Gadheras said:

I had great fun play red dead redemption and play cards, I had fun play The Wticher and play gwent... and so forth. difference is... I had no option to use my credit card to pay for chips and tickets.

you have many ways to get sapphires in game without using credit card so please be serious my thought is that all this is only for the pleasure of arguing.

Regards

Gadheras said:

Juglar del Viento said:

Dear Lords

i wonder how many of u plays another game in which you have to spin the roulette once at day and you win a boost. and i wonder how many can use that game currency to spin an extra round. and i wonder how many of you are considering that thas spinning roulette consider it gambling and if its illegal or not

and yep im sure that game is played by very younger people.

please be serious most of we are combing white hear long years ago.

Regards and enjoy

I had great fun play red dead redemption and play cards, I had fun play The Wticher and play gwent... and so forth. difference is... I had no option to use my credit card to pay for chips and tickets.

also in pirate quest 10 to 15 years ago, you could go to a gambling establishment:  you played with cash "game resource" that you had sunk ships, killed pirates or pick pocketed pirates to gain.  i am not posting in order to argue, juglar, what i am stating is that the entire game,{ other than quests, and tribute}  the entire game development by plarium is the exact model.  a vig taken by the house.  after quests and tribute everything else developed by plarium is a resource sink.  bots are the true growth path in this game, illegal bots, created by illegal players.

if anyone states "inactive",  it shows that they either cannot see the map as it is or they cannot understand supply and demand.  the fact is that there are not enough inactive level 50 to 80 castles out there for players to use as a growth path.

anyone who did not understand what i have been stating over the last 6 months should fully understand it now.  they did not even try to hide it this time.  when i saw the lottery in the events tab, it made me sick to my stomach.  i do not know the exact reason why,  but i know it does have to do with who plarium are at there core.  i meant to use are, it is not a grammatical error.

IronApex Turok said:

but like my lawyer said... you cant control which sapphires are free and which ones are real life money. so in the eyes of the law, its all real life money and gambling. 

f you still have any doubts or don't like it for some reason, you can continue playing the game without participating in Draws. It's up to you. We have implemented it to diversify gameplay experience and give players another entertainment in our game, along with a chance of winning big rewards. However, each player should decide which aspects of the game make his gaming experience comfortable and positive. 

I bet they can't give the name of a single winner, who didn't spend more then 5k in sapphires and won the big prize. Only people with the deep pockets win this type of rigged contest. Then those said players use the winnings to re-enter the contests and win more. That's the flaw in this type of gaming. It also means they rig this types of game system. (sad face)

I bet they can't give the name of a single winner, who didn't spend more then 5k in sapphires and won the big prize. Only people with the deep pockets win this type of rigged contest. Then those said players use the winnings to re-enter the contests and win more. That's the flaw in this type of gaming. It also means they rig this types of game system. (sad face)

ghost said:

I bet they can't give the name of a single winner, who didn't spend more then 5k in sapphires and won the big prize. Only people with the deep pockets win this type of rigged contest. Then those said players use the winnings to re-enter the contests and win more. That's the flaw in this type of gaming. It also means they rig this types of game system. (sad face)

Anyone can win. But those players who actively participate have higher chances. 

To Whom It May Concern: 

1. If a league or group of people find a way to Exploit or cheat the raffle system will there be a fix implemented?

I honestly dont care about the issue if its illegal or legal, I believe thats for lawyers and players who spend lots of money in this game to decide and that is there problem.... but i do care about people cheating the system... are you guys 100% sure the raffel is not being exploited....

why are people allowed to keep buying tickets periodically.... and why do I see the nearly the same people winning over and over.... seems fishy to me

here is an idea: Why is there not a legendary raffle where its like 100,000 tickets that cost like 10 sappires per ticket and ONLY 1 TICKET PER PERSON.

this event or new lotto or w/e you wana call it would of been so much better if it was FAIR, and not just a way for your company to make money off of coiners and the 1%, the rest of the 99% noone cares about.

the idea is good, i personally love to gamble... I go to real Casinos....but with the odds and prizes you guys set up ONLY A FOOL OR A RICH PERSON would fall for such a trap.

this is my opinion

Solid

gamblification

Just want to add....

For Alyona to lock a bunch of threads and gather the discussion into ONE thread, and then the new admin close that one as well with the conclusion of "because we say so its legal.", doesn't make it so.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

IronApex Turok said:

but like my lawyer said... you cant control which sapphires are free and which ones are real life money. so in the eyes of the law, its all real life money and gambling. 

If you still have any doubts or don't like it for some reason, you can continue playing the game without participating in Draws. It's up to you. We have implemented it to diversify gameplay experience and give players another entertainment in our game, along with a chance of winning big rewards. However, each player should decide which aspects of the game make his gaming experience comfortable and positive. 

you should also pay attention to every word chance imply risk

You can prove your words ? 

but like my lawyer said... you cant control which sapphires are free and which ones are real life money. so in the eyes of the law, its all real life money and gambling. 

Alyona, is the reality, put your feet on the ground that we all live on the same planet

at least it had to be 300k for win 300k (min considering the full price), each "casual"  extraction disappear many sapphires  from the prize pool

Where are they going?

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.

If you made a new type of currency ingame that could be only obtainable by ingame activties... why not use moon coins... then you could claim that, but as long as you use a currency that also can be purchased by real cash, then there is a issue tbh.

Would this even been an event if  people wouldn't spend cash on sapphires to buy tickets with? Please be honest now Alyona. We all know the answer to that, NO it wouldn't. the entire purpose is to get us the players to spend cash on sapphires to spend. 

The whole thing doesn't affect me, as I would NEVER spend on a thing like this, I rather would buy a lottery ticket in rl where I could win cash or what not benefit me in the real world. But this whole event is sending Plarium to a whole new low, just saying. Running out of ideas to milk us from cash?

Lords and Ladies, as was mentioned in all our previous responses, the Prize Draw is not to be considered any type of gambling. If you have any doubts or don't like this feature, you can continue playing the game without participating in Draws. It's up to you. Each player should decide which aspects of the game make his gaming experience comfortable and positive.

Eugenia Misura said:

Lords and Ladies, as was menationed in all our previous responses, the Prize Draw is not to be considered any type of gambling. If you have any doubts or don't like this feature, you can continue playing the game without participating in Draws. It's up to you. Each player should decide which aspects of the game make his gaming experience comfortable and positive.

telling us that crack isnt to be considered a drug doesnt it make it not a drug.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

FlyinTiger said:

No they don't.....  If I can only afford to buy one in the Express, that's a 1:100.  Whereas someone who buys 10... that's a 1:10.  Who do the odds favor now, Professor?

Each invested ticket has the same chances to be chosen a winning one. Some players may invest more tickets to increase their chances, but it doesn't mean that your chance of winning becomes less. It stays the same.

Each ticket has an equal chance to win.  In that sense, all players who participate have an equal chance to win.  

However, players are allowed to buy more than one ticket.  While each ticket has the same chance of winning, a player who holds 10 tickets has a greater chance of holding a winning ticket than a player who holds just one ticket.  Can that one ticket win?  Yes.  Is it more likely for the person holding 10 tickets to win?  Yes.  If someone else bought up all the remaining 89 tickets, would they have a better chance of holding a winning ticket than the guy who has 10?  Yes.  

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.

Alyona, is the reality, put your feet on the ground that we all live on the same planet

at least it had to be 300k for win 300k (min considering the full price), each "casual"  extraction disappear many sapphires  from the prize pool

Where are they going?

jumy said:

i can only see 1 page in winner, but ehy is amazing

randomness by Plarium

there are more chances that you drops a meteorite in the head

We have checked all similar situations. Nothing was wrong. Players actively participated in Draws and in many cases they invested more than 1 ticket. Each ticket has equal chances of winning. However, each player can buy multiple tickets to have better chances.

Jezebel said:

lol saph spending is obviously on the decline so you had to come up with some other way to get people to buy saphs and spend real money, you have reduced discounts further so you must find another way to make up the difference.

no more 50% discounts now they are 30% so I bet that really affected the spending, personally I like it, fewer fireballs in the game 

 I think its based on how often you buy. I don't buy very often and find I'm almost always offered 80% discount.  I find when I've just bought, if I check the next batch of offers, its dropped to 60%, but several months later, when I'm ready to buy again, its at 80%. If those sweet discounts are slowly going away, it'll take me quite a while to notice.

 I thought that was why so many fireballs come from lower level castles, often under the pink, returned player bubbles.  They are possibly alts or less active players who are getting sweet deals on sapphires compared to what those who spend regularly are asked to pay.

Guys, please re-read my reply once again. When we released Prize Draws, we made sure they won't go against any laws, so please stop making false accusations here. 

QUOTE:

One of the most importand conditions of Gambling is an ability to win real money (or some other values). As you can't convert in-game currency into the real money, Prize Draws cannot be classified as gambling.

Also, you do not invest real money in Draws. You invest tickets you buy for Sapphires that can be obtained via different in-game activities.