punisher, the guy to whom you asked to send 500 javs might have chnaged his own bonuses as well just to drive you mad lol

I have another remark, that has already been made else where and that is not quite on topic : the city defense bonus does kill some of your off troops when raiding even though there is not a single defending soldier... it shouldn't be the case, as it is supposed to simply increase the strength of defending troops, right ?

Dimitri , with respect you've had a lot of mileage out of that off the shelf answer " it may not work as we expect it to"

Dimitri Molchanov said:

That is your opinion that you are, of course, entitled to hold on to, no matter what information is presented. The thread linked shows that simple numerical advantage does not guarantee a full destruction of the enemy force and that the old formula has been changed. It may not work as you expect it to, but that doesn't mean the formula is wrong 

It is not my opinion, it is the fact, Punisher tested it and posted the screen shoots in this subject, and you still refuse the accept it.

You are telling me about that with massive offense you can not expect a full destruction ??? Are we talking chineese here ??? I'm saying that two tests showed different results with same conditions... Why is that ?

The more you know, the more you know your ignorance...

this only shows that there is something wrong in the game here...

you can talk about variables that can affect battle results all day, but the result on both attacks should be the same, and it somehow ain't...

thanks for making an effort to test it out mate , looks convincing , 

what results i got was absolutely wierd , did nothing wrong , but i will try it out again , this time same city , not different ones , for my own satisfaction i want to test it out , lol

anyways thankyou for sharing the reports which weigh more toward confirming that they should work , 

Update! Here is what I managed on the Test Server. All attacks were on the same City, no changes were made to the attacker's or defender's forces that are not specified.

Raid #1 - no enhances or bonuses.

Looks like I missed Leonidas' Javelineer there, but he does not make that much of a difference.

Raid#2 - 20% Offense Enhancer, activated while the attacking force was already marching.

Raid#3 - 20% Offense Enhancer already active, Dominion Level 8 activated while the attacking force was on the march.

There are variables affecting the battle outcome, so sometimes you might see weird stuff like you had (or maybe there was something that was not taken in account, I am not sure!). However, as per above screenshots it seems like the Offense bonuses do apply even if they are activated when your Army is on the move 

hey dimitri!

okay so i did a testing , got someone to send 500 javs in a level 2 city , and 500 javs in another level 2 city , made sure the fortifications are exactly the same , 

i sent 100 swords to one of the city , and when they were a minute closer to hitting the target , i switched on dominion , quipped general , switched on 25% off bonus of amphitheatre , 

here is the result https://prnt.sc/inonbj

then , with all these bonuses already on , i sent 100 swords to the other city with 500 javs present in there , to see if there is any difference , 

now when i hit the target ,

here is the result https://prnt.sc/inonix

its very wierd , the reports somwhat differ , in a way that was not expecting , 

the first 100 swords were sent without these bonuses on , and were turned on when about to hit the target , and i killed 280 javs , lost 52 swords and got 143 pvp , 

now when the bonuses were already on i sent 100 swords to the other city with same amount of javs , (i thought i will kill more) , but , opposite happened , 

i had the same losses , of 52 swords , killed 266 javs which is 14 javs lesser than first report , and got lesser pvp of 136 , 

thats kinda wierd , lol

maybe it's the same  with the time  when you  accept an friend request from someboy and don't refresh the game when you make an trade   (nothing changes on the time youre galley travel to him  )

   but from my experience    in the past doing  the one days raidings  ..if   the movement speed  bonus   it  was  applied after i sent my one days raids the speed of my army sent before will not change 

p.s.  Dimitry responses   as  usual    i don't have   words   to describe  what i'm thinking of you without getting an ban  ..anyhow this it's my  500 post on this forum ..so i should receive an ban as an gift because this it's the way you guys compensate the  guys here  :))

Dimitri, Dimitri, Dimitri,

You can post millions of links, and have millions of excuses, but your formula is just simply wrong, it calculates differently each time and it shouldn't be that way. And finaly we have a prof of that. And i didnt see that Leonidas speaks of that in the thread you refer me to.

If you want you can test with your entire deff and off to see the outcome, than heal them all and do the test again. Than share the link of how low the difference is, but somehow i doubt that you will do that.

Thats my point.