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Jun 16, 2016, 09:0306/16/16
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General Item Drops (Compiled Data)

Last update: 12 July 2016 (PROJECT NOW RETIRED)


I wanted to share what I have found about the item drops in the new general feature. Below is selected information based on what I have been able to gather. I will update as I find out more.  There are 2 issues to note: (1) I got 2 legendary drops before I started tracking so the rarity numbers are a little off and (2) I am only hitting positions up to around 30 so I don't have data for higher level positions.

Update 1:

Class level thresholds follow a 20 level pattern (thank you NECAB15-GAMES for confirming).

Update 2:

Correlation coefficients are now added for level, position type, rarity and item type. At the moment, nothing appears to be correlated, but hopefully the picture will continue to become clear as time goes on.

Update 3:

There is now a public sheet where you can log your positions as you take them. I will pull in and compile all the data once a day.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M2DWrFlMastziV37A8kZxbYBASWI1PGaNLbz_oJT3QA/edit?usp=sharing 

The overall spreadsheet can be found here here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q8dGjkP5LRJM3kjTIti5lv_0s0IBvH0DbMlydg_cb1A/edit?usp=sharing



Total Number of Data Points
241
Key Drop Rarity
2.07%
Rarity Dispersion
Common 201 84.7%
Uncommon 31 12.9%
Rare 4 1.7%
Legendary 2 0.8%
Class Level Thresholds
Class 1 1
Class 2 21
Class 3 41
Class 4 61
Correlation Coefficients
Level : Rarity 0.0104
Level : Item type -0.0114
Position type : Rarity -0.1124
Position type : Item type 0.0893




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Jun 16, 2016, 09:2606/16/16
231746
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure that many players will be glad to get such info.
Jun 16, 2016, 14:4406/16/16
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Jun 16, 2016, 14:5906/16/16
08/03/15
505

would be nice if it was for higher positions! Ask your coal for more data!!
Jun 17, 2016, 06:5406/17/16
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Hackerista said:



would be nice if it was for higher positions! Ask your coal for more data!!

I agree. I've already started putting out a call for contributors in the coalition. 

If there's anyone on the message boards who would like to contribute, I would be happy to have you.  You can make a copy of the Google Sheet by click on File -> Make a Copy and maintain your own sheet.  Multiple people can do this and the results can be compiled into one sheet with lots of positions, just post your links here!

Jun 17, 2016, 08:4006/17/16
08/03/15
505
Good job Archon. Once I finish building fodding units and start doing Persians again, I will let you know on higher positions :)
Jun 20, 2016, 13:3906/20/16
231746

Dear Archons, 


Do you mean the class 2 box can be attained if I have completed at least the level 21 position takeover? But I have already complete at least level 21 but still did not receive class box. Please advice. thanks =)
Jun 20, 2016, 19:5306/20/16
231746

Well I played only 1 PP and got box class 3 .. I'd clear lvl16 (special PP) 

I hope I have helped you a bit  
Jun 21, 2016, 18:0306/21/16
231746
excellent info! Many thanks I shall put this to good use!
Jun 22, 2016, 16:5506/22/16
231746
Yea..I can't wait to get or buy key for box ..can't wait to see what's in there lol
Aug 12, 2016, 00:5508/12/16
01/27/15
546
The good stuff is up top but I have only gotten 1 class 4 legendary chest above level 70.  99% of the time it's all class 4 common, uncommon and rare and I've played higher levels until I have filled every single slot purchasable and the temporary slots too
Aug 18, 2016, 01:3208/18/16
12/21/15
16
I have played up to position 80 and have still never received a class III or IV item, even a common one. I would rather have a common class IV than a rare or legendary class I or II because it benefits phalanx and cavalry as well as lighter troops. It doesn't matter that the level of common items is lower, they can always be upgraded and it means that any upgrade you perform on it will also apply to the phalanx and cavalry troops. Phalanx and cavalry are many times stronger than light or heavy infantry so even a rare or legendary class I or II item in my opinion is not all that interesting if all it benefits is the infantry. I've played dozens of positions including high ones and my Sparta general is getting impatient for a class 3 or 4 box or item.
Aug 27, 2016, 08:0108/27/16
1
hahahahahahaaa
Aug 30, 2016, 07:5308/30/16
231746
Is there a relation to geography as well ?
Sep 2, 2016, 19:1809/02/16
03/30/15
8

i am very close to leaving this game, i find the constant ' moving the goalposts' extremely annoying, positions are a prime example of this. The ' General' is an almighty con, you are better off keeping your original 'off/ def'.

i have completed all 'scrolls' and yet i still get them as a so called reward, and can't trade them, i have some 2000 silver caduceus which i will never use but i cannot sell or trade them.

upgrades in 'off/def' seem to count for nothing in cap city, i still lose massive amounts of units in positions for very little gain.

my son has an acc here also and despite the fact that he has very little in the way of upgrades in Academy seems to build the same amount of units as i do on a daily basis, i have no upgrades left to do, he has hundreds yet we still build close to the same amount of units, WHY,

i can send 5000 thuros at a 150 position and win and yet i can send 200000 thuros at a 150 position and lose 5000 ????? am i missing something here, this is with all my gen and cap city upgrades.

the 50/60% upgrades should mean 50/60% not some weird maths calculation that plarium have invented.

as i said earlier i am close to leaving this game and if things do not change 'i will'
Sep 5, 2016, 08:3809/05/16
231746

jackovitch said:


i am very close to leaving this game, i find the constant ' moving the goalposts' extremely annoying, positions are a prime example of this. The ' General' is an almighty con, you are better off keeping your original 'off/ def'.

i have completed all 'scrolls' and yet i still get them as a so called reward, and can't trade them, i have some 2000 silver caduceus which i will never use but i cannot sell or trade them.

upgrades in 'off/def' seem to count for nothing in cap city, i still lose massive amounts of units in positions for very little gain.

my son has an acc here also and despite the fact that he has very little in the way of upgrades in Academy seems to build the same amount of units as i do on a daily basis, i have no upgrades left to do, he has hundreds yet we still build close to the same amount of units, WHY,

i can send 5000 thuros at a 150 position and win and yet i can send 200000 thuros at a 150 position and lose 5000 ????? am i missing something here, this is with all my gen and cap city upgrades.

the 50/60% upgrades should mean 50/60% not some weird maths calculation that plarium have invented.

as i said earlier i am close to leaving this game and if things do not change 'i will'

As I already said in another thread, our devs are considering if there need to be any changes made to PPs right now.

They are also aware of the "Caduces" issue. They will find a way to resolve it.

There are several game features which allow you to build Units faster. And we are planning to add some more. 

As for the bonus calculations, I could explain you in more details if you wish. 

 Let's imagine 1 builder can build a house in 1 day (or 24 hours).

Earlier our Bonuses were cutting the construction time. Let's say the bonus is 50%. In that case 1 builder will build 1 house in 12 hours (50% less).

But a few months ago we have changed the way your bonuses are applied. Now they rise speed instead of cutting the time.

How does it work?

Let's imagine that our builder started working 50% faster.

It means that 1 builder will build 1,5 houses in 1 day (24 hours), or 1 house in 16 hours. Not 12 like it would be if the Bonus cut the building time for a house.

The same formula is behind all construction/training/etc. bonuses.

Sep 7, 2016, 16:1709/07/16
1
Thank you
Sep 8, 2016, 11:0009/08/16
231746
balantrodoch said:

Thank you
You're welcome. If you have any questions, please ask.
Sep 29, 2016, 05:0809/29/16
08/27/16
1
:)
Oct 16, 2016, 18:4710/16/16
01/27/15
546
You can no longer get class 4 items at positions 70-90. Or at least in my case I can't.  I play PP quite often and now I am getting close to 50% of my general items as coffers.  I just destroy them too.  They are a waste of time.