Here is how it worked for me at one day;

I did PP positions from level 110 till 130 only using offensive positions. Before doing it, I filled my resource storage to the max. By hitting these positions, I did lose some serious amount of units, some positions had very low amount of losses while others were huge. Still I would get some ''decent'' payout from each position so it was basically pushing me to go more and more.  At 130, the positions didn't go more they stopped. I was at debt yeah... what to do ? I picked position 112 with defensive troops this time and I got 13k mounted peltast and 2k phalax offensive.

Now was that worth it? Well considering that I converted all phalax units to cavarly, I'd say it's kinda worth it. I am still in debt of units number not calculating the actual def/off points. But I was satisfied to see my 3-4k def units get converted to horses. My offense on the other hand suffered a lot but I'm a defensive player mostly...

Then several days after that, I tried the tactic again but this time nope it doesn't work. Tried on all accounts but nothing. Always in debt and getting small units even tho my storage is full. I found it very suspicious. Then at one position I lost my units and failed to raid PP position. One bar from four was left at position strenght so I thought, let's try it with the forces I have left... Then bum, I get around 6k phalax payout at that exact same positions where Persians were weakened. So total 4k units profit which is meh. This was level 82 position tho.

Next days I tried on my different account the same thing. No profit from direct wins. So I tried this method from the above, lose around 2k phalax def units to position 82+ and leave it at 1 mark strenght. After I finished the position with what's left of it, I got 6k horses payload.

As you can see PP positions are very confusing and I cannot know exactly why it worked this way and why it even works in general like this. You seem to get bigger payloads if position was left at 1 strenght rather than finishing it on the first try...

Wow !!!!  The community manager reports if there have been changes ??????????

I can not believe you said this.

What about the changes to guardian gem rewards that were cut by 75% and no mention of this change was posted to us, we had to discover this ourselves.

The changes to the target numbers of collectables in Guardian Duel events that were increased by a thousand with no warning or notice.

The changes to the combat mechanics 2 years ago that no one posted about and we again had to figure out ourselves?

The forced migration of players to the failed test servers, when some but not all players were messed over?

I can go on and on.  There was no warning, and no notice to the players until we challanged these changes and informed the game community on our own.

Moderators please STOP with the constant lies you are trying to feed us.  It is muchmore than just annoying, it destroys your credibility with us, and proves that staff here can not be trusted.

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finally after 3 years and 3months i solve my problem from the day of december 2017 that ive lost huge amount of my army (you can see how much from my posts) the solution came from plarium support and guess what it wasnt  any case of tactiks or updates with relics or whatever ...the problem is that  the bank from the end of 2017 changed and the lost units remain only for 14 days,noone  announced anything here or sparta page the said all things are ok change tactic.....so to those people who tried to present me that im mentally ill and i followed their instrunctions for nothing-if you dont give me my army back i will exercise my legal rights to you(admins,community managers),moderators no words for you