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12 нояб. 2017, 08:3412.11.17
13 нояб. 2017, 11:16(отредактировано)
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djmoody said:


But anyway we digress, Can't be bothered to reiterate the whole thing..................

The game is in a complete mess due to the imbalance of offence over defence. Why people (mainly Plarium in this case) suggest going out of there way to further handicap defence is to miss the major problems facing the game.

you know, those epic fights... 
12 нояб. 2017, 09:0912.11.17
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Well this is all very upsetting, but what ticks me off the most is I didn't get to see the great scribe DJ's original post...for God sake STOP CAPPING DJ...'sigh' inimitable knowledge gone forever:(((
13 нояб. 2017, 12:3113.11.17
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Almericus said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Jezebel said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Almericus said:


I have seen this happening on the FB servers, is this now happening across all Plarium servers?


Hello.

No, it's not :) People here just want to discuss the feature itself.
So somehow i skipped past this - it is not happening on this server?  If it does happen will all Marshalls be notified or will it just be posted on the forums where only a small percentage of players will see it?

Hello.

When the feature is added to the game, the News will be posted on the Forum, plus added to the game.

Moreover, you'll be able to see the activity of your League in The Embassy > My League > Warriors window.

WHEN and IF are not the same. Can you confirm that there are plans to add this to Dark Plains. All the talk of here and there just muddies the water
There are no such plans for the near future.
15 нояб. 2017, 01:4915.11.17
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Alina Phoenix said:

toggit said:


Alina Phoenix said:


There are no such plans for the near future.

Maybe you need to talk to Sergey?

or maybe your reluctance to add it here proves that the entire idea was an epic failure?




Hello.

I don't see that Sergey told that these features will be added to plarium.com servers soon. 

Yes, they more likely will be added in the future, but not in the near future.

Also, Facebook and plarium.com are different platforms and different features can be added to them.

so are there plans or no?   if they will more than likely be added.... why are you even saying there are no plans.   you are being contradictory now. 
15 нояб. 2017, 01:5015.11.17
03.08.14
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IronApex Turok said:


Alina Phoenix said:


toggit said:


Alina Phoenix said:


There are no such plans for the near future.

Maybe you need to talk to Sergey?

or maybe your reluctance to add it here proves that the entire idea was an epic failure?




Hello.

I don't see that Sergey told that these features will be added to plarium.com servers soon. 

Yes, they more likely will be added in the future, but not in the near future.

Also, Facebook and plarium.com are different platforms and different features can be added to them.

so are there plans or no?   if they will more than likely be added.... why are you even saying there are no plans.   you are being contradictory now. 

can you escalate this discussion to the devs and get back to us with a firm answer. 


short of that, at this point, you need not reply on this matter until you have a firm answer from the devs. 
22 нояб. 2017, 12:2622.11.17
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Hello.

We have a good tradition of sharing our plans for the new features and changes in the game at the end of the year.

Taking into account that the New Year is coming, we're working on the video with the plans for 2018 :)

Also, we're thinking about adding beta-testing for players in our games as well. So, chances are high that it will happen in the future :)

22 нояб. 2017, 19:1222.11.17
04.10.13
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djmoody said:

Given most long players are dropping out of the game from bordem is it worth starting to share the product roadmap with us?

Even beta games from tiny developers have schedules of planned content releases and updates as to how these are coming.

Plarium communication - zero. In so many ways you need to start valuing your customers and treating us well (or at least at a level your average competitor does).
Can you imagine if plarium published a change log for each update, including whenever they've made changes to the bg mechanics?  That would be interesting, to say the least.  
22 нояб. 2017, 19:1522.11.17
22 нояб. 2017, 20:03(отредактировано)
04.11.15
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Alina Phoenix said:


I don't see that Sergey told that these features will be added to plarium.com servers soon. 

Yes, they more likely will be added in the future, but not in the near future.

Sergey made 2 posts on this subject. One was later edited and the other was deleted


However, something needs to be done to remove inactive League Marshals in Stormfall, but 14 days is absurd
No player should be automatically classified as inactive unless they have failed to login for a month or more

If the marshal cannot be replaced with an active league officer then the league should be dismissed
This should be your first priority, The full feature should never be added here without a lot of changes


Also, inactive defense returned from Fortresses needs to be sent directly to Catacombs, not Keeps

22 нояб. 2017, 22:5322.11.17
23 нояб. 2017, 13:18(отредактировано)
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Alina Phoenix said:


Hello.

We have a good tradition of sharing our plans for the new features and changes in the game at the end of the year.

Taking into account that the New Year is coming, we're working on the video with the plans for 2018 :)

Also, we're thinking about adding beta-testing for players in our games as well. So, chances are high that it will happen in the future :)

Since July of 2015 when I started play this game, I have hardly seen any significant or noteworthy changes or upgrades to the game to enhance the player expereince. I seen a lot of "improvement and changes" that been a push for players to spend more sapphires, but not to really enhance the gaming experience or give us more things to do. In case you missed it, players need to feel a sense of achievement and completion, or at least progress towards something. This game fail on every aspect of that, because the biggest hurdle for players is how much money they can afford to spend. And yet if they do, their mighty coined army might be gone in the blink of an eye from a much bigger coined one. 


Coining is fine in a game as long as it just compensate for "time and effort", but when "time and effort" can't compete with spending, you get serious problems. Earlier it was talk about some item in a thread that was supposed to be protection vs fireballs, and I asked you would it come with a price tag? You said you didn't know, but come on, we both know it will. 

Plarium does keep serve us NOTHINGBURGER, And it doesn't taste any good anylonger... (I'm sorry the image was considered trolling and removed, but you know a picture speak a thousand words, I guess I have to settle with capital letters).


Like Roadstar Pittbull I seem to have missed this tradition too. Now for your videos. I took some time and watched some of your youtube videos. Maybe Im just paranoid by nature, but quite a few of the "positive" comment sin the comment fields, seems like blatant self promotion from Plarium itself. Like someone give themself a positive review for own product. 


If Plarium want something else than coal in their xmas stockings this year, they better turn around for the better.

23 нояб. 2017, 13:3623.11.17
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Alina Phoenix said:

Gadheras said:



Like Roadstar Pittbull I seem to have missed this tradition too. Now for your videos. I took some time and watched some of your youtube videos. Maybe Im just paranoid by nature, but quite a few of the "positive" comment sin the comment fields, seems like blatant self promotion from Plarium itself. Like someone give themself a positive review for own product. 


If Plarium want something else than coal in their xmas stockings this year, they better turn around for the better.

Hello.

As it was already said for many times, the majority of the features in the game can be obtained without using of in-game purchases.

I'm not denying that players who are using in-game purchases can get the things faster, can get Units faster, can achieve something faster. But it doesn't mean that you can't get the same things.

It's more the question of attitude. If you're afraid that a stronger player will come and destroy your Army then keep it in Catacombs and play Farmville.

 Note that not always stronger players mean players who used a lot of in-game purchases to get their army. Of course, it's easier to say that everything is for coiners then look on the feature or game from another point of view and think how this or that feature can be obtained via the game itself. But, once again it's the question of attitude.


Tbh, I don't know if I should laugh of cry. You are right the players leaving your game, they didn't go to play farmville, but they sure did go play something else. The question you should ask yoursel fis why did they do that?
24 нояб. 2017, 11:4624.11.17
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roadstar Pitbull said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Gadheras said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Hello.

We have a good tradition of sharing our plans for the new features and changes in the game at the end of the year.

Taking into account that the New Year is coming, we're working on the video with the plans for 2018 :)

Also, we're thinking about adding beta-testing for players in our games as well. So, chances are high that it will happen in the future :)

Since July of 2015 when I started play this game, I have hardly seen any significant or noteworthy changes or upgrades to the game to enhance the player expereince. I seen a lot of "improvement and changes" that been a push for players to spend more sapphires, but not to really enhance the gaming experience or give us more things to do. In case you missed it, players need to feel a sense of achievement and completion, or at least progress towards something. This game fail on every aspect of that, because the biggest hurdle for players is how much money they can afford to spend. And yet if they do, their mighty coined army might be gone in the blink of an eye from a much bigger coined one. 


Coining is fine in a game as long as it just compensate for "time and effort", but when "time and effort" can't compete with spending, you get serious problems. Earlier it was talk about some item in a thread that was supposed to be protection vs fireballs, and I asked you would it come with a price tag? You said you didn't know, but come on, we both know it will. 

Plarium does keep serve us 

Trolling picture was removed by CM.

And it doesn't taste any good anylonger...


Like Roadstar Pittbull I seem to have missed this tradition too. Now for your videos. I took some time and watched some of your youtube videos. Maybe Im just paranoid by nature, but quite a few of the "positive" comment sin the comment fields, seems like blatant self promotion from Plarium itself. Like someone give themself a positive review for own product. 


If Plarium want something else than coal in their xmas stockings this year, they better turn around for the better.

Hello.

As it was already said for many times, the majority of the features in the game can be obtained without using of in-game purchases.

I'm not denying that players who are using in-game purchases can get the things faster, can get Units faster, can achieve something faster. But it doesn't mean that you can't get the same things.

It's more the question of attitude. If you're afraid that a stronger player will come and destroy your Army then keep it in Catacombs and play Farmville.

 Note that not always stronger players mean players who used a lot of in-game purchases to get their army. Of course, it's easier to say that everything is for coiners then look on the feature or game from another point of view and think how this or that feature can be obtained via the game itself. But, once again it's the question of attitude.

As for the video,

> Maybe Im just paranoid by nature

You're right. It seems to be the reason as all comments under the videos are left by players. 

Yet another condescending opinion from a plarium staffer...

FARMVILLE while talking to Gadheras??? And still in denial of the game play in a "real" and not the 'test' server.


As for comments on videos, I'm very sure (without checking) that it is the same ratio of newer players that we see in the forum post for such things. MANY just created profiles, saying how great the game is,,, I also wonder how manyof those are held by plarium staff, or "friends"...

> I also wonder how many of those are held by plarium staff, or "friends"...

None 

This thread turned off in the off-topic one. So, all the further comments that are not related to the League activity feature will be removed.

If you have anything to add regarding the feature itself, you're welcome.

25 нояб. 2017, 02:5325.11.17
04.10.13
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toggit said:

My league needs help, not nerfing

High level active players are leaving this game every day because plarium do not listen

But plarium only listens to the coiners and VIP customers

Normal players have no cash value, so we do not exist




If your league's members have been gone for over 300 days, maybe plarium is doing you a favor by getting rid of them.  I'm pretty sure that's exactly the sort of dead league this change is meant to get rid of.  
11 дек. 2017, 12:1911.12.17
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Stiletto said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Almericus said:


Alina Phoenix said:




There are such concepts as long-term plans and short-term plans. 

If we are to accept the above statement as true, then this:

If we talk about short-term plans, no devs don't plan to add this feature.

and this:

If we talk about long-term plans, yes, devs are considering this feature to be added to plarium.com as well. 

could well be considered spam, trolling or just plain old contradiction (just saying)

Hello!

So, what exactly is contradicting here? 

There are no short-term plans for adding this feature. It means that in the near future it won't be added.

But there are long-term plans for it. It means that in the future (not the near one) this feature is considered to be added to plarium.com as well.

Seems to be quite a logical statement :)

If you break this down into smaller steps then it will be welcomed by all

The problems are created because you tried to do everything in 14 days, which is impossible for many leagues


Totally inactive leagues could be removed immediately

Inactive league marshalls should be replaced immediately

All level zero fortresses should be removed immediately

All of these would be in the best interest of the game


Casual and semi active players, however, should NOT be branded as inactive and booted by knee-jerking marshals for fear of losing their Leagues
If a semi-active league has a new marshal appointed then they should be given plenty of time to reorganize
The last thing they need is a Damocles Sword hanging over them

Also, Official recognition should be given to League Mergers, creating a brand new league with the best Fortress and Achievements transferred, one marshall and possibly a vice-marshal and a new league name available
All active full members should be transferred to the new league, and retain their original rank/role if possible

An option to double the size of neophyte academy would help too

Hello.

On the opposite, I don't think that removing anything immediately is a good idea. These 4 weeks are given for Leagues to increase their activity and avoid dismissal.

> Casual and semi-active players, however, should NOT be branded as inactive and booted by knee-jerking marshals for fear of losing their Leagues

This part is more about League management. If a League Marshal knows that this player is usually n active one, but now he suddenly isn't loginnng to the game for more than 2 weeks, he can do not remove this player (if it doesn't make the League activity below 60%). If inactivity of this player puts the whole League in a risk to be dismissed, the League Marshal can wait for another 12-13 days, and if a player still doesn't login, move him to Neophyte. 

> If a semi-active league has a new marshal appointed then they should be given plenty of time to reorganize

The last thing they need is a Damocles Sword hanging over them.

If the new Marshal is appointed and the activity of the League is above 60%, they have all the time they need for reorganization.

> Also, Official recognition should be given to League Mergers, creating a brand new league with the best Fortress and Achievements transferred, one marshall and possibly a vice-marshal and a new league name available . All active full members should be transferred to the new league, and retain their original rank/role if possible.

I don't think it will be added to the game as it will allow creating a very powerful Leagues at once, plus technically it's difficult to add such feature to the game.

> An option to double the size of neophyte academy would help too

This suggestion was forwarded to devs already ;)
8 дек. 2017, 17:2608.12.17
8 дек. 2017, 18:14(отредактировано)
20.02.17
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Alina Phoenix said:


Almericus said:


Alina Phoenix said:




There are such concepts as long-term plans and short-term plans. 

If we are to accept the above statement as true, then this:

If we talk about short-term plans, no devs don't plan to add this feature.

and this:

If we talk about long-term plans, yes, devs are considering this feature to be added to plarium.com as well. 

could well be considered spam, trolling or just plain old contradiction (just saying)

Hello!

So, what exactly is contradicting here? 

There are no short-term plans for adding this feature. It means that in the near future it won't be added.

But there are long-term plans for it. It means that in the future (not the near one) this feature is considered to be added to plarium.com as well.

Seems to be quite a logical statement :)

If you break this down into smaller steps then it will be welcomed by all

The problems are created because you tried to do everything in 14 days, which is impossible for many leagues


Totally inactive leagues could be removed immediately

Inactive league marshalls should be replaced immediately

All level zero fortresses should be removed immediately

All of these would be in the best interest of the game


Casual and semi active players, however, should NOT be branded as inactive and booted by knee-jerking marshals for fear of losing their Leagues
If a semi-active league has a new marshal appointed then they should be given plenty of time to reorganize
The last thing they need is a Damocles Sword hanging over them

Also, Official recognition should be given to League Mergers, creating a brand new league with the best Fortress and Achievements transferred, one marshall and possibly a vice-marshal and a new league name available
All active full members should be transferred to the new league, and retain their original rank/role if possible

An option to double the size of neophyte academy would help too

7 дек. 2017, 11:2707.12.17
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Almericus said:


Alina Phoenix said:




There are such concepts as long-term plans and short-term plans. 

If we are to accept the above statement as true, then this:

If we talk about short-term plans, no devs don't plan to add this feature.

and this:

If we talk about long-term plans, yes, devs are considering this feature to be added to plarium.com as well. 

could well be considered spam, trolling or just plain old contradiction (just saying)

Hello!

So, what exactly is contradicting here? 

There are no short-term plans for adding this feature. It means that in the near future it won't be added.

But there are long-term plans for it. It means that in the future (not the near one) this feature is considered to be added to plarium.com as well.

Seems to be quite a logical statement :)
14 март 2018, 17:1614.03.18
18.12.14
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toggit said:


My league needs help, not nerfing

High level active players are leaving this game every day because plarium do not listen

But plarium only listens to the coiners and VIP customers

Normal players have no cash value, so we do not exist




The best advice I can give is to try to claim ownership of the league with Plarium's help or have your actives leave and join leagues that are active


We have room for more active players :)
15 март 2018, 08:1715.03.18
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Thanks for the reply, Alina.  I was not aware that that Fortress returns are sent to catacombs now.  Is this true for all troop return reasons, or only when the Marshal is the one that sends the troops home?   For example...if the player recalls the troops from the fortress or if the player is booted by another league member, with the fortress troops also return to the Catacombs?  Just looking for clarification :)
15 март 2018, 11:2115.03.18
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Aegon Targaryen said:


Thanks for the reply, Alina.  I was not aware that that Fortress returns are sent to catacombs now.  Is this true for all troop return reasons, or only when the Marshal is the one that sends the troops home?   For example...if the player recalls the troops from the fortress or if the player is booted by another league member, with the fortress troops also return to the Catacombs?  Just looking for clarification :)

When you recall the Units from Fortress, they will be returned to Castle. But if you were kicked from the League, they will be returned to Catacombs. 

15 март 2018, 18:4715.03.18
13.12.14
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Alina Phoenix said:


Aegon Targaryen said:


Thanks for the reply, Alina.  I was not aware that that Fortress returns are sent to catacombs now.  Is this true for all troop return reasons, or only when the Marshal is the one that sends the troops home?   For example...if the player recalls the troops from the fortress or if the player is booted by another league member, with the fortress troops also return to the Catacombs?  Just looking for clarification :)

When you recall the Units from Fortress, they will be returned to Castle. But if you were kicked from the League, they will be returned to Catacombs. 

So why do you deliberately create anomalies like this which cause confusion and mistakes?

All units from beacons go to the catacombs, so why not fortress too?

6 дек. 2017, 22:1806.12.17
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Alina Phoenix said:




There are such concepts as long-term plans and short-term plans. 

If we are to accept the above statement as true, then this:

If we talk about short-term plans, no devs don't plan to add this feature.

and this:

If we talk about long-term plans, yes, devs are considering this feature to be added to plarium.com as well. 

could well be considered spam, trolling or just plain old contradiction (just saying)

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