My lord Gadheras,

You made an amazing start on the topic here, not just because it's long text, also because it has a meaning that is very important for everyone. I'm glad you didn't leave the game yet, I'm striving to get those things resolved, striving to get the customers and the creators more like a team.

It will be a difficult task for me, hence I ask for your, and not just you alone but all the player's assistance. Alongside with the moderation, CM, administrator and development team. I think this definitely needs a positive twist. I've heard a lot of people complain about the changes, which is the biggest reason why I made this topic. I wanted to show Plarium how the customers feel, and give the possibility for them to reply on it as it's really important to have at least a connection between them.

I also thought of making a Representative Team. This team will be chosen players by votes from other players. Moderators, CM's and Administrators should not be allowed to vote on their desired candidates, because that will basically be the same idea as Moderators then. This team should be in direct contact with the Moderators or CM's. The purpose of this team is speaking for all the players, just like how it goes in the real world, at least in the Netherlands where I live. The Representative Team should be good listeners, and should check the forums and regular chats frequently to see if people desire something. Once they actually found something players desire, they should refer it to Moderators/CM's and those should pass it around and see what the CM's think of it. The Representative Team should obviously attempt to persuade the CM's for their desired idea!

But I wasn't sure if it'd work on here. Anyhow, it's worth and try and thus I'll put up a thread in the Suggestions topic and see what everyone thinks of that. I'll also pass the above standing idea to the CM's and see what they think of it!

Thumbs up for you, Gadheras! 

since the game I realized some things, plarium blinded by money

there is the potential to refine and improve but do not know what you do, all new "Dragon stone" was a nice evolution for obelisk where you need to grow in order to have but if ye try change it make a new trouble

New obligated tree  and how are given the quests depicts how ye see this game (for free) in a strategical game !! ye added 200 things 190 useless and unusable, you can use 6 but only for 3  forced hours and when sblock slot, need only time and not grown

New upgrade buildings: in black market found all solutions for buy resources, buildings are my castle and i not pay for them, i also paid for craftsmen and now to exploit need other pay?

ye have other good solutions to improved +%.... in black market found good solutions for this

Paragon status: i pay for use but need pay more for use what i earn, my benefits?

Eagle nets: 

what is the point? give meaning or ye wait for my boost and pay again? a small idea on the fly, in 70mi increase speed of my troops x10 (not the best solution but better than nothing)

Trainning units: 

these useless buildings .... upgrade them for bonus? not for pay eh, need proportionally to the growth for all, lv 81? in black market/bank found good solutions for buy troops

now go to upgrade my new lost art Dominion: for what?

ah no lol need paragon status for gain benefits -.-

I hope you get the idea of what i mean, looks in 2 minutes how many "improvements" could do without making us feel idiots, these are "improvements and evolving" the game and not only all for pay, if pay i can buy all (already existing all) also plarium (totally wrong direction)

The only compliment that i would make is to the artists is about the arts style, does much to dream than the game 

but anyway always all a good work

bgs changing: other points for dimostration, when ppl take feelling need a change or have poor lose for plarium (bad directions), if rewards with troops i use them..... triggers the mechanism for a good game and involved to spend

@ ALYONA

I assume all changes to the game get pushed to all the Plarium games in one for or the other. So changes we ask for that wouldn't necessary be good in Pirates, Sparta and so on get auto rejected? Correct?

If so, wouldn't it be better to have each game go their own direction with own changes?

*****

The dragon stone is a good start to turn based Pvp, but i'd like to see a grid lay out battle field and let us pit our offense against a castle and its defenders kind of like a game of chess. I'd like to see players be able to go head to head in a battle of tactics. in this way, and smart player could overcome a larger offense, or larger defense by careful use of troops and moves.

You already put down my mind, but I wanr to verify.

It's no longer a game, it's a shop. In the last months, there were a lot of useless, unnecessary items / features added to the black market / game. Some of them destroy the warfare. It would give more fun to the players if they would fix bugs and increase the performance. 30 seconds to take the reward for 1 daily mission is morbid.

Hamlets are pretty useless compared to the old pits and so. There are three major points.

- the increased distance. You are not able to hit them, even using boosters (which you have to buy).

- collecting resources. You can only collect with an amount of troops which are dedicated target during pvp. A lot of players will revive their units (only available for sapphs)

- no longer possible to take out someone's offense because they return automatically. Deff units do not  count during attack

So the winner is Plarium.

The cost of sapphs are totally unbalanced across the countries (depends on the home country of Plarium).

Dragon arts are nice but pretty useless because they are only active for 3 hours.

Plarium has to increase actions to prevent cheating / hacking.

Sketches and tokens should be available through quests.

Other so called f2p offer the possibility to buy a lot of the items (which are only available for a fee) with earned res.

Some months ago I provable lost some sapphs because of a bug, but the support says there is no bug. They always say there is no bug, so they dont have to compensate.

Someone wrote that Plarium is blinded by the money. THAT'S TRUE.

BUT as long as there are many people spending money, they won't stop. The medium of the players to demand something from the developer is to stop spending money.

Plarium removed several items from the wheel of fortune. ALL items that are only available for sapphs should be available in the wheel of fortune.

BG's. I needed a lot of time to understand the old bg system. But I didnt come to terms with the new one. So what about new players while experienced players still have problems with the system?

etc.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

But please, give it a chance. Some of the new game features may differ from what you're used to, but they are designed to diversify the gameplay, and make our game more interesting and exciting.

I'm sure that you will like most of them if you can adapt your strategy.

It wouldn't been so bad if the cost wasn't so excessive. For the simplest comparsion, go to steam, then just browse the featured list of games, then just start compare price of what you can get for your moneys worth. Just take Age of Wonders III that probably the closest you get to Stormfall in setting as example. 

New game features mean little if we the players can't really afford to explore them much. This game take a long time to play, thus it would made far more sense to keep us have to invest less but more over time.  It's really pointless to discuss, but Plarium got over priced games, and that is the bottom line of things.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

But please, give it a chance. Some of the new game features may differ from what you're used to, but they are designed to diversify the gameplay, and make our game more interesting and exciting.

I'm sure that you will like most of them if you can adapt your strategy.

It wouldn't been so bad if the cost wasn't so excessive. For the simplest comparsion, go to steam, then just browse the featured list of games, then just start compare price of what you can get for your moneys worth. Just take Age of Wonders III that probably the closest you get to Stormfall in setting as example. 

New game features mean little if we the players can't really afford to explore them much. This game take a long time to play, thus it would made far more sense to keep us have to invest less but more over time.  It's really pointless to discuss, but Plarium got over priced games, and that is the bottom line of things.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

You've got a point here, but let's don't forget about all the opportunities to get free Sapphires. Of course, you can't get 100k in a week, but you can move by little steps.

you realize what happens if i spend and take a strategy? Plarium change all random and i spend for nothing, money and time

these are updates and fix "bugs" by plarium

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

But please, give it a chance. Some of the new game features may differ from what you're used to, but they are designed to diversify the gameplay, and make our game more interesting and exciting.I'm sure that you will like most of them if you can adapt your strategy.

Yes, they diversified the gameplay but not in a good manner.

For example hamlets. There is no way to adapt my strategy WITHOUT costs. Hunting for hamlets cost you a lot of time, patience and drawing blanks or sapphs. It's just annoying.

Time ago you got some sapphs for daily logging in. It was a little bit more profitable for the players and it would empower us to enjoy "new features", at least occasional.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

But please, give it a chance. Some of the new game features may differ from what you're used to, but they are designed to diversify the gameplay, and make our game more interesting and exciting.I'm sure that you will like most of them if you can adapt your strategy.

Yes, they diversified the gameplay but not in a good manner.

For example hamlets. There is no way to adapt my strategy WITHOUT costs. Hunting for hamlets cost you a lot of time, patience and drawing blanks or sapphs. It's just annoying.

Time ago you got some sapphs for daily logging in. It was a little bit more profitable for the players and it would empower us to enjoy "new features", at least occasional.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

But you can still get free Sapphires for daily log ind: On days 30, 60, 90. 

Yeah, but it's not comparable to  the past. It's all smoke and mirrors.

the game has become utterly boring and cluttered with what amounts to pop up ads trying to get you to buy saphires.

every aspect of the game is an attempt to squeeze sapphires out of the player.

Nobody is forcing you to play every day. It's always your choice. And Daily Loyalty Roll is not a basic game feature. It's an incentive for everyday players, but nothing more.

That is ALonya's horrible attitude toward players that i was referring too in the post that was deleted.

deleting posts criticizing your attitude definately says something about your bad attitude.

roadstar Pitbull said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Nobody is forcing you to play every day. It's always your choice. And Daily Loyalty Roll is not a basic game feature. It's an incentive for everyday players, but nothing more.

This is perhaps the most poignant statement you have made to date.

Perhaps me and a few other will take you up on this.... this last update was complete waste on the time it takes to login.

Show me where in all this forum ANYONE asked for heroes or changes to header bar...

actually i suggested heroes however nothing from my suggestion made it to the update

i suggested a lot of features and content where you get to play it however what they delivered is a hero that effects your troops stats 

lol we already have dragon arts / obelisk / runes / lost arts to do what the hero does 

 sooooo

no real strategy no new game play but of course it is nice to have an avatar they didn't even bother to add special abilities no all you do is change its appearance and you have to pay sapphs to do that (after the free time)

The game is about alts and how much time you have to play those alts. Also the new additions for the game are for people with no real world lives and need this game to feel they important on this planet. 

i was planning to invest my free sapphires in sketches for upgrade market and raid more resources

the number of alts grows exponentially (a number like plarium? + 1000% fast), all my zone is almost destroyed and i can not find resources on both castles, they raid also for only 10k.....

game unplayable in each side

Danger said:

Well, I've been playing since May 2015, and it's been fun but the game's gone  badly downhill in my opinion, especially in the past few months.

I wasn't too pleased that Plarium stopped the mega-payouts from the BGs.  They used to be a nice way to get ahead, and I had just started to figure them out when Plarium turned them into just another bottomless pit to throw one's troops for negative-sum returns.  Ok, so I stopped doing BGs, and even the Heroes aren't enough to entice me back to them, but that's not the end of the game.  

What really killed it for me though is that the game crashes constantly now since the last big round of changes that came along with the Heroes.  Stormfall is near-unplayable now, and far from being fun.  I've scaled back to maintenance mode.  I'm already using Chrome, and it's been less problematic with Stormfall than Firefox or IE, but even Chrome can't save the game for me now.

Even something as simple as running resource raids is painful, and doing something time-sensitive like actually battling other players is downright suicidal.  Trying to read, let alone reply to email is an exercise in rage, and chat isn't much better.  The chat and email widgets were some of the weaker links in the game before but now it's at a point where I have to compose even the most trivial message in Notepad then paste it into the game so I don't have to recompose it over and over again.  After trying to do or say something 2 or 3 times and having the game lock up each time, my attention tends to wander while I'm waiting for the next reload to other more rewarding things, like poking myself in the eye with a sharp stick.

For me at least, if Plarium doesn't fix Stormfall's progressively more abysmal browser-crashing performance, no amount of nifty new features are going to matter at all.

Ready to check out,

-d

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Gadheras said:

jumy said:

remember the fight club?

first rule Plarium club: do not spend money or we make you realize how much you idiot

Nothing wrong with have a game with a payment model, just... it need to be fair business. As a customer you want fun and VALUE for your money. Now they wrecked the tournies so bad they cant even claim "you can earn sapphires over time" anylonger.

It is my experience here .... Plarium not worth 1 my euro now, i feel an idiot