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Which is better for Hydra?

Which is better for Hydra?

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24 май 2024, 22:4424.05.24
24 май 2024, 22:46(отредактировано)
15.01.21
1202
dthorne04

things you'll want (bit of a tl;dr because I'm trying not to miss anything): 

at least one cursed set

consistent resets on trundas 

good damage sets on trundas (6 pc merci + zeal with a bloodshield accessory is the current tops, but ignore defense 4 pc sets + zeal with bloodshield is good too)

9 piece protection is good on lydia

high stat Cruelty on one of your AoE champs, preferably A1

Crushing Rend on 6* Trunda, Heavencast otherwise

I wouldn't run a third Trunda, I'd look at bringing in a Lanakis to lower crit rate on the builds, or another reset champ like Kymar/Nia and likely get Nekmo out. He's probably eating too many turns.

The two trundas are in decent sets (one in savage, the other lethal and both 300+ crit damage/6.5k attack and both on 265 speed so that they get A2 turns at the same time)

Cruelty is on nekmo at present.  And i have crushing rend on one trunda

I did toy with putting in nia and taking out nekmo, when i trialled it, it didnt feel as good, but nia was half built. 

The reason i considered nekmo for the cursed set is simply that he has the a1 aoe.

Dont get me wrong, the team has done close to a billion points on its own before now (its easier to do so on normal), but with clash as it is i want the ability to put a couple of billion points on in the last hour or two- two help ninja a win


25 май 2024, 19:1625.05.24
31.01.20
1061

@kramaswamy.kr 

Something to shoot for with your Trunda comp:

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25 май 2024, 19:2225.05.24
25.06.20
6757

I get the feeling I might not have the team for that :P

28 май 2024, 17:5128.05.24
28 май 2024, 17:52(отредактировано)
07.12.20
123
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And what kind of sets of gear has each of them, please?


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that was todays key on hard, Shamael was kinda a makeshift res tank originally but team all has resist now so probs wants to be in nuke gear

6 июнь 2024, 23:0506.06.24
22.11.23
14
dax


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that was todays key on hard, Shamael was kinda a makeshift res tank originally but team all has resist now so probs wants to be in nuke gear

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10 июнь 2024, 23:2010.06.24
25.06.20
6757

Okay - so I've had a chance to play around with these a bit. Some thoughts:

1) No ATK down is really, really rough. Even with the block buffs and Lydia's Strengthen and so on, and even on a lower difficulty like Hard, Wrath still demolishes people. I've had to sub in an ATK down champ to make things smoother. For now, I'm using Ukko in place of Gurptuk - though I don't love the huge overlap in champs of similar roles, from what I can tell Ukko is the only person who has both ATK down and Block Buffs.

2) I think Trunda really needs to be geared better for this team to work. From what I can tell, the damage is okay right up to the point where multiple heads are decapp'ed when Trunda A2 is available, at which point the damage just jumps way up. But, I still can't figure out how to consistently make that happen. Even with SPD down and SPD up, I can't consistently cycle moves for Trunda. Some of you who are getting those massive results, would love to see what kind of stats your Trunda has.

3) The best I've managed to do so far is Trunda lead + Shamael/Lydia/Gwyndolin/Eostrid/Ukko. But, as you can see, that's *three* champs that bring SPD up, which is nice in terms of keeping it active permanently, but seriously overkill in terms of potential. Eostrid feels like the weak link in terms of usefulness, except that her healing is pretty useful. Still - think I'm gonna try dropping her, possibly for someone like Emic or Kymar.

dthorne04Moderator
10 июнь 2024, 23:2910.06.24
10 июнь 2024, 23:34(отредактировано)
30.12.20
6340

2) is the big issue here, along with not having resets for Trunda/the team which is going to hurt things a lot.

I think finding a way to bring in Emic AND Kymar would be good especially since that will allow you to mitigate taking too much damage since you're worried about dropping attack down. 

harleQuinnModerator
10 июнь 2024, 23:4410.06.24
24.02.19
8019
dthorne04

2) is the big issue here, along with not having resets for Trunda/the team which is going to hurt things a lot.

I think finding a way to bring in Emic AND Kymar would be good especially since that will allow you to mitigate taking too much damage since you're worried about dropping attack down. 

Or Emic/Lix. Those two resetting each other, plus the shields, AoE slow and unkillable, it solves a lot of problems 

11 июнь 2024, 00:5911.06.24
07.12.20
123


i

That was last nites key, 1st time using Nia, watched 10 mins, Nia used her reset on Arby half the time so moving her to 2nd in order may help with that also poison cloud was annoying, so cud likelys get another 500m if manualled it

11 июнь 2024, 01:1911.06.24
25.06.20
6757

Can you post your stats on Trunda please? Thanks :)

11 июнь 2024, 02:1411.06.24
07.12.20
123
kramaswamy.kr

Can you post your stats on Trunda please? Thanks :)


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11 июнь 2024, 02:4211.06.24
25.06.20
6757

Damn. Okay, that is *way* higher than mine. And, are you running Savage/Cruel? Or just maximizing stats?

dthorne04Moderator
11 июнь 2024, 04:5611.06.24
30.12.20
6340
kramaswamy.kr

Damn. Okay, that is *way* higher than mine. And, are you running Savage/Cruel? Or just maximizing stats?

The 6* blessing makes a huge difference there. :)


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This is mine (yes I know area bonuses stink) with Lanakis making the build easier. Lethal/Zeal with a bloodshield accessory. Still hunting for Merciless accessories for Dwarves...

11 июнь 2024, 07:4311.06.24
07.12.20
123
kramaswamy.kr

Damn. Okay, that is *way* higher than mine. And, are you running Savage/Cruel? Or just maximizing stats?

Lethal/Crit damage, kinda want as much ignore def as possible combined with 6star crushing rend, got Nia and Lydia in cursed sets to keep Hex up

21 июнь 2024, 15:3721.06.24
25.06.20
6757

So, I just got Nia, and she does very well on this team, except for one thing - I can't figure out how to get her to use her A2 on a specific champ. I figured putting someone as lead would do it, but she still seems to want to use it on herself. Any tips/tricks?