Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

knigochey said:

That is disgusting. Lawlessness aka arbitrary rule is mischaracterized as "classified information". Now we hear about "Nobody knows the exact information about PPs"

No matter how Plarium mistreats you - you are supposed to shut up, because they never gave you any honest info. Moreover, they might change the rules every hour - and believe here is no way to indicate it. Not going to work this way. 

We don't change any rules, be sure :)

I am sure THEY do, not you. 

I am sure THEY do, not you. 

BUT even if that was true, hiding rules is a kind of behavior that has nothing to do with LEGITIMATE business. 

Mullenz said:

I am sure THEY do, not you. 

BUT even if that was true, hiding rules is a kind of behavior that has nothing to do with LEGITIMATE business. 

Each game has some secrets, right? There are no games that post all formulas, balance calculations, describe how things work. That wouldn't be interesting to play such a game after all :)

Totally wrong. Nobody is asking about "formulas", but elementary honesty is a must. Even card gambling has clear rules, which doesn't make them less interesting. Only cheaters avoid clear rules. 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

You send Units to PPs, collect points for Units that died there and you receive a reward based on your losses, PP level and the number of accumulated points.

Ah.. finally something to reinforce my believe that PPs are NOT based solely on resources!!

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

knigochey said:

Totally wrong. Nobody is asking about "formulas", but elementary honesty is a must. Even card gambling has clear rules, which doesn't make them less interesting. Only cheaters avoid clear rules. 

PPs also have clear rules. You send Units to PPs, collect points for Units that died there and you receive a reward based on your losses, PP level and the number of accumulated points. It has always worked like that. If you don't accept these rules, you can find many other in-game activities besides PPs ;)

"you receive a reward based on your losses, PP level and the number of accumulated points" ------ and that is what you call "clear rules"? Where is the clarity? 

And after plarium stole at least 50% of my "investment" (according to one Guru from the Russian forum - 2/3) -  I do not have too much left to "find many other in-game activities besides PPs" . 

"you receive a reward based on your losses, PP level and the number of accumulated points" ------ and that is what you call "clear rules"? Where is the clarity? 

And after plarium stole at least 50% of my "investment" (according to one Guru from the Russian forum - 2/3) -  I do not have too much left to "find many other in-game activities besides PPs" . 

Like da man said in Jeremiah 5:21

alyona,    I think  it would  be best  said   that pp's do not have a loan.     if it was a loan  you would get the big reward on first position played. so your payouts is your return investment.

so simplify the response.     it is not  about getting anything it is about investing troops.  the payouts come  after you knock down a certain amount of levels, nothing  else.  best to go in order.1-170.   if you have to wait a few days to continue where you left off do so, if not   your rewards  will diminish. 

receiving large payouts varies depending on what is going on in game.   at the end of long tournaments the payouts come  at the max level of positions you need to knock down    in off times  it is not so hard.     but everyone  talks about the  myths  or superstitions of pp rewards.   the rewards are fixed on a certain amount of power to be given back.    you will not get anything higher  than that. so the whole point of this part of the game is efficiency  in troop usage  so you can stretch out  what number of units you have into defeating a certain number of positions.   if  you attack the wrong position with wrong troops   then you  will not have enough to finish off the number of positons needed for reward  this = loss of army.  certain troops do add to the resources,   but it does not matter.   if you  play exactly right  every position   or play completely  wrong  your reward will be the same.   if you use the wrong troops   they are lost and do not count towards reward.  I know  for sure  about this  I have killed over a million cav playing pp   and  never get anything higher than 20-30 mil def,   and 25-50 mil off.    so sometimes   when you lose your army the reason is you sent wrong troops to wrong position.   do not listen to them about  your investment is still there.   it is gone forever.     but in a couple of weeks  of playing  you can  get enough troops to play  until you get a nice payout.  pp  will keep you going.    you have to use a calculator.   it is about precision.  pvp  is attacking with X10 force in power;   pp  is attacking to the least amount of force possible. the game is also judging you on what you are doing.    even when you play with full resources    you still get resources in your payouts,  also  pay attention    on large payouts  about every 4-6  of them  you will get 200k resources with full split pays.   do not lose these resources    they are your guide to let you know about when you next payout is due.    every mil in resources given  should have a large payout.  your reward  is not lost because you have not earned it yet.    your troops are lost.    think about this,  the more  you play  the  more interest you have to pay back.    I get  destroyed now when I play  since I have played so much.    my bank  seems  to  be closer to 25% interest   for next payout most days.    they change up everything  about them   and it is clear to see  once you have played them enough times.     but the basic strategy is always the same.    the only thing I will say about this  is  some days  it takes  way less units to knockdown positions    and some days  it  is  way over  the  normal amount of force.