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17 апр. 2017, 18:5517.04.17
16.03.15
2
Erik Bloodaxe said:

Sir_bit_yakin said:


I would but we all know nothing will happen


the simplest answer is what I first suggested,  just NO attacking outside your tier


solves ALL the problems, simple, and the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing some values in the program


but its not going to happen

I've made a vow to myself,  I really enjoy the flag tourney, so I am going to play, but I WILL NOT be buying any jem packs, and ALSO until I can recover back to where I started at the beginning of the tourney I WILL NOT spend a single dime

if I lose BIG and they run this every 3 months or so they may NEVER see another  dime from me again

they see fit to PUNISH us smaller leagues, then I see NO reason to give them anything for it


last time I looked at the standings  two tier 4 leagues were holding 125 tier two flags...

we hit one of them and the fireballs started raining,  one guy said if we hit em again he'd fireball EVERY MEMBER of our league

they take OUR flags then get MAD when we are FORCED to try to take them back


its almost as if plarium is saying hey tier 2 people  you aren't really allowed to participate, we just needed someone for the big leagues to pound on so we gave you flags

Your attitude to these events seems self-destructive, but it also destroys your league mates too.

Ignore this stupid event and keep your fortress at level 8 with ZERO defense

Do not attack other forts, you will never be rewarded for your losses. It amazes me when idiots make attacks like this against strongly defended fortresses. He would get better rewards attacking battlegrounds.

http://prnt.sc/exgvgy


They lose 100% with no chance of accomplishing anything and no chance of any tournament rewards, so why do they do it? I have seen many similar attacks during Beacon Massacres

Lemmings?

Plarium need to give guaranteed rewards for the top ten in each tier, but it is their intention to destroy rewards for every tier in every tournament type

If these tournaments were half as popular as plarium pretends then they  would have been rolled out across all plarium games - they are only targeted at the big spenders like stormfall
Aimed at noobs with big credit cards because they do not require any skill


good advice if you don't want to play but if you do want to play the event then you need to defend your fortress to the point that a top league won't hit it or if they do they lose big - you can win at fortress events if played properly but you are right too many players take big risks on battles they won't win - the screen shot is a small hit they lost everything but it won't kill them - all plarium needs to do is prevent flags from being taken from leagues that are outside their tier but there are already so many bugs in the game from recent upgrades asking to fix a broken tournament would probably make the game unplayable lol
17 апр. 2017, 19:4517.04.17
17 апр. 2017, 19:50(отредактировано)
13.12.14
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Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

17 апр. 2017, 21:3817.04.17
17 апр. 2017, 21:40(отредактировано)
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Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

What I find more interesting is this :








Top leagues can take your flag... but you can not debuff them, only people within your own sub-sub group.




If any league can take another leagues flag, then that league should able to be debuffed by that league.

If a top tier team can captures our flag. Then by all means I should be able to debuff them if the opportunity arises...

19 апр. 2017, 02:0719.04.17
03.08.15
72
Snowgoon said:

Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.
19 апр. 2017, 11:1919.04.17
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scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

21 апр. 2017, 10:4421.04.17
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You changed that. Obviously you don't know for that change. I will not be surprised if developers don't know too.
21 апр. 2017, 19:3221.04.17
18.12.14
1835
brunsonthomas said:

Erik Bloodaxe said:

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up


http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.
lol I am pretty sure he was joking regarding the neo thing and someone has messed up (he is saying he can see the buffs/debuffs)  but I cant see any buffs applied to other leagues and I always could before - so yes something has changed - Plarium will let the entire server see our troop stats from the hero and experience upgrades but they hide the buffs and debuffs from everyone
21 апр. 2017, 23:4621.04.17
22 апр. 2017, 12:54(отредактировано)
13.12.14
1282

brunsonthomas said:


Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing


He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested


Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

22 апр. 2017, 17:0922.04.17
22 апр. 2017, 17:10(отредактировано)
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Snowgoon said:


brunsonthomas said:


Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing


He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested


Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/35979_your-suggestions---2-2/?post=271792

22 апр. 2017, 19:2122.04.17
22 апр. 2017, 19:31(отредактировано)
13.12.14
1282

brunsonthomas said:


Snowgoon said:


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. 

We all made dozens of suggestions when they added this 'event' and all were ignored

Why would we wish to keep banging our heads against this particular brick wall?

Sweeping it under the carpet will not make the problems go away
22 апр. 2017, 19:2722.04.17
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Snowgoon said:


brunsonthomas said:


Snowgoon said:


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. 

We all made dozens of suggestions when they added this 'event' and all were ignored

Why would we wish to keep banging our heads against this particular brick wall?

Hopefully with enough feedback changes can be made. Suggestions are one excellent way to get your opinion to the appropriate people to get action taken.


3 май 2017, 11:3903.05.17
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Not true
All leagues are FORCED to participate - only those leagues with level 5 or 8 forts can afford the luxury of leaving it deserted


Actually, you can choose to leave your Fortress without any Defense and lose a level or two...
26 июнь 2017, 02:4826.06.17
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Snowgoon said:


Not true
All leagues are FORCED to participate - only those leagues with level 5 or 8 forts can afford the luxury of leaving it deserted

You obviously did not bother to examine the screenshot that showed fortress attacks using defensive units and spies and losing 100% with no chance of victory.

Suicide raids like this can accomplish nothing even when pvp tournaments are running - they cannot hope to justify their losses

Also, adding pvp events at the same time is a recent development which proves how unwanted these flag tournaments really are - why bother adding pvp if flag tournaments were popular?
The flag tournament and beacon massacre were designed for hopelessly addicted coiners, and their 'rewards' will never cover their losses


p.s. If your league does not bother to defend then you should lose all flags during the final 5 minutes, and snatching a few flags from weaker leagues would give zero pvp points, so your boasts make no sense

since 90% of the fortress's out there are lvl 5 or 8 that only leaves a few who get downgraded during this event, sorry to those few but they were going to get hit anyhow so whether during this tournament or two days later that was going to happen anyhow

no I didn't look at the screenshot, since it doesn't apply to me or my league, we don't do suicide raids

maybe I haven't been around long enough but so far every single capture the flag tourney I have played in had a PVP tourney running along side it...


as for your PS.   not true, you cannot have ALL our flags taken in the last 5 min of the game or even the last hour of the game as you get a min  1 hr attack protection after a successful attack

so long as you have 2 flags within an hr of the end of the event you WILL have at least one flag at the end


and in tier 3 - 5 one flag will put you in the top ten

30 июнь 2017, 19:2930.06.17
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Stiletto said:

Sir_bit_yakin said:


as for your PS.   not true, you cannot have ALL our flags taken in the last 5 min of the game or even the last hour of the game as you get a min  1 hr attack protection after a successful attack

so long as you have 2 flags within an hr of the end of the event you WILL have at least one flag at the end


and in tier 3 - 5 one flag will put you in the top ten

So why does this non-event last 4 days?

This is from Farwols server and shows 20 pages of leagues with no flags, 4 leages with 1-11 flags and ONE league with EVERY other flag

Seems to me there are only 5 or 6 players who give a damn about this pile of garbage, and tier 3 - 5 league stand no chance of capturing any flags

http://prntscr.com/fq19eg

It is an event that most leagues do not like but enough people enjoy the challenge of taking all of the Flags on the server within 5 minutes. For this reason the Flag Tournament will stay, because the followup event is usually a Beacon Massacre that many use as an excuse to destroy their troops and anyone else who has troops in their way. 
2 июль 2017, 21:0802.07.17
2 июль 2017, 21:12(отредактировано)
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Limad said:


It might make more sense at this point to make a few changes to the format. Say, don't announce when it's going to start and then just have an in-game popup that says "Capture the Flag has started. The contest will run for the next 60 mins". The start times could be randomized each time to give players in different times zones a chance to be online at the right time. Then it would become a proper guerrilla-style feature where people are scrambling to get organised rather than the current thing which is over almost before it begins. And then it lingers on pointlessly for over 3 days. 

I have to point out, this is my experience on server 3, but I imagine the same thing plays out everywhere. At this point it's just an occasional set of weekly rewards for the same leagues each time. And I say this as a member of one of those leagues. 

You cannot imagine the mayhem that would cause. Most leagues that are able to protect their Fortress and Flag often spend hours organizing their defense and strategy. Which hour would the most players be on line or the least amount of players? This would cause havoc and your league may not be one that benefits. I do not enjoy the Flag tournament or the Beacon Massacres. Yes, I play both server 1 and server 2. I have not played server 3 as there are enough hours in a day to play more games. 

The other problem with your idea is that the leagues get buffs and debuffs from this event to plan for subsequent Beacon events. Your suggested way would cause serious problems in large leagues. It would not make the game more fair it would make it a game of chance that would only work for those who happen to be online when the announcement is made.
3 июль 2017, 04:2103.07.17
21.10.14
127
Limad said:

Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

Also it could give leagues who aren't as strong in numbers to have a chance to grab some flags... Not just get theirs taken by a pikeman at 4am...
25 дек. 2017, 21:0925.12.17
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at the beginning of this thread the rules were post   this is one of them I found to be NOT TRUE


"NOTE: There are no restrictions on attacking a League Fortress that has your League’s Flag. "


screenshot show that statement to be WRONG


https://prntscr.com/hs6enr

26 дек. 2017, 12:2626.12.17
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Sir_bit_yakin said:


at the beginning of this thread the rules were post   this is one of them I found to be NOT TRUE


"NOTE: There are no restrictions on attacking a League Fortress that has your League’s Flag. "


screenshot show that statement to be WRONG


https://prntscr.com/hs6enr

Hello!

Please report this issue to our Support team: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/bug-reports/

27 дек. 2017, 23:2327.12.17
11.12.15
23
Limad said:

Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

Strongly agree with you here.  Do away with the countdown and let it drop without warning.  
28 дек. 2017, 10:0328.12.17
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cannedam said:


Limad said:


Let's agree to disagree. My point is that it would be more fun it if wasn't flagged (pun) days in advance. Chaos is good. 

Strongly agree with you here.  Do away with the countdown and let it drop without warning.  

Hello :)

Don't think the majority of players will be happy with removing the warning. Plus, some players can just meet the Tournament as they weren't logged in in time and didn't know the Tournament will take place.