I wander if MM federation will retaliate or it will fall appart like many other federations

I bet   Vodka  was still  sleeping when  this   attacks   happened   :)

Funny   that till  now they  don't get   it that he is the rat :)

Bria Alexander, I doubt he was a rat and accepted to sink with the rest of them... http://prntscr.com/jfae6b

I was quite surprised to see that their capital was much better defended than HOB's ! (compare http://prntscr.com/jfahq1 and http://prntscr.com/jfai14)

Their coa description asks 200M off and 100M def (more than any other) and they have quite a few players under lvl90, so I thought this was bullshit, but even those weaker players have been doing well in the rankings, more than 100 of them earned more than 0.5M defense ranking points, which is significant. If they have more off than def, and if they feel like retaliating, I wouldn't call them dead :)

It's interesting to see that they earned roughly twice as many points as their attackers combined ; defense usually gets more points, but definitely not twice as many ! Is it because their units were altogether more powerful (=supported by more and higher bonuses) than HOB's had been, thus killing more off troops among the attacking waves ? I can't think of another reason.

Poor Warmachine, he left HOB and ended up losing even more here :p

And Missbehavin had barely fought before http://prntscr.com/jfaofk, and there she is, having lost more than Shaka did http://prntscr.com/jfanhc 

Lefebleu, i want to congratulate you for this proffesional comment. Very interesting and far more useful than most of the comments in forum containing mostly blah blah buls*hit.

The twice as many poitns that MM had scored came from the big differense from deffending to attacking force measured in strenght. I would assume at the begining small raids crushed in capital. There MM collected most of the points leaving the attackers only few 

It will be very interesting if MM federation join forces with NTD. There the Nordman will fall for sure

If it happens and Nordman get shreded to pieces, Parabellum will strike a peace deal will NTD and MM making them the dominating coalition in Sparta, and Nordman goes empty handed. 

maybe MM def was greater than Hob def maybe also  some raiders forget  to apply dominion or +20% off bonus or phylarch bonus 25 %.....at the end strength of offense may vary a lot.... but is it possible some of those top player who raided MM capitol forgot  bonus...

I don't think the beginning was with small raids......  a small raid kill nobody in a capitol with some billion of def.... 

maybe MM def was greater than Hob def maybe also  some raiders forget  to apply dominion or +20% off bonus or phylarch bonus 25 %.....at the end strength of offense may vary a lot.... but is it possible some of those top player who raided MM capitol forgot  bonus...

I don't think the beginning was with small raids......  a small raid kill nobody in a capitol with some billion of def.... 

DMT,

;-)  honestly i don't think so....coa attack on a capitol like MM should be much bigger than 100 Millions..... 

100 000 000 /4000 (value of an agema 4000 is a small value  with bonus) give you 25000 agema...... 

do you  really think Agim, Penthé and others could raid with only 25k agema total in coa attack.... who knows.....   

But maybe Lefeubleu is true... Bigger def than hob..

we will see when print screens arrived...

Wait & See.

Answer from MM should come

Have a good game to all.

Manu

DMT said:

It will be very interesting if MM federation join forces with NTD. There the Nordman will fall for sure

If it happens and Nordman get shreded to pieces, Parabellum will strike a peace deal will NTD and MM making them the dominating coalition in Sparta, and Nordman goes empty handed. 

You're having a strange dream. 

DMT said:

by small raids i meant relatively small like 50-100 mil :)

Yes of course with attacks like that we wouldn't have gotten far. 

lefeubleu said:

Bria Alexander, I doubt he was a rat and accepted to sink with the rest of them... http://prntscr.com/jfae6b

I was quite surprised to see that their capital was much better defended than HOB's ! (compare http://prntscr.com/jfahq1 and http://prntscr.com/jfai14)

Their coa description asks 200M off and 100M def (more than any other) and they have quite a few players under lvl90, so I thought this was bullshit, but even those weaker players have been doing well in the rankings, more than 100 of them earned more than 0.5M defense ranking points, which is significant. If they have more off than def, and if they feel like retaliating, I wouldn't call them dead :)

It's interesting to see that they earned roughly twice as many points as their attackers combined ; defense usually gets more points, but definitely not twice as many ! Is it because their units were altogether more powerful (=supported by more and higher bonuses) than HOB's had been, thus killing more off troops among the attacking waves ? I can't think of another reason.

Poor Warmachine, he left HOB and ended up losing even more here :p

And Missbehavin had barely fought before http://prntscr.com/jfaofk, and there she is, having lost more than Shaka did http://prntscr.com/jfanhc 

By the way, DI also attacked them despite their allied status... That doesn't surprise me at all coming from nakorakis but I don't know about Golden and Vertigo, I've never come across them.

Great post. 

I think you are missing a big factor though. HOB was hit after Capital Takedown and was debuffed completely as Nordmann and others were buffed. This was a major factor. 

What a poor bunch. The Allainz corner club should rename to Noobs, because a coa gets nothing baked alone.

What would Cultus be without Nordmann, nothing.

Also, the other Coas who ran on MM,there are a poor bunch.

Bria Alexander, I doubt he was a rat and accepted to sink with the rest of them... http://prntscr.com/jfae6b

I was quite surprised to see that their capital was much better defended than HOB's ! (compare http://prntscr.com/jfahq1 and http://prntscr.com/jfai14)

Their coa description asks 200M off and 100M def (more than any other) and they have quite a few players under lvl90, so I thought this was bullshit, but even those weaker players have been doing well in the rankings, more than 100 of them earned more than 0.5M defense ranking points, which is significant. If they have more off than def, and if they feel like retaliating, I wouldn't call them dead :)

It's interesting to see that they earned roughly twice as many points as their attackers combined ; defense usually gets more points, but definitely not twice as many ! Is it because their units were altogether more powerful (=supported by more and higher bonuses) than HOB's had been, thus killing more off troops among the attacking waves ? I can't think of another reason.

Poor Warmachine, he left HOB and ended up losing even more here :p

And Missbehavin had barely fought before http://prntscr.com/jfaofk, and there she is, having lost more than Shaka did http://prntscr.com/jfanhc 

By the way, DI also attacked them despite their allied status... That doesn't surprise me at all coming from nakorakis but I don't know about Golden and Vertigo, I've never come across them.

We"re not sure what is the situation with K4ne and his deffence. What if he doesnt have any? All his force could be off only.

things are not always what they seem,  losses were heavy for all,   Millions of Agemas died  even with the 75% healer it still costs a fortune to heal them, and this is far from over, merely the first volley.  Who will be hit next?  If I was Nordsmann, Parabellum, Cultus United, Kracken, American Outlaws, Swartz Rot Gold, Zerebus,  or the trader allies Death Inc better be thinking about dropping your pans and sticking your entire defense in your capitals

DMT,

;-)  honestly i don't think so....coa attack on a capitol like MM should be much bigger than 100 Millions..... 

100 000 000 /4000 (value of an agema 4000 is a small value  with bonus) give you 25000 agema...... 

do you  really think Agim, Penthé and others could raid with only 25k agema total in coa attack.... who knows.....   

But maybe Lefeubleu is true... Bigger def than hob..

we will see when print screens arrived...

Wait & See.

Answer from MM should come

Have a good game to all.

Manu

Not sure how much defense did MM had but the present state is ...

please remind your history mm

-some of your enemies are happy to see mm fall

-hope mm do not cry ya

-why I do not see defense k4ne? where is k4ne?

-ya we are love the players nordmann

congratulations to Nordmann