It seems that some players attack on maintenance time to prevent defender to take defensive action (like recalling troups) since the game access is then limited.
Wouldn't it be a good approach to impose a peace treaty on all towns for the like 10 or 20 minutes before maintenance and until acces is restored ?
CIM said:
Maybe better to recall troops before the game goes into maintenance ... .
I don't see any reason why it would be better.
1/ recalling you troups is not the only defensive measure you could use when you are under atttack
2/ It won't help anyone to have one's troupe being automatically recalled, just because there was a maintenance.
Well if your troops are recalled before maintenance then they can't be attacked right when it is over ... and I never said anything about having one's troops automatically recalled because of maintenance.CIM said:
Maybe better to recall troops before the game goes into maintenance ... .I don't see any reason why it would be better.
1/ recalling you troups is not the only defensive measure you could use when you are under atttack
2/ It won't help anyone to have one's troupe being automatically recalled, just because there was a maintenance.
I wasn't talking about an attack on a tile, but an attack on your town. When an agressor attacks your town, you can take defensive measures to defend your town, which can be :
- Call back you troups to defend your town,
- resurrect dead from a previous fight or heal injured,
- use some defensive measure.
- etc.
The cheat consists in launching one or more attack(s) on another town, at the exact time the system will become unreachable, so that the defender is unable to take any action to defend his town before the enemy troups reach him. That's why I'm telling the system should impose a peace treaty at that time in order to avoid this situation.Maintenance is announced: shield up and recall troops.
Problem solvedpilou said:
The solution you propose is just unfair. it would only benefit the attacker by depleting defenders shields.
well, with all the gold from event, it is not a problem to remain shielded for years...
For your information, player with 40B+ has stop the game because he can't access the game for 6 hours when his shield expired during normal game time but with access issue "Not Maintenance" . And he is good money spender to enjoy the game.
Since that time "a week ago" he is waiting to hear from plarium to recover or get special deal to rebuild, and he stop spending until then; his goal is 100b in short time.
Totaly agreed with CIM, i always buying Huge retreat coffers and use 3day shield when logg off at end of the day. And i doesnt do it specialy for shield up, i just buy coffers for relocation. Its very cheap and easy to buy
1) if you are in game no reason not to see the warning
2) you never know how long maintenance can take
3) so now seems you are saying you log out without shield
4) so use an 8 hour shield
Look they have to do maintenance I already support and have put forth for them to automatically shield all towns at the time of maintenance for 24 hours ... in case someone logs in in the morning but can't because a maintenance is going on and then they need to go to work and weren't able to reset their shield ... or other reasons that would not be their own fault ...
Yes I like the relocation you get also ... you can also by the large retreat pack with a 24 hour shield for cheaper ... which I am sure you are already aware of but just mentioning it for others to see.Totaly agreed with CIM, i always buying Huge retreat coffers and use 3day shield when logg off at end of the day. And i doesnt do it specialy for shield up, i just buy coffers for relocation. Its very cheap and easy to buy
I didn't ignore your point, but gave a solution. If you are in the game for two weeks or more and you're still not using peace shields when not actively attacking, you deserve any losses you get whether it's fair in your eyes or not. My kingdom is at peace, but we're also all shielded, it is the status quo. Simple.
The game is constantly evolving and each player must adapt to what is provided or accept defeat/failure. If each player has their own way, the game would be...even worse.pilou said:
It seems you don't realize that relatively new players which do not use big credit card do not have resources to be shielded full time. And by the way, not all players spend their time shielded. Some agree to be attacked, if it is fair because they can build their defense.
I do understand what it is like to be a new player and to not use big credit card. And I started over a year ago when it was very hard to get gold in game. Now it is very easy to get enough gold to stay shielded. We have new players that manage very quickly to be able to stay shielded all the time with out spending any money on the game.
Rocketman said:
I see another problem: we all have free 24(8) shield after maintenance, and we can't attack anyone, because even dead cities will be under shields. I think how it work now is fine
That is true that would be the case ... however I think that all things considered it would be good for a 24 hour shield to be put on if not at least 24 hour notice is given of the maintenance. Say every morning I log on before I go to work do some attacks then shield back up ... and well this morning all of a sudden is a maintenance that didn't have 24 hour notice and I can't log into the game ... and I have to go to work and my shield will fall before I get home. I find that to be a problem with the game and not the player ... the game should give 24 hour notice of a maintenance and if they don't they should put on automatically a 24 hour shield on all towns ... I would go for all "active" towns ... ones that have had activity in the past 30 days ...
Just to make it clear ... the attack doesn't happen DURING maintenance ... at that time the game is not running ... it happens right after the game is brought up ... so the shield only needs to be effective at the time maintenance takes place ... not 10 to 20 minutes before maintenance ... but seems like you got a group of people after you ...Rocketman said:
I think how it work now is fine
If a group of players can decide to attack one target at the very last second before the system going in maintenance, it will make that :
- all attacks will be notified at the same time
- defender will be forcibly disconnected before he can react to the notification
- all attacks will occur during the maintenance time, exactly as if all attacker had relocated near the attacked town, but without the attackers having to pay for the relocating costs.
1/ For what reason, do you believe doing that and being able to do that is not abusing the rules ?
2/ for what reason, do you believe forcibly giving the defender 10-20 minutes to react by setting an automatic peace treaty for the 10-20 minute before the maintenance and until it ends, would be wrong ?
First off it never lets me know when there's a maintenance issue and it should never allow people to bog in while there's maintenance I've been having troubles doing arena battles and trying to get tournament points and none of them are registering no matter how many battles I do and win.
Mee said:
Maintenance is announced: shield up and recall troops.
Problem solved
This is absurd. There is no point in shielding yourself for 8 hours if you are not under attack. especially since you do not necessarily have enough shields for all maintenances. And by the way, this game is not about staying shielded full time.
The solution you propose is just unfair. it would only benefit the attacker by depleting defenders shields.CIM said:
You are right the internals had not stopped ... time still passed but the attack didn't actually take place until the game started up again and it registered to have happened while the game was down. However if a peace treaty is put on at the time the maintenance starts that would have taken care of that because the game would have registered that you had a peace treaty when the attacks happened which they happened AFTER the start of the maintenance.
I don't know what happens when one raises a peace treaty between the time an attack is launched against him and the time the enemy troops arrive to his city. You wont be able to launch an attack if the town is already protected, but I'm not sure an already launched attack will be aborted if you raise a peace treaty AFTER is has been launched. I don't know how it was intended to be, and I also don't know if what happens is really what was intended to happen, because I've seen that many people complained about bugs in that matter.
That's why I say that, if peace treaties are enforced in the, let's say 20 minutes before maintenance, this means that the defender will never get in the situation where he is forcibly logged out immediately after the attack is declared, and then he is sure to have the time to react, providing that the attacker didn't move his town in the immediate vicinity (but for this he has to spend a relocate bonus).
