non-existent in any tournament.  Any hope of progressing and acquiring the larger units is also non-existent.

Mods, please don't patronize me with the Company line.  We all know it's total BS.

A couple of years ago in other versions, the Big tournament would come up every couple of weeks and players looked forward to it and built accordingly to get the most from it which included equivalent Champion units and equivalent GPS.  Now we are inundated with a new useless tourney every couple of days.  Ever hear the term "burnout"?  That's what the fools at Plarium have done.

  Because of their greed in catering to the Coiners they have totally destroyed ALL versions of this game, i.e. Pirates, Soldiers, Stormfall, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum.