Helena, it is frustrating, not annoying (their words) and they are so very sorry for the inconvenience of us spending money that went into their pockets, but now suck it up and pay me again for the same thing ....
Now i know why that coma was rudely saying "stay tuned"
to be honest I still hope they realize the mistake they are making. i really can not get into my head why they are killing the game with this
do they really belive we are going to let them to rob us the time, resources, drachmas, boosts etc.... we have put into it and stay quiet and keep expanding... they can not be that naive... they crossed a limit
Interestingly this 'essential' change seems only to affect the E abilities associated with defence.
If an attacker wishes to invoke the 75% def reduction ability of the Dimacha - that continues to work as before.
Just witnessed a 1,000+ cav attack accompanied by just 5 Dimacha's - Def reduction invoked.
Then 2nd attack of 36,000 cav with just 4 Dimacha's, yep you guessed it - attacker got 75% def reduction
Also I now note that Strategist Guardian has zero effect on invoke percentage of Pezo and Mama's defence abilities. the hundreds of hours spent in getting strategist Guardian, out the window
Plarium you are on notice - what you have done is fraud.
If these latest change are not revoked I will look at taking legal action for compensation.
The new game inbalance is so fun.
Either you hide everywhere and you are called farmer.
Either you are stupid enough to defend something and you can use thousands of euros to revive the quarter of your losses ( or wait 10 years of production )
I already know that many coalitions are doint this, as it's impossible to resist for them. Now, they want that even top coalitions stop any kind of fight and just watch Usgu destroy stupid enough players to defend something.
He attacked one of my alts in a small coalition and lost. I guess that must have been frustrating and now you do all what is possible so it can't happen any more.
thank you so much plarium.
Si plarium ne rétablit pas vite la situation sur les compétences élyséennes, les meilleurs combattants du jeu vont tout simplement arreter de jouer car aucun fun. Les autres joueurs suivront aussi car qui dit moins de combattants dit plus grand chose a faire sur un jeu mou.
L'état est critique, le jeu est dans une crise profonde.
guardien stratege imperatif pour jouer correctement
guardien stratege imperatif pour jouer correctement
The Guardian Strategist currently with the latest changes is worthless... and I have him at level 8 and illuminated 4 times.
Where are all the moderators and the community manager? it has passed one full working day since the question was raised !
The community manager was working yesterday and commented on a different topic, so today she is not working?
Today in Ukraine (the main support country) or other plarium support country is almost the end of the working day and still no answer.
The demand was not to fix the problem but to give a short straight forward answer to the simple question, was this change a mistake in the upgrade of the application or a deliberate change without a permission from the players to do this change and without a pre advance notice?
This delay in the simple answer is not good. In my own and any other normal working companies, such delay in answers would have caused the relevant people to pay the price and be thrown out !
Hello all. Lets me explain something. Moderators are players and we did hope that it is a bug, but unfortunately, it isn't. Only the Administration are Plarium's employees.
Sorry for the late reply, but we had to manage the Facebook community page, where all the big boys were too angry as they have been affected heavily by this unexpected and unfair decrease in the elysian unit's ability.
The mods team stood with the players in this, and we forwarded to the right channels our opinion about this change, along with the players' posts and comments, but I'm afraid that it is final. Of course, the smaller players haven't been affected so much.
There is no logical explanation for this decrease, unless the developers have an ace in their sleeves, at least I do hope that there will be an upcoming change to the elysian units that will justify this change, and all will be as before. We will see. In my humble opinion as a player, quitting the game isn't so good idea because we might regret it in the newer future.
By the way, if your strategist doesn't work, please submit a ticket to the Support.
We all know what the ace in their sleeves will be
You want your elysean to work as before ? Just pay 25 000 sketches and upgrade the elysean up to lvl 30 when it will be online. ( and some will pay some thousands $ to manage it )
You talk about no change for " smaller players ".
Lol sure. I play with some. In a matter of fact I nearly don't understand them.
They don't play any tournament, they don't upgrade anything, they don't defend cities, they don't try to keep an emporia. Everything would be a suicide. To be honnest I don't even understand why they are playing this game as they can do nothing.
I was able to protect some with elyseans or troops, and now, I can't even do it myself, even with some billions in def.
That's just ridiculous.
More than 1 000 euros monthly ingame and you can't do anything. Most of the guys I know stopped paying anything ingame, even the smaller packs or the battle pass. I don't understand the plarium strategy.
I know some other games where you are supposed to pay, but never I have seen so much gap between some heavy golders, and other players.
So finally we are told what I already knew, it's not a bug.
Plarium.
1) Many of us have put literally years of time effort and investment into developing E. troop agreements. *IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO SIMPLY DISS THIS.*
This is a complete betrayal of ethical behavious and wreaks any vestage of trust we have in Plarium.
E abilities were already slanted towards the attacker (for example; someone who developed the Dimacha 75% CBD reduction, can invoke said ability the majority of the time with just a handful of Dimacha's. If a defence minded player wants to get the 50% def boost using Pezo's, then defender has to use literally thousands of Pezo's to get boost, if they wish to defend to a reasonable level.
2) If it is 'essential' that we cannot use thousands of Mama's to provide PA protection, how can you justify that someone can simple purchase a temporary City Scheme and get even better PA protection? Please do not even try to answer that one, it was a rhetorical question, the real reason is blindingly obvious and has absolutely nothing to do with the change being essential.
3) the nett effect is that every sensible player who does not have the costly temporary schema will spend the entire CC under a defence bubble. I am playing against Nord atm, virtually all Nord (yes the powerful and mighty Nord coa) and Term cities are bubbled. If they are not then they are PA'd to death. Why Plarium thinks that style of game play is essential to the future of Sparta completely and utterly defeats me.
3) Since it is obvious this is an attempt to coerce players into spending money and increase Sparta's revenue stream. Good luck with that one, a bunch of Terms players including our Hedge have quit. This not only affects any revenue from those cities, it also means the game gets less and less satisfying for all. Soon even the players who spend spend spend to bully bully bully, will run out of targets.
Game Over.
If Plarium don't rethink this change in the next few days, my 3 cities will exit.
Hello. I do understand my fellow players, as I'm playing this game for more than 8 years. I don't know what the developers' plans are, and how they will rebalance what the players lost, but I'm really curious to see if they really have an ace in their sleeve or not. Mods'team forwarded to the right channels the players' frustration along with ours, but frankly, I don't think that Plarium will give back what they changed, as it was planned.
In the past years, I tried 2 times to quit the game, because I had very little free time to play and practically no goals, but I always returned, because Sparta isn't only a game of pixels, Sparta is the Players we have met into the game, friends or foes. Sparta is the laughs and the frustrations and the constant struggle to win, and to build something. Sparta is a distraction from real-life problems, like a virtual antidepressant pill. Think it twice before you will quit, and this comes from my bottom of my heart as Gamer.
Hi all:
well, now we all know that this decrease in elysian habilities was an intended change, and our CM apologized for not informing them in advance.
As a player, I have to say that I agree with you all and this is not a change I support. But, also as a player, I know that Sparta is a lot more than elysian abilities, so, despite I am dissapointed, I will be still playing with my friends.
I hope you all do.
Hi all:
well, now we all know that this decrease in elysian habilities was an intended change, and our CM apologized for not informing them in advance.
As a player, I have to say that I agree with you all and this is not a change I support. But, also as a player, I know that Sparta is a lot more than elysian abilities, so, despite I am dissapointed, I will be still playing with my friends.
I hope you all do.
the problem is that it was not free to get them and they STOLE FROM US
Hello. I do understand my fellow players, as I'm playing this game for more than 8 years. I don't know what the developers' plans are, and how they will rebalance what the players lost, but I'm really curious to see if they really have an ace in their sleeve or not. Mods'team forwarded to the right channels the players' frustration along with ours, but frankly, I don't think that Plarium will give back what they changed, as it was planned.
In the past years, I tried 2 times to quit the game, because I had very little free time to play and practically no goals, but I always returned, because Sparta isn't only a game of pixels, Sparta is the Players we have met into the game, friends or foes. Sparta is the laughs and the frustrations and the constant struggle to win, and to build something. Sparta is a distraction from real-life problems, like a virtual antidepressant pill. Think it twice before you will quit, and this comes from my bottom of my heart as Gamer.
i am glad you dont mind being robbed as you consider the money spent as antidepressants. I don't agree with you, i spent money in a game to get some ABILITIES that they took away, thats robbing us of drachmas, boosts etc... because probably if the result was this, i may not have bothered with them,
the way it was done.... they are ROBBING US, STEALING
as mods you should tell them how the have kill game, MANY are closing accounts, trying to sell them, or organizing to do massive suicide of all troops ... and find another place together to play..
thanks to facebook group, we are informed of WHAT THEY DONT INFORM HERE
Hello Fortuna, you are right. It is why it is essential for a Com player to become a Mod on the Forum pages. We are players too and we were surprised about the changes as all the players were. We forwarded all the player's posts and comments to the managers. Plus we had to reply to the players' private messages as there were loading issues, and to our coalition chats on 3 servers. I didn't make it even to play my game at that time. So, if there is an active and helpful player of Com Sparta who wants to be a mod, please let me know.
The Plarium appologies are not serios. The change in stats was big change, and Plarium intentionally not notified the players. Why? so not all the players will find it or find it gradually and reduce the opposition.
Let's talk about the legality of the change.
A. Assuming player buys Sparta package of 1000 agema and receives only 500, it is clearly a theft, and people will go to jail for that.
B. Assuming player buys Sparta package of 1000 agema, receives 1000, but after 2 days 500 units magically disappear intentionally by the selling company, it is a theft.
C. Assuming player buys Sparta package of 1000 agema with 3000 attack points each, receives 1000 as expected, but after 2 days the units stats are reduced to 1500 attack points intentionally by the selling company, it is a theft.
Elysian units attack or defence points are divided into 2 parts, first part is the regular attack or defence points and second part is the elysian special ability that enlarge the offence/defence points of other units, same stats are working in a certain way for a long time.
D. Assuming player buys Sparta package of 1000 Elysian with 3000 attack points each and 3000 points of special ability, receives 1000 units as expected, but after 2 days the units special ability stats are reduced each from 3000 to 1500 points intentionally by the selling company, it is a theft.
Mods - Katia, Vanesa and Elias, do you agree the above 4, and especially point D that reducing the special ability stats, without permission, from players that bought these stats with a lot of money, can be called legally stealing from players? It is interesting to see what you think about this formal definition of actions.
as mods you should tell them how the have kill game, MANY are closing accounts, trying to sell them, or organizing to do massive suicide of all troops ... and find another place together to play..
Fortuna, I don't know who you are on FB community page, but I bet you saw that I'm not afraid to tell my opinion. Of course, we have forwarded to the Managers the players' frustration along with ours.
The Managers weren't informed about the change as well, that's why they needed a day to find out what was going on, and when they informed us that is not a bug that popped up from the capital new levels, as we hoped that it was, I posted it as a player and not a mod, as it is the Managers job to inform officially the players.
I saw such a change before, in a paid feature's status quo in another game but we did nothing because the management sent us a general message and told us that the server will be closed as unprofitable. Those changes usually come from very high and are well-planned to measure the losses and the gains.
I'm sorry that I wasn't here to inform you, but it was humanly impossible to be in so many places at the same time.
De toute façon le seul but de plarium avec tout ça c'est de pouvoir vendre des assassins et des cités anti assassins, histoire de faire de l'argent!!
Déjà que le jeu était devenu une véritable usine à gaz, s'ils se moquent de nous de cette façon, je n'ai plus envie de m'investir dans quelque chose où les dès sont pipés.
