sarathps04 said:

Hello,

I want to know the resource values of the following units.

1. Roman units

2. Imperial units

Is there any resource value for them? Is it good to play Persian positions with roman and imperial units?

I need answer, as some of my friends are using imperial units to play Persian positions and i fear they have no resource value like heroes. 

So please answer.

With regards

Sarath

Hello Archon,

1. My PP experts have shared this info with me. From what they 've told me the Roman units cost twice their value. For example a Legate costs 1950 Denarii so their PP value is twice that 3800 resources per Legate (which makes sense if you think that 1000 Denarii are worth 1000 bronze and 1000 timber). Though they are the strongest defensive units my experts don't really suggest them for PP cause you will need many of them to fill the bank.

2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

I would advise you not to use Roman units on PP. Imperial units are perfect though!

Hope I have helped you! 

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

Hello,

I want to know the resource values of the following units.

1. Roman units

2. Imperial units

Is there any resource value for them? Is it good to play Persian positions with roman and imperial units?

I need answer, as some of my friends are using imperial units to play Persian positions and i fear they have no resource value like heroes. 

So please answer.

With regards

Sarath

Hello Archon,

1. My PP experts have shared this info with me. From what they 've told me the Roman units cost twice their value. For example a Legate costs 1950 Denarii so their PP value is twice that 3800 resources per Legate (which makes sense if you think that 1000 Denarii are worth 1000 bronze and 1000 timber). Though they are the strongest defensive units my experts don't really suggest them for PP cause you will need many of them to fill the bank.

2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

I would advise you not to use Roman units on PP. Imperial units are perfect though!

Hope I have helped you! 

Thank you.

Thank you.

I need one more clarification. Does an imperial unit and regular unit has same resource value? For example one mounted peltast and imperial mounted peltast? Whether they have same resource value or not?

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

Thank you.

I need one more clarification. Does an imperial unit and regular unit has same resource value? For example one mounted peltast and imperial mounted peltast? Whether they have same resource value or not?

From what I've been told yes one MP and one Imperial MP have the same resource value.

Ok, Thank you.

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

Hello,

I want to know the resource values of the following units.

1. Roman units

2. Imperial units

Is there any resource value for them? Is it good to play Persian positions with roman and imperial units?

I need answer, as some of my friends are using imperial units to play Persian positions and i fear they have no resource value like heroes. 

So please answer.

With regards

Sarath

Hello Archon,

1. My PP experts have shared this info with me. From what they 've told me the Roman units cost twice their value. For example a Legate costs 1950 Denarii so their PP value is twice that 3800 resources per Legate (which makes sense if you think that 1000 Denarii are worth 1000 bronze and 1000 timber). Though they are the strongest defensive units my experts don't really suggest them for PP cause you will need many of them to fill the bank.

2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

I would advise you not to use Roman units on PP. Imperial units are perfect though!

Hope I have helped you! 

xena: 2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

unnamed sources?

Alyona:12 January, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations.

my conversation with Alyona,about imperial troops value,you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

Tonaya:here is one tip based on Alyona advices,that all troops have CERTAIN value,why dont you now send those 352 imperial promachos on pp tournament,to see will you get big payout or not >:)

xena: I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

conversation you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

1.pp system work simply: all troops value count how much they cost to build them with resources

2.imperial troops cant  build with resources

3.imperial troops dont exists in persian calculator

4.i dont talk what some unnamed source told me,i talk from my experience:i lost all imperial troops from missions,imperial agema,imperial promachos,.......on persian positions,i use persian calculator,i count every single troop i send on pp,i wasted all those imperial troops on pp,i didnt got big payout(i did burn last payout+20%),until i didnt burn regular troops,then i got big payout

5.Tonaya claim:imperial troops dont have same value like regular troops!!!

6.i think their value is ZERO,zero resources to build them,zero value

to point one more time,who give you advices about persian position:

xena:  I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

Alyona:I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

2.moderators dont know pp system,because it is plariums top secret 

3.here is fb link where you can download persian calculator:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/spartatroopcalculator/

4.when you downloaded it,read info there,and you will found out a lot things about how to play pp

xena: I also don't play positions

xena:Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions

XENA,IF YOU DONT PLAY PERSIAN POSITIONS,DONT GIVE ANY ADVICE TO ANYONE!

ps i am not back on forum,i just cant stand to see what you are doing,giving advices to other players about something you dont know,dont play,and some unnamed sources told you,keep it for your self,dont teach wrong other players,please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-lfowevqA

Tonaya .I.

personally  I do not use Champs, Romans, or Imperial units on PP's, i don´t think they have any worth, unless someone can prove it to me that i´m wrong...

Tonaya said:

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

Hello,

I want to know the resource values of the following units.

1. Roman units

2. Imperial units

Is there any resource value for them? Is it good to play Persian positions with roman and imperial units?

I need answer, as some of my friends are using imperial units to play Persian positions and i fear they have no resource value like heroes. 

So please answer.

With regards

Sarath

Hello Archon,

1. My PP experts have shared this info with me. From what they 've told me the Roman units cost twice their value. For example a Legate costs 1950 Denarii so their PP value is twice that 3800 resources per Legate (which makes sense if you think that 1000 Denarii are worth 1000 bronze and 1000 timber). Though they are the strongest defensive units my experts don't really suggest them for PP cause you will need many of them to fill the bank.

2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

I would advise you not to use Roman units on PP. Imperial units are perfect though!

Hope I have helped you! 

xena: 2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

unnamed sources?

Alyona:12 January, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations.

my conversation with Alyona,about imperial troops value,you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

Tonaya:here is one tip based on Alyona advices,that all troops have CERTAIN value,why dont you now send those 352 imperial promachos on pp tournament,to see will you get big payout or not >:)

xena: I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

conversation you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

1.pp system work simply: all troops value count how much they cost to build them with resources

2.imperial troops cant  build with resources

3.imperial troops dont exists in persian calculator

4.i dont talk what some unnamed source told me,i talk from my experience:i lost all imperial troops from missions,imperial agema,imperial promachos,.......on persian positions,i use persian calculator,i count every single troop i send on pp,i wasted all those imperial troops on pp,i didnt got big payout(i did burn last payout+20%),until i didnt burn regular troops,then i got big payout

5.Tonaya claim:imperial troops dont have same value like regular troops!!!

6.i think their value is ZERO,zero resources to build them,zero value

to point one more time,who give you advices about persian position:

xena:  I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

Alyona:I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

1.moderators are only regular player who receive 3k drachmas per week,to answer on your questions on forum

2.moderators dont know pp system,because it is plariums top secret 

3.here is fb link where you can download persian calculator:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/spartatroopcalculator/

4.when you downloaded it,read info there,and you will found out a lot things about how to play pp

xena: I also don't play positions

xena:Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions

XENA,IF YOU DONT PLAY PERSIAN POSITIONS,DONT GIVE ANY ADVICE TO ANYONE!

ps i am not back on forum,i just cant stand to see what you are doing,giving advices to other players about something you dont know,dont play,and some unnamed sources told you,keep it for your self,dont teach wrong other players,please.

dont try to talk with me,i dont want to talk with any moderator any more.just ask yourself is that 3k drachmas per week,worth to lie in public,you and other moderators can enjoy with this song,it is my msg for all of you,HOW LOW CAN YOU GO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-lfowevqA

Tonaya .I.

First of all, just because I don't play positions now doesn't mean I didn't use to play before. And I actually got pretty good payments back when I played. Therefore I will share the things I know with other players and that means I will continue to give advice whether you like it or not.

Second of all, my sources are PP experts. They have studied so many reports and have played Xerxes for so many hours that I trust them with my life about Xerxes. So if they tell me that Imperial troops have the same value as regural troops then I will believe them till I die. 

Thirdly, sorry to be the one to say this to you but obviously you don't know how to play positions. I see eveyday amazing rewards from people who actually know how to play position so don't tell me that you can't get a great payout on Xerxes. You just need to know how the system works and you obviously don't know. I remember though that the last payout you got (the Promachos) was pretty good! So don't tell me you haven't got a pretty good payout yourself cause the troops you got from the level you got them was an amazing payout. Was it luck Tonaya?
You are saying you used regural units to get a big payout. Something tells me you wouldn't fill the bank without those Imperial troops.

In addition, don't use caps again since it's a violation of the Forum rules. Checking them again would be really useful for all of us.
Here are the rules: https://plarium.com/forum/en/rules/
To be more specific check this here: http://prntscr.com/egdatv

Last but not least, I love that song it's one of my favourites actually but you should consider that the phrase he uses is bidirectional. 

P.S: I'm pretty sure I know more about positions than you do! 

Love and Respect

Xena

Xena said:

sarathps04 said:

Hello,

I want to know the resource values of the following units.

1. Roman units

2. Imperial units

Is there any resource value for them? Is it good to play Persian positions with roman and imperial units?

I need answer, as some of my friends are using imperial units to play Persian positions and i fear they have no resource value like heroes. 

So please answer.

With regards

Sarath

Hello Archon,

1. My PP experts have shared this info with me. From what they 've told me the Roman units cost twice their value. For example a Legate costs 1950 Denarii so their PP value is twice that 3800 resources per Legate (which makes sense if you think that 1000 Denarii are worth 1000 bronze and 1000 timber). Though they are the strongest defensive units my experts don't really suggest them for PP cause you will need many of them to fill the bank.

2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

I would advise you not to use Roman units on PP. Imperial units are perfect though!

Hope I have helped you! 

xena: 2. Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions.

unnamed sources?

Alyona:12 January, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations.

my conversation with Alyona,about imperial troops value,you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

Tonaya:here is one tip based on Alyona advices,that all troops have CERTAIN value,why dont you now send those 352 imperial promachos on pp tournament,to see will you get big payout or not >:)

xena: I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

conversation you can find here:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

1.pp system work simply: all troops value count how much they cost to build them with resources

2.imperial troops cant  build with resources

3.imperial troops dont exists in persian calculator

4.i dont talk what some unnamed source told me,i talk from my experience:i lost all imperial troops from missions,imperial agema,imperial promachos,.......on persian positions,i use persian calculator,i count every single troop i send on pp,i wasted all those imperial troops on pp,i didnt got big payout(i did burn last payout+20%),until i didnt burn regular troops,then i got big payout

5.Tonaya claim:imperial troops dont have same value like regular troops!!!

6.i think their value is ZERO,zero resources to build them,zero value

to point one more time,who give you advices about persian position:

xena:  I also don't play positions so I won't send them to Xerxes! 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-discussion/34221_tourney-reward-are-garbage/3

Alyona:I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations

https://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/news-and-announcements/21044_imperial-class-units--now-available-as-part-of-special-offers-and-campaign-missions-

1.moderators are only regular player who receive 3k drachmas per week,to answer on your questions on forum

2.moderators dont know pp system,because it is plariums top secret 

3.here is fb link where you can download persian calculator:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/spartatroopcalculator/

4.when you downloaded it,read info there,and you will found out a lot things about how to play pp

xena: I also don't play positions

xena:Imperial Units cost the same as the regular ones. As I have mentioned before according to my sources. So no worries if your friends use them to play positions

XENA,IF YOU DONT PLAY PERSIAN POSITIONS,DONT GIVE ANY ADVICE TO ANYONE!

ps i am not back on forum,i just cant stand to see what you are doing,giving advices to other players about something you dont know,dont play,and some unnamed sources told you,keep it for your self,dont teach wrong other players,please.

dont try to talk with me,i dont want to talk with any moderator any more.just ask yourself is that 3k drachmas per week,worth to lie in public,you and other moderators can enjoy with this song,it is my msg for all of you,HOW LOW CAN YOU GO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-lfowevqA

Tonaya .I.

Hero,Champions,Imperial troops have no value on persians,it is wasting to send them to xerxes.

Roman troops are too cheap for persians,they are not good too,best is troops made with resources,more they cost,more go in bank

FairyFlake

Exodus said:

Hi all

Imperial troops have no value on persian position.

It is from my experiences with persian positions.

Who said they have same value,he is not telling the truth.

Regards Exodus

You can't prove that I'm not telling the truth since you can't actually prove that Imperial Units don't have value in PP.

few months ago,i did lost all troops,as i read tonaya's posts,i founded him on map,explained him my situation with pp,he sended me his private email,sended me persian calculator,explained to me how system works,he said not to use imperial troops and champions because they dont have value on pp,we talk by msgs and emails around 10 days,and i did recover my troops,thanks to tonaya.so i think he know a lot about pp,and he helped me,just because he wanted,we are not in same coalition,so he didnt have any reason to waste his time explaining to me anything

Exodus said:

i am not person who like to argue.Just to answer to you

Persian system is based on resource value cost of all troops.

Imperial troops are not build with resources.

In any persian calculator there are no imperial troops and no champion troops,in info in persian calculator latest version which i use,you can read all about persian positions and how to play.

Imperial troops kill persians,but they dont fill the bank.

I have read your posts on this thread,here is what i dont understand: you claim that imperial troops have same value like troops build with resources.

In tonaya post there is a link where community manager say he never said that imperial troops have same value like troops build with resources.

Here:

Alyona:12 January, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

"I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations."

Community Manager dont know their value,but you know? Are you game developer or only a player?

In other post you said you dont play persian positions long time,because you lost 90% of your troops.

You claim they have same value because some one told you they have.

You give advice to SARATHPS04 to use imperial troops on persian position,and when tonaya ask from you to use imperial promacho on persian position,you said you wont use them.

As i read posts on forum,tonaya posts  help'd me to learn how to play persian positions and to get back my troops i lost on persian position,and you said you lost 90% of your troops,it is easy to conclude that you are the one who dont know how to play persian position.

This is not about do you believe what some one else said to you,i dont agree with you about imperial troops value,i explain'd why.

That is why i said that you are not telling the truth.

I think you deceive other players,maybe unwittingly.

I ask why are you  moderator? 

You lost 90% of your troops and you advice others how to play persian positions?

Regards Exodus

Since you quoted what Alyona said I will do it once more.

Alyona:12 January, 2017, 10:10 AM UTC

"I never said they have the same value, Tonaya. Actually, I have no idea. But I know for sure (from devs) that all Units have a certain value on PPs (I mean above zero of course), but as I said before, their value may differ from your expectations."

She doesn't agree or disagree with that quote. She says she never claimed they have the same value. That doesn't mean that they don't have the same value. She just can't either confirm or decline if they have the same value or not. You believe they don't fill the bank and therefore they don't have any value but as I said it's your right as it is mine to believe that they do fill the bank and therefore they have the same value as regular troops. Alyona also says that all units value is above zero so there goes the argument of all those that claim they have zero value because they are not built with resources. Community Manager is not at liberty to share such info as far as I know.

Your conclusion that I don't know how to play Xerxes is really mistaken. In another post I said that I lost 90% of my troops to help my coalition get the achievements needed so that we could get the unique logo. I didn't lose my troops on Xerxes as you claim and the only reason I don't play positions is that I don't have the troops needed to fill the bank so that I can get a great payout again (since as I mentioned above I have lost my army to help my coalition). I said I won't use my Imperial Promachos there cause I prefer to kill enemies it's much more enjoyable than playing Xerxes. But that's up to anyone to decide. 

You have your opinion, I have mine. I won't bother to try and change yours. Keep believing what you believe. I'm telling the truth as it has been presented to me from people I trust and have seen them getting great payouts on PP. They have showed me that Imperial Units fill the bank so I will keep saying that they do. You can just ignore my posts if you don't like my answers. 

I don't deceive anyone here. I'm trying to help others and solve their questions. That's why I am a moderator.

Once again I didn't lose my troops on Xerxes so I will continue giving advice to people on how to play positions. Even if you and some others mind that.

Good game to you

Regards

Xena

Hi, Tonaya! Thanks for sharing your tips with players :)

However, please remember that the spreadsheet you rely on is not official. It was created by players, not Plarium. And most likely the info given there contains some wrong points. Like the point that certain troops have no value on PPs. All troops do. And this is the official information you can rely on.

But please remember that the Unit value may differ from your expectations.

From personal experience I believe that imperial units have no resource value, if they have above zero that's possible, but I believe nowhere near their counterparts which u can build.

I don't send any imperials to PP save them for either pvp or pan defence

Hello Tonaya.

Very good payouts!!

Question -you talked about 'different banks'.  For example, PP levels 51-75 level = one  bank.    So, do PP levels 1-50 = one bank? Or is it divided? For example, levels 1-25  and levels 26-50.  

i think this is the first time you said anything positively about Tonaya

Dorieas said:

I ld like to say a big thank you to Tonaya who help me after my post in Forum to recover some of my loosen army on Xerxes... 

People like Tonaya they are interesting about the game and for me he deserve's to be promote as a Moderator... At least what ever he says on Forum about PP exists...

I m one from the many he helps on the game. Please any one want help about PP, txt him and he is always available to help...

when i waked up and turn on my pc today,i had 22 msgs from players who lost their troops on persians,so maybe it was not good idea from me :P

Dorieas,they dont want me as a mod,i am no good for plarium

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Tonaya said:

i think this is the first time you said anything positively about Tonaya

You could even write a guide about PPs I think ;)

Alyona,you are plarium employed,you receive paycheck each month,moderators receive 2-3k drachma per week

Tonaya is poor and not a communist fan ^^

Tonaya

Tonaya, I think you are the perfect person for Manager on Community Support when Alyona get promotion for a higher department... But I have a feeling, that the well paid of 3 k drhs employees, ll not let you, to take easy the position from the hands of the Antarctic boy, I cant see you with payslips from this job...