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17 июнь 2016, 12:1817.06.16
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lol

Sell equipment which you don't need.. with pieces you can upgrade ther equipment.
20 июнь 2016, 20:0720.06.16
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Well, General can give good off and deff bonus on your army Archon.
21 июнь 2016, 21:0921.06.16
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Why does Plarium require us to break equipment into pieces and put durations on this trivial operation? Quite frankly it is infuriating!! I am not spending Drachmas for opening extra storage slots for this junk, nor boosts to break it up...  so now all the new stuff I collect from PPs goes directly into the trashcan.  I get new items much faster than I can break them up and most of it is junk anyway not worth to time that it takes to break it up for pieces.

There should at least be an option to instantly discard items I don't want to open slots for new items. The game is way too time consuming already... Managing the "Lady General's Accessory Wardrobe" is a whole new level of annoying, boring and time wasting. 

It tells me that my time is worth NOTHING to Plarium and that they feel free to waste it on lousy game features.

Lately Plarium seems to add lots of features that increase the "SUCK-factor" and none that improve the "FUN-factor". Why not add durations to mixing elixirs and to each tribute collection click...That should put the final nail in SWOE's coffin. 

23 июнь 2016, 03:2523.06.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Hi, boisdejustice!

You have many free slots, and you can receive multiple Chests and Keys which you can use to get Items. However, you should always consider the fact that if you don't need a particular Item, you will have to spend some time to break it. 

You can always use free Boosts you get in the game to break Items faster. We do have time limits, and we are not planning to remove them. Limits are necessary to maintain our game balance and certain dynamics. 

It woiuldn't be interesting if players with huge armies could get hundreds of Items for the first few days and equip their Heroes with the best Items, don't you agree? 

You don't need to rush. Just enjoy the game and collect Items if you can.

Your answer makes me even more furious because you are answering without responding to my complaint (Obviously not understanding it) other than the usual gloss-over Plarium Company line. 

The "many" free slots - including the temporary slots - are filled up in less than one PP campaign with a 60 pieces of junk equipment that take hours and dozens of game logins to get rid off... Please stop giving out trash items on each Persian Position!  I don't want another worthless item that takes 7 minutes to break up to get 10 lousy pieces. Give less items out so you don't clutter all the free slots or at least give me an option to throw them away instantly for free.  I don't want them blocking my storage slots!

The Generals feature is not interesting at all to begin with... making it tedious to manage is doubling down on stupid...

I get 25 identical common items clogging all the "free slots" and now I have to choose between spending 25 x 7 mins to break them up... in multiple visits during the day or use my boosts (No way!) or stop doing PPs or accept the fact that the new items I get from PPs go directly into the trash (Immediately Lost). This is horrible game mechanics.  If you don't understand an issue please don't pretend you do and answer my post!

23 июнь 2016, 06:5423.06.16
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I tend to agree reflecting on it more. Basically on defense you get nothing for Calvary or phalanx units anyways. You spend your entire time breaking pieces for light infantry which is really not that great unless you have really good light infantry bonuses elsewhere. I wont spend for keys since it's a given your bonuses will not be more than a grain of salt anyways. I'm not willing to break the bank just to increase my Calvary or Phalanx units it's not worth it. Almost every high level player I have looked at has around 24 to 31% increase for light infantry if they spend the time breaking pieces and waiting. Everyone else virtually no increase.
27 июнь 2016, 22:4427.06.16
27 июнь 2016, 22:47(отредактировано)
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Regarding the "sexist" comment... I assume you refer to my comment on the "Lady General with the broken fingernails"?  I think what is sexist here is Plarium's representation of a woman warrior as some "sex-object" in an evening gown. Why do male warriors look fierce and ready for battle while women warriors look like Barbie dressed up for a Halloween party?  Maybe because that image plays better with the majority of Plarium's targeted sexist male audience? I dislike it because it is sexist.

 
29 июнь 2016, 02:5129.06.16
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Here are a few examples of powerful women warriors presented in a dignified way... including a real Amazon warrior as depicted on ancient Greek pottery.  The Plarium cocktail dress Barbie doll is a sexist symbol but a real woman warrior she is not.


29 июнь 2016, 22:1229.06.16
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Part of my post was removed by Plarium with this comment


*Removed for breaking Forum rules 3.15*


Note that there is no forum rule 3.15 (3.1 to 3.14 exist but no 3.15)

Is it the secret rule that allows Plarium Moderators to remove anything they don't like without having to justify it?
1 июль 2016, 09:0901.07.16
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boisdejustice said:


Part of my post was removed by Plarium with this comment


*Removed for breaking Forum rules 3.15*


Note that there is no forum rule 3.15 (3.1 to 3.14 exist but no 3.15)

Is it the secret rule that allows Plarium Moderators to remove anything they don't like without having to justify it?

The link in the bottom will be fixed with the next Forum update. Current version of our Forum rules can be found here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/sparta-war-of-empires/game-rules-and-tutorials/topics/sparta-official-forum-rules/

2 июль 2016, 09:4302.07.16
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It is Plarium they make rules that suits them lol
2 июль 2016, 12:4102.07.16
2 июль 2016, 12:45(отредактировано)
25.08.14
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About generals :


- There are 8 slots, 4 for offense boosting items, and 4 for defense boosting items.

All items are 100% specialized in only one way. i.e. you won't find any shield boosting offense, nor will find any weapon boosting defense.

So "switchng" is totally nonsensical here.


Just collect items and replace them when you collect a more powerful one, that's all.

Break the weakest ones to enhance the better ones.


- The most interesting items are those that cover all 4 categories : light + heavy infantry + phalanx + cavalry.

There are no "phalanx only" nor "cavalry only" etc. items, meaning any item covering cavalry will inevitably cover the 3 other categories as well, with the exact same value (as values are either 0, or all the same anyway).

These are class IV items and are the only ones you should try to get, and that are worth upgrading (though the upgrade costs are very high, but since you can break all the rest, you should get enough pieces sooner or later). :p


- Of course, you may find some uncommon, rare or legendary items that yield better characteristics, but are of lower class than your, for instance, common class IV item.

Here you'll have to decide for a strategy : either keep the rare item giving you better boosts, but for/against low categories units only, or keep the universal one and enhance it to get better boosts in the end.

Well, considering what I said above, you can't count on some other rare item you could put in another slot to cover the phalanx and cavalry boosts you're missing, since it will also cover the lower ones anyway, so some combination of complementary equipment is not conceivable.

Yet, replacing any low class items by higher class ones is still a better choice IMHO, unless you're for instance using mostly offense infantry, then in this case, wearing a low class but rare or legendary item is probably a much better choice (and is cheaper to upgrade).


For this reason, I sometimes keep some good, but low class item spare, in order to switch when needed.


- Note that what can be true for offense, where you're the one choosing what units will fight, can probably not be for defense, when you don't master what will attack you.

I think in the case of defense slots, universal (class IV) items should stay a preferable choice in all cases (in order to keep no 0% bonus against higher class offenders), but once again, it's up to you. :)

As of course, if you know your opponent will usually sent you a buch of hoplites, then equipping an upgraded legendary class I item with a high defense bonus will be more efficient than equipping a poor class IV one. ^^


- About chests : their contents is random, but their class and quality are known in advance. It's clearly written in their description (and anyway, the needed key tells it all), so you know if it's worth buying a key (in case you don't have earned any matching one) or not.


I currently have an unopened legendary chest, but I'm not interested into buying a key, as it's only a class II one, and I'm all equipped in class IV already and don't wish to lower my phalanx and cavalry attributes. However, I'd be interested into breaking it for pieces, so if I can get a matching key by any means, I'll open it. Else I'll just drop it, as I consider it moslty useless.


HTH. :)


23 июнь 2016, 06:2523.06.16
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boisdejustice said:



Your answer makes me even more furious because you are answering without responding to my complaint (Obviously not understanding it) other than the usual gloss-over Plarium Company line. 


You don't understand yet that you're talking to a wall.

What answer do you expect to receive.

23 июнь 2016, 04:1323.06.16
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I believe that the option of delete/remove/trash should be added for unwanted items.

About "or accept the fact that the new items I get from PPs go directly into the trash (Immediately Lost)",  I don't think that is the case here because its an "first in - first out" method from what I understand.

That gives some extra time to break down the break-worthy items at least..

22 июнь 2016, 16:2422.06.16
22 июнь 2016, 16:24(отредактировано)
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And there is temporary inventory.. you can sell some equipment (from inventory) if you don't need and then you can move new equipment from temporary inventury to inventory.
22 июнь 2016, 13:0122.06.16
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boisdejustice said:


Why does Plarium require us to break equipment into pieces and put durations on this trivial operation? Quite frankly it is infuriating!! I am not spending Drachmas for opening extra storage slots for this junk, nor boosts to break it up...  so now all the new stuff I collect from PPs goes directly into the trashcan.  I get new items much faster than I can break them up and most of it is junk anyway not worth to time that it takes to break it up for pieces.

There should at least be an option to instantly discard items I don't want to open slots for new items. The game is way too time consuming already... Managing the "Lady General's Accessory Wardrobe" is a whole new level of annoying, boring and time wasting. 

It tells me that my time is worth NOTHING to Plarium and that they feel free to waste it on lousy game features.

Lately Plarium seems to add lots of features that increase the "SUCK-factor" and none that improve the "FUN-factor". Why not add durations to mixing elixirs and to each tribute collection click...That should put the final nail in SWOE's coffin. 

Hi, boisdejustice!


You have many free slots, and you can receive multiple Chests and Keys which you can use to get Items. However, you should always consider the fact that if you don't need a particular Item, you will have to spend some time to break it. 

You can always use free Boosts you get in the game to break Items faster. We do have time limits, and we are not planning to remove them. Limits are necessary to maintain our game balance and certain dynamics. 

It woiuldn't be interesting if players with huge armies could get hundreds of Items for the first few days and equip their Heroes with the best Items, don't you agree? 

You don't need to rush. Just enjoy the game and collect Items if you can.

20 июнь 2016, 13:5520.06.16
21 июнь 2016, 10:22(отредактировано)
07.10.15
46

New General thing is *... Wallet Warriors will always have something that puts them in front...


They copied this thing from game of war, because they cant figure the way to make more money on their own...


Watch your words, Archon!
17 июнь 2016, 20:2117.06.16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Hi, guys!


You've mentioned that your enemies can see your stats now. It's a game feature. But please remember that they can't see your other Bonuses, only your General's equipment.


As for selling/trading/etc Items, we are not planning to add such option. First of all, it could negatively affect our game balance. Moreover, your Items are your personal gain. You can't award other players for your efforts. 

IMO they shouldn't even be able to see my general equipment. When someone wants to invade a city the first thing they will do is check out their opponents generals light and heavy infantry defense bonuses and if it's too high they will think twice about attacking. I just don't like my enemies checking out my percentages on a regular basis. It's just another attempt to get players to wanna upgrade, spend money and "keep up" with those who are willing to spend to create massive generals. 
17 июнь 2016, 13:3917.06.16
03.08.15
505
RIX said:

BTW I have TWO Class I Legendary Vembraces for offense, what a waste
Are you not able to break them into pieces?It can give  a good number of pieces!
17 июнь 2016, 13:3417.06.16
27.01.15
546
BTW I have TWO Class I Legendary Vembraces for offense, what a waste
17 июнь 2016, 09:0817.06.16
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If swapping items is was to be allowed, it could potentially create enormous friction between coa members and/or friends.. just think about it..
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