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27 июнь 2016, 07:2027.06.16
12.07.15
2
WE WILL BE HEARD.
27 июнь 2016, 12:0427.06.16
27 июнь 2016, 16:30(отредактировано)
11.01.15
1
you people  have made the rules if good players  have a way to make them better  then its good for the game that is not cheating  tell me how this is cheating ?  you guys will lose  many players  over  this  decision  i  can see it  happen    you should too
27 июнь 2016, 15:4027.06.16
28.02.14
21

ALYONA KOLOMIITSEVA: thank you for confirming that plarium has made the already dead game even more slow and armies are for big coiners only, also thank you for apologizing for killing our best infest strategy due to some unfair exploit which the fair players don't need to know.

I think I will be done with this game soon. Any MoR members who are interested to continue playing the game can ask their infest questions here. I only understand that you need to spend a lot of more time and more cash here now. 

Cheers and a best of luck with your infests everyone :) 



28 июнь 2016, 00:5328.06.16
10.08.13
54
Whats happening can someone explain?
28 июнь 2016, 09:5128.06.16
03.01.15
28

CK-Prophesy said:


Wipe out ! - so Khalesee , plarium combined I know that I know nothing with I think therefore I am. FAIL, they should Blame it on Boogie or do we have to keep Shout


Note: Listen to the music! 

Didi said:


CK-Prophesy said:


In game of thrones, wolf died. Just as in the book... you know nothing John Snow ,  you know nothing Plarium! 



Siana said:



cD-pSyKik said:


My post did not have any swear word or any thing against the rules, may i know why it got deleted??

sD-pSyKik, 

This will make 2 of us ..or more...:) 

I posted a question which was deleted not even 3 seconds later. 

It must have been a very sensitive subject ! 

I take it as the answer was yes. 

Well, at least at something Plarium was efficient and I say Bravo , well done :P

If they put there efforts into  fixing the problem created by changing the Infests System and say a sweet and nice Sorry to their customers it'll be just brilliant ! We might get to a win win situation.

In my country we have a saying which goes : The wolf is full and the lamb is still alive.   

Oh, one day maybe:) 



Scio me nihil scire . - Socrates

I know that I know nothing.



Lovely taste in music , Sir :)

I love both songs.. especially SHOUT !

Music is powerful weapon. maybe if Plarium doesn't understand what we write here, they'll listen to what we play:) ... and somehow read between the lines..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGnPFplRKNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olzq9DylPAA


29 июнь 2016, 07:4929.06.16
05.04.13
35

the devs has made a mistake with the infest payouts ...there are players (unfair players in the eyes of plarium !!!) who took benefit form this error and what does plarium do...... change the infest again so the so called fair players need to hit more infest te recieve a payout.


thats the otherway around plarium ,you should compensate the so called fair players otherwise the balans in the game is gone.


my question : what is plarium going to do to find the balans back between the smart infest players (unfair players) and those who just hit one infest at the time(fair players) ?


Danny


30 июнь 2016, 09:4030.06.16
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cD-pSyKik said:

ALYONA KOLOMIITSEVA: thank you for confirming that plarium has made the already dead game even more slow and armies are for big coiners only, also thank you for apologizing for killing our best infest strategy due to some unfair exploit which the fair players don't need to know.

I think I will be done with this game soon. Any MoR members who are interested to continue playing the game can ask their infest questions here. I only understand that you need to spend a lot of more time and more cash here now. 

Cheers and a best of luck with your infests everyone :) 



It's really sad to hear about your decision. You're always welcome here if you decide to return.
30 июнь 2016, 09:4930.06.16
30 июнь 2016, 09:49(отредактировано)
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For those who did not read my previous comments: 


"The "yellowing" strategy itself is not an exploit!

And we have never meant to offend our fellow fair players.

There were SOME players, who have found the vulnerability by using the described strategy. There is a certain way how the system should work, how it's designed to work.

We are really sorry that your favorite strategy is affected by the change. However, this change was inevitable. You can still use it. The only difference now is that you will need to hit more Infestations to receive a payout.

I totally understand your confusion on this matter. You are fair players who really want to know more about the situation. Please ask your questions in this topic, and I will answer as soon as I get back here. "

I understand that it's hard to accept any changes. Especially if they are related to Infestations. You have probably mastered them after a long time and after putting so many efforts into them.

However, as we have mentioned, there were some players who were using an exploit. There is a certain way how the Infestations should work. But those players have found a vulnerability in the system.

Let me ensure you that you and other fair players who were using this strategy are not among those who have caused this change.

It was a hard decision to change the system when we knew that the changes will affect one of the most popular Infestations strategy. But it was necessary.

We strive to give the same opportunities to all players, and we had to make Infestations fair and equal for everyone.

Though you may need some time to adapt, you will soon notice that the new system is exactly the same as it was before, with one minor change which affected only 1-bar strategy.

If you have any other questions, please ask.

30 июнь 2016, 22:3030.06.16
13.12.14
1282

@ Biohazard


Is this blog now completely out of date?

Would it be possible to explain how much has changed .. for example, does the superbonus still exist and do infestations each have their own discrete payout amount?


http://plarium.com/en/ask-a-developer/plarium-game-algo/

1 июль 2016, 10:0801.07.16
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Danny said:

what is plarium going to do to find the balans in game back now "some" players found and used the vulnerability

 ?
We already took the necessary measures, Danny 
1 июль 2016, 10:0901.07.16
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leonlacey3737 said:

i agree there, i am not high in the infests but i still do them for troops and for torniments and i loose more troops then i gain and for me that messes me over when i saw the infest changes i thought it was gonna be loose less gain more but no its even worse, now i have to do the higher ones to get rewards and troops, this is rediculous.
Infestations work as they did before. If you used to raid lower levels, you can still raid them. 
15 июль 2016, 12:1515.07.16
18 июль 2016, 12:57(отредактировано)
24.02.15
9
BiohazarD said:

Morgoth said:

i was expecting answer to my comment and questions .. not to be deleted 

what are you going to do with raid system ?????
As far as I'm aware there aren't any changes planned to the raiding system. 
am talking about cheating in raid system using crystals 
18 июль 2016, 12:5918.07.16
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Morgoth said:

BiohazarD said:

Morgoth said:

i was expecting answer to my comment and questions .. not to be deleted 

what are you going to do with raid system ?????
As far as I'm aware there aren't any changes planned to the raiding system. 
am talking about cheating in raid system using crystals 
If you notice any suspicious activity, please report it to our Support Team, they will take the necessary measures.
22 июль 2016, 18:0722.07.16
3 авг. 2019, 12:07(отредактировано)
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its simple.  they lost money with infestations, so they changed the system. using crystals to raid makes money, so nothing will change . they say players took an unfair advantage but yet everyone had that same system/advantage. just some players took there message to figure it out yourself to heart. and did just that. taking a base form 2mill to 50mill using zero dollars within 2 week time.
30 июнь 2016, 23:5130.06.16
30 июнь 2016, 23:52(отредактировано)
04.10.13
3875

Tony Hobson said:


@ Biohazard


Is this blog now completely out of date?

Would it be possible to explain how much has changed .. for example, does the superbonus still exist and do infestations each have their own discrete payout amount?


http://plarium.com/en/ask-a-developer/plarium-game-algo/

Yes, you can still get a superbonus.  The catch is that the negative bank no longer resets periodically, so you will have to load all the troops you won back in before you can get another payout.  Because of this it is impossible to ever make a profit on the infests (unless of course you never do infests again after a big payout and just leave your bank in the negative).  Also, there is some kind of "tax" on all troops loaded into the infests, so generally you'll only win back about 90% of the troops you have loaded.  This adds up very quickly.  Each level 140 infest takes about 10 million offense or defense to kill.  So lets say you kill 5 of them before getting a full payout, meaning you've sent 50 million power to the infests.  If each one gives you a 1 mil mini-payout, then when you kill the fifth one you'd get about 41 million power back.  That plus the 4 mini payouts means you won a total of 45 million power back, and the other 5 million is lost to the tax (you can't win it back by hitting more infests, it's just gone). 

Each infest level doesn't have an exact payout amount (there is some variation) but it does have an approximate maximum value it will give you on a full payout.  Sometimes they pay out far less than this because of plarium's randomization factor, or don't pay out even when you have more than this loaded, and occasionally you'll get a much larger payout (usually in nemesis, tbolts, and exterms), but this is not considered profit since you have to load it back in before you can get any more payouts.  For level 10-125 this max is approximately 65*n^3.14 where n is the level of the infest, from level 125-140 it seems to go up more slowly, with the max being about 300 mil at level 140.  

Note: This is from my own research and has not been confirmed by plarium. 
30 июнь 2016, 10:5930.06.16
05.04.13
35

what is plarium going to do to find the balans in game back now "some" players found and used the vulnerability

 ?
26 июль 2016, 02:1726.07.16
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comments on infesting should be reserved for those who know what they are talking about.
26 июль 2016, 06:0426.07.16
26 июль 2016, 06:06(отредактировано)
04.10.13
3875
Infestations always average out to a loss (somewhere between 3-10%).  So they can be used to trade units, but if you keep hitting them eventually you'll end up with no troops left.  This is why it's important to have a plan before you start killing infests. 
30 июль 2016, 16:2130.07.16
31 июль 2016, 04:03(отредактировано)
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My plan is to quit this game if I cannot earn sinificant troops from infests.
31 июль 2016, 04:0531.07.16
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Imagine, finally getting that great payout (I doubt it) and you lose, say 30 mill on an emitter attack. Negative bank never resets so now you need to recruit 30 mill in troops just to bring your bank to zero. Um... that's like 47.28 years of recruiting at current speeds to begin earning new troops from infests. RFLMAO!!

PLARIUM?  may i get an answer?