Marcel Stokvis said:

djmoody said:

Sir Crusher said:

Since then, Plarium has graciously resurrected Bobthedog's legendary troops.

Sorry - but the "reward" for breaking the game rules and account sharing is to have troops revived?

Presumably this is a VIP advantage for spending obscene amounts of money, when the correct response would be to ban the account for quite serious rule breaking (which then has led to waste of Plarium support time, that could have been directed to a player with a real issue). As usual money talks. 

I have zero sympathy for losses due to account sharing. Quite simply, don't give out your account details. If you do and it goes wrong you get what you deserve. 

On a side note I played C&C Tiberium alliances for the last year. They have an in-game substitution feature which allows you to name a substitute. You substitute can log into your game and keep your account ticking if you go on holiday or are away for some reason. They can't do anything major with your account, can't launch any attacks but they can keep it ticking over. This is the kind of thing professional developers do to play their part in avoiding issues like the above. Unfortunately we are with Plarium..... 

Also how does this thread stand? It's OK to slander KT before any definite proof is collected. 

I can't believe the moderation here. Heavy handed to the extreme most of the time and then non existent when it really matters. I have a league mate who posted that many bots are run by criminal organisations - that got deleted because a mod thought it "impinged on the good name or criminal organisations" (yes this really did happen) and yet 2 players in our own game can be freely attacked without solid proof?

So it's OK to post this because "Bobthedog" said it was OK to share their messages despite the fact that it's 2 KT members who are the subject of the discussion and clearly it is them that should have been approached for permission. 

This forum, this game, Plarium all utter jokes. 

Having said that, I enjoyed the intrigue of the post and personally I like reading stuff like this about the major incidence in the game (I'd rather these kinds of things didn't get deleted). But in terms of consistency of approach from Plarium/mods - 0 out of 10.

Couldnt agree more

im nearly 100% sure thats its not a 100% revive 

when it comes to huge losses due to mistakes or faults you get some units back as a nice gesture 

it happened to me once where i thought there was an issue that cost me some Wyverns ( even though the support agent confirmed there were no issues  )

exxxe said:

crayzys said:

Plarium if you got proof positive boot the MFer right now

well the best he can do is send those details and IP address to support 

however she did share her log in info ( so im not sure )

and lets be honest neither Anarchy, destiny or KT wants plarium looking into their accounts ( ALT'S anyone ?? )

Exxxe the mind-reader returns to "moderate" the conversation by making grand accusations as to how other people think and what they want.  How wonderful!

Glad we have such a talented and skilled moderator working hard keeping this thread on point.

djmoody said:

Sir Crusher said:

Since then, Plarium has graciously resurrected Bobthedog's legendary troops.

Sorry - but the "reward" for breaking the game rules and account sharing is to have troops revived?

Presumably this is a VIP advantage for spending obscene amounts of money, when the correct response would be to ban the account for quite serious rule breaking (which then has led to waste of Plarium support time, that could have been directed to a player with a real issue). As usual money talks. 

I have zero sympathy for losses due to account sharing. Quite simply, don't give out your account details. If you do and it goes wrong you get what you deserve. 

On a side note I played C&C Tiberium alliances for the last year. They have an in-game substitution feature which allows you to name a substitute. You substitute can log into your game and keep your account ticking if you go on holiday or are away for some reason. They can't do anything major with your account, can't launch any attacks but they can keep it ticking over. This is the kind of thing professional developers do to play their part in avoiding issues like the above. Unfortunately we are with Plarium..... 

Also how does this thread stand? It's OK to slander KT before any definite proof is collected. 

I can't believe the moderation here. Heavy handed to the extreme most of the time and then non existent when it really matters. I have a league mate who posted that many bots are run by criminal organisations - that got deleted because a mod thought it "impinged on the good name or criminal organisations" (yes this really did happen) and yet 2 players in our own game can be freely attacked without solid proof?

So it's OK to post this because "Bobthedog" said it was OK to share their messages despite the fact that it's 2 KT members who are the subject of the discussion and clearly it is them that should have been approached for permission. 

This forum, this game, Plarium all utter jokes. 

Having said that, I enjoyed the intrigue of the post and personally I like reading stuff like this about the major incidence in the game (I'd rather these kinds of things didn't get deleted). But in terms of consistency of approach from Plarium/mods - 0 out of 10.

DJ's post is excellent.

I "really" like the part where the person who broke the rules gets their troops back, and all of Destiny (who didn't break the rules) looses troops due to someone else's violation.

Plarium rewards those who break the rules and penalize those who follow them.

Brilliant!

test said:

exxxe said:

crayzys said:

Plarium if you got proof positive boot the MFer right now

well the best he can do is send those details and IP address to support 

however she did share her log in info ( so im not sure )

Exxxe the mind-reader returns to "moderate" the conversation by making grand accusations as to how other people think and what they want.  How wonderful!

Glad we have such a talented and skilled moderator working hard keeping this thread on point.

Exxxe, you should be able to make a good living working at the circus with those skills of yours.

lol it was a joke dude chill ( sarcasm or whatever )

i will add a LOL to it if it helps :))

anyway what you mean i came back im always here ( just sometimes im lazy or too bored )

now back to topic i swear im having a nice day so dont start ( Edited i will delete the post just dont start )

exxxe said:

test said:

exxxe said:

crayzys said:

Plarium if you got proof positive boot the MFer right now

well the best he can do is send those details and IP address to support 

however she did share her log in info ( so im not sure )

Exxxe the mind-reader returns to "moderate" the conversation by making grand accusations as to how other people think and what they want.  How wonderful!

Glad we have such a talented and skilled moderator working hard keeping this thread on point.

Exxxe, you should be able to make a good living working at the circus with those skills of yours.

lol it was a joke dude chill 

i will add a LOL to it if it helps :))

I bet your the life of the party with those joke telling skills.   Adding the phrase "let's be honest" is a great way to start a punchline.

wow you are fast did you see the edit 

damn i will remove it if it suits you 

well im not sure if that is offensive or not so i will just say this 

no i dont work in the circus instead i deal with guys like you :)) 

though i love circus who would not from elephants to girls in tights come on 

exxxe said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

djmoody said:

Sir Crusher said:

Since then, Plarium has graciously resurrected Bobthedog's legendary troops.

Sorry - but the "reward" for breaking the game rules and account sharing is to have troops revived?

Presumably this is a VIP advantage for spending obscene amounts of money, when the correct response would be to ban the account for quite serious rule breaking (which then has led to waste of Plarium support time, that could have been directed to a player with a real issue). As usual money talks. 

I have zero sympathy for losses due to account sharing. Quite simply, don't give out your account details. If you do and it goes wrong you get what you deserve. 

On a side note I played C&C Tiberium alliances for the last year. They have an in-game substitution feature which allows you to name a substitute. You substitute can log into your game and keep your account ticking if you go on holiday or are away for some reason. They can't do anything major with your account, can't launch any attacks but they can keep it ticking over. This is the kind of thing professional developers do to play their part in avoiding issues like the above. Unfortunately we are with Plarium..... 

Also how does this thread stand? It's OK to slander KT before any definite proof is collected. 

I can't believe the moderation here. Heavy handed to the extreme most of the time and then non existent when it really matters. I have a league mate who posted that many bots are run by criminal organisations - that got deleted because a mod thought it "impinged on the good name or criminal organisations" (yes this really did happen) and yet 2 players in our own game can be freely attacked without solid proof?

So it's OK to post this because "Bobthedog" said it was OK to share their messages despite the fact that it's 2 KT members who are the subject of the discussion and clearly it is them that should have been approached for permission. 

This forum, this game, Plarium all utter jokes. 

Having said that, I enjoyed the intrigue of the post and personally I like reading stuff like this about the major incidence in the game (I'd rather these kinds of things didn't get deleted). But in terms of consistency of approach from Plarium/mods - 0 out of 10.

Couldnt agree more

im nearly 100% sure thats its not a 100% revive 

when it comes to huge losses due to mistakes or faults you get some units back as a nice gesture 

it happened to me once where i thought there was an issue that cost me some Wyverns ( even though the support agent confirmed there were no issues  )                                                                                and i totally agree with you but its support decision :))

No, it wasn't a 100% revive and it was definitely a nice gesture on Plarium's part, but I was just going through the forums rules and I noticed that there's a rule against players using the forums to incite people not to play the games or buy sapphs... but this one I really liked.. http://prntscr.com/eriswc

Just sayin...

fine i removed it so sorry if anyone felt bad / sad / mad about it 

yeah test maybe the " lets be honest " is not best choice or maybe it was because well sarcasm

either way English is not my Native language so pass this one would ya  

on another note @ Crusher 

good some troops were revived now would you give me your log in info maybe ?? xD

you know the lesson is never truly learned unless experienced first hand :))

exxxe said:

fine i removed it so sorry if anyone felt bad / sad / mad about it 

yeah test maybe the " lets be honest " is not best choice or maybe it was because well sarcasm

either way English is not my Native language so pass this one would ya  

on another note @ Crusher 

good some troops were revived now would you give me your log in info maybe ?? xD

you know the lesson is never truly learned unless experienced first hand :))

Exxxe the great censorer (instead of moderator) now opts to delete converstations that he starts that in retrospect after dialogue between the parties mentioned, make him look bad, and keeps the rest up there...I'll note once again, brilliant "moderation".

Instead of helping the forums, he makes up lies, destroys conversations, and later goes back and deletes them so no one knows what he did...when will the horrible "moderation" end?

ok test first stop the borderline offense at least treat the person the way he is treating you

second i was on topic with one sentence off topic till you came

third even after i apologized and removed what made you upset you still post unhappy about it and not happy it was removed WTF 

fourth lets check what made you upset shall we :-

its me sarcasticly joking about ALT's being common in the game and in leagues ( including in destiny )

so you are upset because i said destiny has alts ( which was again just sarcasm )

well cut off the Edited there are lots of alts and THERE are ones in destiny so stop with im an angel Edited ( if a joke switched you on what me being serious would do now ?? )

... so if you are unhappy i was off topic well it was one Fing sentence as a Fing joke 

if you are unhappy i said destiny has alts then well i swear i know some kids less sensitive than you ( ohh and i was not even serious )

((( this ends now im done no back and forth i will delete any responses of you arguing after this stage )))

BTW i put it back up because there is nothing Fing wrong with it and because you asked  

and answer my PM's please http://prntscr.com/erk52e

The accusations made involve KT and its members.
No real proof was given, so at this point we just have the rantings of one player to go by and thats simply not enough.
If a rule was broken it should be send to support and not be posted on forums without airtight proof.


Since the replies are very off topic atm and the post only slanders a full league I suggest and ask this post to be closed and deleted.

DV
Captain of KT

Marcel Stokvis said:

The accusations made involve KT and its members.
No real proof was given, so at this point we just have the rantings of one player to go by and thats simply not enough.
If a rule was broken it should be send to support and not be posted on forums without airtight proof.


Since the replies are very off topic atm and the post only slanders a full league I suggest and ask this post to be closed and deleted.

DV
Captain of KT

hey :))

 no the post will not be deleted leagues have the right to attack and accuse each other and have fun this is why this thread is for 

that one player is a marshal so technically its all of Anarchy slandering KT 

( even if there is no proof LOL this is not a court of law its a game )

not happy with the slandering so what go at him in game and fight either way post will not be removed 

and sorry about the off topic posts :((

Sir Crusher said:

crayzys said:

another thing of note* Bobthedog (TheredQueen) left KT over DE usage, and left without saying goodbye or trying to make changes with KT Captains and Marshall. She didnt go making a big stink, just left. The point Im making is there was no war or feud in her departure. 

So is this true?  Or what Dutch just said?  Because what this indicates was that there was no ill will on Bobthedog's part.

You really want me to explain to you what woman are like?
Big man there is a huge difference between leaving with a war and feud and a woman leaving in a tantrum :)

Who knows you might find out someday .... if you are lucky enough :D
But then ... knowing you, you might not

Marcel Stokvis said:

Sir Crusher said:

A couple weeks ago was Beacon Raiders.  Before that was Fist of Honor.  And yes, KT a few months ago, wiped us because of the Beacon Massacre.  I can see now that your facts are skewed, but that's ok.  We took our lumps and we learned.

BUT...

Your determination to have my original post deleted, coupled with your leaguewide for your league NOT to discuss this in your leaguechat  nor reply to this thread (BBQ Chips didn't listen to you) says a lot more than what you're actually saying.

My investigation is ongoing btw.

My wish for the original post to be deleted --> slander
My request it not be discussed in leaguechat --> dont want to recieve screens of our chat from you again
My request to not discuss it --> stopped as soon as we found out plarium allows lies and slander to be posted

I said it before and I will repeat it as much as needs be ... send you proof to plarium and let them ban ANY involved (this includes bob ofc)


/edit (my own edit EXXXE)
pls ask bob to be man uhm woman enough to play from her main account and not throw fireballs from her alt theredqueen

No, you're hiding something.  It'll all come out in the wash.  It always does.

Sir Crusher said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

Sir Crusher said:

A couple weeks ago was Beacon Raiders.  Before that was Fist of Honor.  And yes, KT a few months ago, wiped us because of the Beacon Massacre.  I can see now that your facts are skewed, but that's ok.  We took our lumps and we learned.

BUT...

Your determination to have my original post deleted, coupled with your leaguewide for your league NOT to discuss this in your leaguechat  nor reply to this thread (BBQ Chips didn't listen to you) says a lot more than what you're actually saying.

My investigation is ongoing btw.

My wish for the original post to be deleted --> slander
My request it not be discussed in leaguechat --> dont want to recieve screens of our chat from you again
My request to not discuss it --> stopped as soon as we found out plarium allows lies and slander to be posted

I said it before and I will repeat it as much as needs be ... send you proof to plarium and let them ban ANY involved (this includes bob ofc)


/edit (my own edit EXXXE)
pls ask bob to be man uhm woman enough to play from her main account and not throw fireballs from her alt theredqueen

No, you're hiding something.  It'll all come out in the wash.  It always does.

When it does let me know, I am still missing 3 socks

So summary.

Someone who had been given access to Bobthedog's account previously, used the account for malicious purposes against the original account owner (and indirectly against Destiny).

There is not really a way to find the culprit unless they reveal themself or themselves.

It would be interesting to see what Plarium does for Destiny though as they lost troops as well. Not fair in my eyes to give one side stuff back and nothing to the other.

crayzys said:

So for the update, I had hope that Crusher would have cleared this up since he started some fake news quests to bash KT without facts. So I will do it for him, Stewart and Dave went into Anarchy TS last night at reset with nezzo and others to prove his IP address didn't match and to discuss it. It was all recorded by both sides. No crusher didn't attend or did bobthedog (TheredQueen - alt)

well that really proves nothing since all along people have been saying how easy it is to change their IP address to a bogus one

Jezebel said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

** On topic**

For those that have not been able to grasp the whole picture.

Login info shared. With a very limited number of players of ONE league.

Info not changed when change of leagues. 

Shared info used with an ulterior motive from what was granted.

Details shared with Plarium.

Plarium, with their "investigation", deemed something enough in error to resupply 'some' troops at a minimum.

So the issue has only been partially resolved,as no 'guilty' party can be identified beyond doubt.

Reasonable suspicion has been presented, without Identifying  the IP (against plarium rules).

To me it is still plarium's spot to take further action, but they seem unwilling or unable to do so, hense lies the issue remaining.

At no point was this started to flame any league in whole,,, seems that many have guilty consciences though....

**off topic**

The Anarchy / KT feud has been ongoing since before Anarchy, a large part of what Anarchy was initially based on.

There have been many different stages / goals in this ongoing feud, none having resorted to the actions above.

It was not an act of a league (with or without approval of others), it was the act of one player, collusion has not been accused, confirmed or denied by either/any league members. 

Beacons,, keep bragging,,, not really part of the topic,, just keep thumping your conjoined chests and pat each other on the back. Beacons are becoming yet another side quest of the game. 

As to any another of the issues that have risen up,, start your own thread,, mail ,,, chat whatever.. 

Mail me with it,,, i know how to delete mails without reading

** on topic ** will Destiny have troops restored since they have deemed this to be a hack job and bobthedog had troops restored?  Destiny was also a victim to this whole fiasco

answer to that 

CM's don't know and they cant debate support decisions 

OK long thread, Onother KT post, Destiny post or Anarchy post, Pure lies hiden in a facade of pure propaganda. 

Here is what I Found out. 

Crusher Allegation 

What we found out

The said victim, hence mentioned in these thread and the previous threat has, been, as mentioned here many times, BETRAYED by a trusted friend in KT. The accused has as so far not made in statement in relation to these, because well as everyone knows, is a KT Grand Marshal , and  or a very unlikely KT captain:tactical warfare. 

We have proof so far that the said Victim has given his credentials to the above mentioned parties, Which the above mentioned party has as of yet admitted in KT chat, of which I have proof. Members of KT has also come forward and has  so far admitted that yes, for the period started from early October said Victims has given his credentials to said dual party. 

What we need to know is of which of the two has carried the alleged crime. 

We do know for a fact that one said victim reside in a place where the crime has taken place, Which is Australia. 

We do acknowledge that these is true, 

1. Victim did give his credentials out

2. Victims has given his credentials out to not 2 party but one party of the two mentioned, which to protect the integrity of the KT we will not say who

3. Victims had a fallout, a huge fighting's that carried on  until she take a decision to join Anarchy, The said fight carried on for few days when the said victim was in Anarchy which at these state it nearly became a  KTvsAnarchy things.

4. At these state the said crime took place 

DV said,

One thing

You didn't do any Investigation, there is a clear difference between PM a couple of captains, censoring and banning people from chatting about the matter, while you type a not so league wide message to one party that the KT is clear of the said crime.  

Second thing, your allegations that the whole thing is espionage fabricada communique fabricated by Lord Crusher to tarnish the ''good name of KT'', is pure prestige of pure BS. 

If you did do the said Investigation, you would have realized than more than 10 accounts in KT have been log-in by the said IP that committed the said crime. You would have also realized that the linguistic character of the said 10 people are the same, and that they are never in chat at the same time, to cut everything short, they are BIG BAD ALTS or AKF managed by one person. 

But, how can you know , your investigation was  hasty, its lasted no more that 5 min, and it was based on nothing but fabricated lies. 

I get you have been appointed KT captain, and your duties as of now include and are not limited to harassing our Good Women in game, and sending provocating messages on the forum that tarnishes the good name of KT, which has been worked for.

Your whole trollings  only show your timorous tendencies to harass people in the forum, and barring them for saying  KT.

To the criminal

We know the truth, Come out and admit you are at fault.

Trentos said:

For the first time, I'm actually feeling embarrassed that I play this game. How such a low act can be justified. I don't expect Plarium to follow up on this matter given that credentials were shared etc etc. But very surprised at how many other fellow gamers will jump on this band wagon to cover up what occurred. Praying these players don't show this complete lack of moral fibre in real life?

Then you have others like Dutch Viking (a league captain) that take it even further, and knowing the issue is likely dead and burried, takes the opportunity to attack female gamers on multiple occasions. What was a serious thread started by Sir Crusher has declined into Test-like trash.

I feel so lucky to belong to a league where this kind of BS wouldn't float. 

I for once agree with you with the exception of the "test-like" comment - but everyone knows I still support Destiny and test

DV's comments regarding "females" didn't really offend me my response was made in jest as I believe his were as well

The original reason for this post was lost in the bs somewhere though and I apologize as I believe I had a part in that also