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NEED HELP WITH DRAGON 20

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6 сент. 2024, 21:2306.09.24
01.04.24
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NEED HELP WITH DRAGON 20

This are the champs i've level up to 60 so far. I amanged to get to dragon lv 19 by making different teams with this 10 champsm, abusing the type advange. But dragon lv 20 is just too much. I can't even reach him because any combination gets owned by the third wave. 

everyone has 5+rank sets and mostly  perception, speed and life steal. Except for ugo who has a reflex set so it can spam the res when I need it and resilence to make sure she is the last one to day. 

I imagine that ninja should replace galek as my nuker/damage dealer but the fack that Ninja has less aoe attacks kinda feels like it takes too long to clear the waves. And galek is getting left behing by the other champs. He is hitting less than warmaiden even though he has similar stats. And dies very quickly on battles. ¿Should I change his breastplate of atk% for one with def or hp? He is also my campain farmer so he has this vampire set on but maybe I should change that too?

anyway, I don't want to make this post too long so i'm closing my mouth now. If more info is required for a better diagnose,just ask. Thank you very much in advance. 

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6 сент. 2024, 22:5206.09.24
01.07.22
472

Try the other sort option to the upper left that shows your champions horizontally instead of vertically. You've got Ninja and Uugo so that's a great start but we'll need to see more to help

6 сент. 2024, 22:5406.09.24
01.04.24
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Onikage55

Try the other sort option to the upper left that shows your champions horizontally instead of vertically. You've got Ninja and Uugo so that's a great start but we'll need to see more to help

you're right, I forgot about that. most of them are food or stuff i'm prepariong for fusions.

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7 сент. 2024, 00:5507.09.24
01.07.22
472

Well the good news is you have a bunch of champs for hydra (Ninja, uugo, shamael) but as far as Dragon 20 goes, I'm not too familiar with some of the epics. 

Loki in a stun set might serve you well for those waves. Synergy with Ultimate Galek with inc atk and inc debuff duration on his AOE HP Burn. Also uugo for the aoe decrease defense and block buffs. High Khatun is some CC with Turn Meter manipulation.

Khatun in lead, Loki, Uugo, Ultimate Galek and Ninja would be my suggestion. Ninja's AOE Freeze would buy you a turn to get everyone debuffed with HP Burn and Dec Def as well, plus Khatun's increase speed/turn meter along with decrease turn meter aoe would buy you more time. You'll just have to manually do the waves to make sure your team has their debuffs ready for the start of the next round until you have a solid Team Setup with priorities that work.

If any of the epics you have can do AOE stun, then I'd use them. Once you're at Dragon, you shouldn't be too concerned

7 сент. 2024, 02:3607.09.24
7 сент. 2024, 02:37(отредактировано)
16.11.20
1169

gearing issue. No speed, accuracy, or crit rate.

7 сент. 2024, 03:5907.09.24
24.04.22
820

This is my alt steam account ... 

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its a gear issue for the most part ... lack of books to make stuff 3-4 turn CD .. etc ...


I still cant do dragon 20 but can do dragon 17 with ease and thats good enough for sub 90 days account ....should help you guess whats missing for you to hit dragon 20 


7 сент. 2024, 05:4407.09.24
01.07.22
472
Lyryal

This is my alt steam account ... 

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its a gear issue for the most part ... lack of books to make stuff 3-4 turn CD .. etc ...


I still cant do dragon 20 but can do dragon 17 with ease and thats good enough for sub 90 days account ....should help you guess whats missing for you to hit dragon 20 


Not to get too off topic but is there any benefit to playing via Steam instead of Plarium Play?

7 сент. 2024, 06:0107.09.24
31.01.20
1059

Is your problem gertting through the waves?  Or can you get through the waves, but get smoked by the Dragon?  Different solutions for each.  

7 сент. 2024, 06:0907.09.24
31.01.20
1059

You've only shown us the build for Ninja, but I will offer you feedback on that build:

Ninja is a damage dealer, and probably your best one right now.  He should wear damage gear or accuracy gear to help him do damage and land his debuffs.  He needs 100% Crit Rate for sure.  Find your best Crit Rate gloves and put them on him for now.  Later, you may want to switch his gloves to Crit Damage.    

Bolster gear belongs on your supports that have higher base HP, which can scale the shield higher.    

7 сент. 2024, 07:1007.09.24
7 сент. 2024, 07:11(отредактировано)
01.07.22
472
WileyMan

Is your problem gertting through the waves?  Or can you get through the waves, but get smoked by the Dragon?  Different solutions for each.  

As I understood it, they aren't getting to round 3. I made my recommendations based on that. They do have solid champs to handle rounds 1 & 2 but from others' observations, this may be a gear issue but I do believe with CC (like Ninja's freeze and Khatun's TM stuff) they'll be able to get through them and overall be fine once they get to the dragon itself.

Do you think they should be doing IG or FK instead maybe? IG 20 could be a option but I don't think even FK16 would be possible with the current roster

7 сент. 2024, 08:4807.09.24
16.12.21
1317

visix, armigar, ruella, and fat man will take care of FK when the time comes


Biggest issue is gear;need to raise up speeds, acc, res, crit rate, etc

7 сент. 2024, 17:2407.09.24
01.04.24
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thank you all so much for the tips. I'm going to show you know the gearing of my other champs.

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7 сент. 2024, 17:2907.09.24
01.04.24
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MooredRat

visix, armigar, ruella, and fat man will take care of FK when the time comes


Biggest issue is gear;need to raise up speeds, acc, res, crit rate, etc

I started leveling up ruella for that very reason. 😁

7 сент. 2024, 17:3607.09.24
01.04.24
9
WileyMan

You've only shown us the build for Ninja, but I will offer you feedback on that build:

Ninja is a damage dealer, and probably your best one right now.  He should wear damage gear or accuracy gear to help him do damage and land his debuffs.  He needs 100% Crit Rate for sure.  Find your best Crit Rate gloves and put them on him for now.  Later, you may want to switch his gloves to Crit Damage.    

Bolster gear belongs on your supports that have higher base HP, which can scale the shield higher.    

That build is because I copied it from that ash guy that puts videos on youtube. The idea is that Ninja last longer in guild boss to stack more the burning debuff.

7 сент. 2024, 21:0307.09.24
31.01.20
1059
erkimista

That build is because I copied it from that ash guy that puts videos on youtube. The idea is that Ninja last longer in guild boss to stack more the burning debuff.

You don't have enough accuracy to be landing Ninja's Debuffs with that build in clan boss or in higher dungeon wave content.  As a geneaal rule you want a min of 10 X Dungeon Level, so for Dragon 20, that means 200 Acc.

If you want to use Ninja as your primary damage dealer, you need to build him to land his debuffs and to do damage.        

7 сент. 2024, 21:3907.09.24
01.07.22
472
erkimista

That build is because I copied it from that ash guy that puts videos on youtube. The idea is that Ninja last longer in guild boss to stack more the burning debuff.

How many pieces of 5-6 Perception can you craft? Or even 4-5? Perception Sets might be the best way to go if you don't have ACC banners

7 сент. 2024, 23:3507.09.24
01.04.24
9
Onikage55

How many pieces of 5-6 Perception can you craft? Or even 4-5? Perception Sets might be the best way to go if you don't have ACC banners

Should I put perception on everything or just ninja?

8 сент. 2024, 04:0408.09.24
01.07.22
472
erkimista

Should I put perception on everything or just ninja?

For the team I suggested, it would be everyone to get that 200 acc that was referenced earlier. I did want to make one correction tho, put Loki in the lead. That's 60 ACC for everyone from his aura so you'll only need 140ish per champ. 

One more tip for survivability, Def/HP Rings and Necks will help stay alive, one of each. I'd do that for now just to increase your chances, plus Galek and Ninja are gonna be doing a lot of damage to the Round 1 and 2 champs through HP Burn anyway

15 сент. 2024, 21:0015.09.24
01.04.24
9

It has been achieved. Thank a lot to you all.

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15 сент. 2024, 22:2315.09.24
16.12.21
1317
erkimista

It has been achieved. Thank a lot to you all.

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Congrats!

Who did you end up using for your team?

16 сент. 2024, 03:3916.09.24
01.04.24
9
MooredRat

Congrats!

Who did you end up using for your team?

The team that onikage suggested but I exchanged ultimate galek with torturehelm only because I don't have Galek all leveled up yet. I'm still having. I made them fight like 10 times and lost half those tries on dragon with less than 20% of hp but it's been a great improvement. I'll focus now on getting ultimate galek geared and leveled up and give it another go