This is all really rich. I spend three months building a clan boss team around a guaranteed champion. Grinding in a game that does nothing to make game play more efficient. And for what? A surprise nerf that kills like, what, 100 hours of effort in Geo and all the other champions I built to support him? And then you (the moderators) have the gall to ask for me to show you that it's a nerf?!? Just have the damn software engineers do their jobs. They have access to all of the clan boss teams anyone has ever put together on their servers. They could test their change by simply test running all of those comps on their own time and see if the damage matches up. This is software engineering 101. What we are seeing here is gross incompetence and a callous disregard for the humanity of the players they are supposed to serve.

Geomancer damage is definetely lower than before when his passive no longer trigger Giant Slayer and War Master.

See my screenshot for NM Clanboss - Force (red) affinity. Before nerf (Screenshot at Nov 4):

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and after nerf (Screenshot today Nov 6):

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Clearly before nerf Geomancer was doing much higher damage than Brogni and after nerf they are doing same level of damage. 

I don't think I can do 2 key UNM anymore with exactly same team. I spent money on Geomancer guranteed shard pull to build my UNM clanboss team. Now the key champ got nerfed without any notice?!!

To be honest, Geomancer was never OP and he is only good at clanboss. Plarium I want my money and resources back!

Before the nerf: 

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After the nerf: 

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Force Affinity

Pre change -

• Many players use Giant Slayer to make use of the multiple 'hits' that proc it (quotations are for the fact they did not count as hits agaisnt say FK shield) to deal increased damage due to usually getting 2-3 procs on average vs the single proc of Warmaster.
• Use of Giant Slayer adds 7.5% HP damage to typical mobs encountered in dungeons/waves.
• Geomancer is capable of healling of the damage his passive does, adding sustainability to the champion - also helping his damage as he stays up. 

Change as invisoned, tested, and implimented -

• Given flat 4% damage vs all opponents, with a 1 time 60% proc (that isn't even correct, I'll try and get screenshots if I have to but the passive only deals 75k against CB when Rhazin with Giant Slayer that is only supposed to be 3% deals 77k and change)
• Healing is removed from proc damage, significantly dropping survivability.

I'm sorry - but them forcing it to not use the masteries, and instead force it to behave like Warmaster over Giant Slayer is already a very clear nerf without testing. As is the very clear and obvious loss of 3.5% HP damage vs waves and if I recall from the top of my head more for Warmaster procs against wave champions or arena ones. And so too is the removal of the ability to heal from that damage dealt. The fact that this change should have been tested, should have revealed all of this before it ever went live. Unless the reason it didn't end up in the post, or in the videos CC's like HellHades put out about the patches, is that it was a rushed and untested adjustment - which I know from taking the class is something literally taught in Game Design 101 to NOT do. 

I don't see how this was 'unintended' - I know that's what they are telling you guys, and trying to sell to us, but there is no way that the people who's job it is to balance and program this game and all, should not know all of what I listed above would be a nerf without testing, let alone with. There is no way, if this was even remotely close to properly tested, that how big a nerf this is should have slipped through, let alone the bug you guy shad to hotfix on the damage - which honestly, the more belevivable story would be 'sorry guys, we rushed to fix a bug (that I honestly never once encountered in the weeks I've had the champ) and did not actually test what we did properly, sorry'. Followed by 'heres a bunch of usually hard to get chickens, books, and maybe even shards for the massive headaches we just caused you all, and all the stuff we just messed up for you'. And if they seriously could not tell these adjustments would be a nerf, and did not see in testing, unless no testing was done which is itself then an issue, that this was a nerf, then that raises whole other levels of concern than what comes across as shady practices thinly veiled. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJz0ttLyeB4

this blogger showed a bug for Geomancer. Extra high damage!!!  how is this possible!!??

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I am not going to argue with y'all about it, or dispute off the cuff numbers and calcs. I did my own calcs on a darn sticky note and thought, Oh Crap, this is probably a nerf. 

No, I'm just stating what I've been told. Basically, if his passive was nerfed by the change, Plarium intends to fix. But they aren't in the studio now, and won't be for several hours. 

If there is no change after they have time to look at it, I will be as frustrated as all of you are. Until they do get in, I'm just collecting more player info. If you can get the screens of the damage differences you mentioned, that would be great. I want to see a per hit diff myself to try and suss out how they are calculating Dec Dec/Weaken versus Ignore Def for this skill.

Yes. I have that gall. I must be a monster, asking you to help me show Plarium this is a nerf. 

I get that you're angry, and I am the target of that anger, but if you had time to drag me, take a second of that and also send me a screen or two. If not for you, maybe for the people in my own clan who use Geomancer and whose teams I built. It's fine if you don't, I will still collect the screens from my clanmates and use less submissions instead of more.

I'm sorry - but are you for real? 'Did not intend for this to be a nerf'? I'm sorry if this comes across as rude and offensive but anyone with half a brain should be able to realize, without us coming here since they are paid to work on this game, that making it a flat 4% on a 60% chance one time that no longer heals the champ is a freaking nerf. 

Most players ran Giant Slayer cause hey - it could proc 2-3 times ona hit, with Giant Slayer also vs normal mobs giving us a total of 7.5% HP done against them. so that's 1-2 less hits of a % proc x number of turns a team survives. So if we just call it 50k to keep the math simple, in a team that runs 20 turns, your costing them between 1-2 million damage per run and again that's an example number, it's actually higher in many cases. I just ran nightmare after your hotfix - and it not counting my pre-fix run cause of timing, my damage agaisnt Force Affinity CB went down AT MINIMUM 20% as I was usually hitting around 36 million, and I just ran a sub 29 million. Then again the reflects themselves seem to also be doing less damage as I'm seeing 100's, not 1000's. And oh, by the way, you guys screwed up the damage from the procs AGAIN, because the 4% proc from my Geomancer is dealing a flat 75k like his HP burn, when my Rhazin, who has a working Giant Slayer proc at only 3%, is dealing 77 and change per hit which again, starts to add up. It also changes the champions ability to heal off damage from what it was - because now, he doesn't heal off the procs at all - which is an absolutely massive nerf to his usability and his survivability compared to prenerf. Or did you testers not realize this - or did you guys not even test these changes just throw them out there thinking everything would be okay? If the ignore DEF adds anything to the damage it's so trivial as to be irrelevent. 

Make it that we can heal off the damage, and either straight up an auto version of Giant Slayer off the reflects, or 3% at a 40-50% chance if your going to have it 1 flat percent vs all targets to make up for the damage lost to adds and perhaps being a compromise for any that didn't run Giant Slayer over Warmaster, and then we can talk about it maybe not being a nerf. But seriously, none of the people that test, none of the people that develop, program, balance, etc thought this was a nerf or noticed it's effects? This kind of nonsense is what not only stopped me spending money on games like World of Warships - but drove me away entirely. 

By the way - reagardless of how you fix this nerf - if you actually do, you need to come up with a way to refund us since we now need to change masteries and invested other resources in to him that were now out. Could have put the 800 gems toward the damn fusion instead since he'll likely be mostly benched for months while you figure this out.