The reply and solution from Plarium and all the moderators is to just spend more money. That's the only way you can possible band together and make an attempt to bring RuAL down.

Plarium created RuAL simply to try and implode their bank accounts. There is absolutely nothing they have put into the game to help players that doesn't eventually cost you the dreaded RED GEM.

As a matter of fact, the only real advantage to help the players is the Harbor upgrades and for those you need a really big pile of the Gems to accomplish this monumental feat, And they offer a special on them so seldom it's to be almost non-existent. Most of the coiners already have them so they just parade their mighty fleets around smashing so many lower level players in search of the infamous PvP, oh and who wins that, never a player only Plarium (RuAL)

bubbaranks said:

if plarium is unwilling to serve itself..then it can no longer serve its players and its players is the sole of its business.  Plariums business model is broken along with its game..fellows....time for plarium to answer the call

well it still works for them as long as Total Control isnt available in english ... it is way cheaper and obviously way more effective, so if players would have the choice they would of course pay total control instead of plarium, as plarium offers no service in comparison.

crazy idea: as plarium devs speak russian they should get a total control account and build up a real "ingame security" with thousands of bots themselves to fight the bot-brotherhoods ingame?

Blasphemy said:

Guys, the thing is, all we can do is guide you here, tell you what to do

That is all, Even Alyona doesn't have the power to directly ban in the game,

What she can do is go forward and tell the right people what is happening, and they look into it..

And therein lies the problem, or why nothing gets done.

I saw in here, either the CM or a support reply that stated, paraphrase, "We see nothing wrong with this haven" which means, they will do nothing.

The big picture is... Bigbigdata 01, bigbigdata 02 onwards to bigbigdata 100 which we see but support does not see because... They are only looking at one of 100 and not the big picture of... they all pretty much look the same, they all became active at one time or the other and they are all, obviously, created by that haven creation tool, on the same day.

Support probably has a list of what to look at, and multiple havens with nearly the same name, in a row, is not on that list to look at.

I see a bunch of BD 1 to BD 50 havens have shown up near bubble land in the NE sector, nah, this is normal stuff, 50 new players log in, close together, and by coincidence, all use the same letters, they just add a different number to the end. Nothing at all suspicious there folks.

Then we have the company attesting that they NEVER created all of the harvest havens, mostly in a row, with names like de5hu3m5h. Some rows are level 34s, some 64s, no one knows where they came from and no one will do anything about it. Because, the big picture is not seen, again.

translating total control is a matter of that..plarium fails its players

Darwyn/Maxski,

Why are you replying to your own comment, from a different account, and spamming all topics with the same screenshot ?

Maxski said:

Crowbar

Your answer to Darwyn is ?????

May I see the diary of that account with 30k Subs? Specifically, the prizes score?

Please, stop insinuating that the mods are covering up some big Plarium cheating agenda here. I simply refuse to throw accusations as long as there is another viable explanation. And the "contact Support" answer simply means that we can't help and the Support should be able to do something. We have no influence on their actions and if they don't do their jobs, that's really not on us. Pouring your anger on mods (and/or CMs) is completely useless and serves only to make you feel better, not to even try to solve the problem.

Btw, I don't understand this alleged Plarium's way of ripping us off. In short: they created RuAL, making that BH is invincible (unlimited rubies or whatnot), but that same BH is now taking other players' accounts and returning them with troops (for free or at least much cheaper that you'd pay Plarium for the same thing, that part is unclear). Why? Where's the profit in that? It still looks to me more like RuAL has a "system", whatever that might be. Even if a hack/cheat/whatever, that gives me more reason to believe that Plarium is not behind them. Those who disagree, I'd appreciate showing the flaw(s) in my reasoning.

No doubt this thread will be closed next, because we are duplicating reports by reporting the SAME BOTS over and over again

They are de-activated and re-activate 3 days later

Alyona said:

Closed as a duplicate. You can discuss the issue here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/game-discussion/31555_re--game-hackers--a-formal-response-from-a-plarium-company-respresentative----who--when--where-----/5
Please do not create multiple threads on one topic, they will be closed. Let's keep our forum clean.

This bot line was deactivated in March and again in September - so what was the point of reporting them when they continue to win tournament rewards?

Re-activated bot winning prize tournament rewards - http://prntscr.com/dl11jl
No doubt using the same Prize exploits and free revives used by our russian friends

Please send a ticket?

Can ALL VIP customers contact co-ordinators using VIP Chat?

Bypass this forum - ignore it - go over their heads

We have been ignored too long

jtbegley said:

Apparently Nightmare YOU (the traitor and sell out???) is embarrassed and sends his alt to reply

And im not Nightmare :))

Snowgoon said:

No doubt this thread will be closed next, because we are duplicating reports by reporting the SAME BOTS over and over again

They are de-activated and re-activate 3 days later

Alyona said:

Closed as a duplicate. You can discuss the issue here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/game-discussion/31555_re--game-hackers--a-formal-response-from-a-plarium-company-respresentative----who--when--where-----/5
Please do not create multiple threads on one topic, they will be closed. Let's keep our forum clean.

This bot line was deactivated in March and again in September - so what was the point of reporting them when they continue to win tournament rewards?

Re-activated bot winning prize tournament rewards - http://prntscr.com/dl11jl

Please send a ticket?

Can ALL VIP customers contact co-ordinators using VIP Chat?

Bypass this forum - ignore it - go over their heads

We have been ignored too long

Dont confuse us with stormfall we don't have VIP players, we are all the same

again all we can do is tell you to contact support

starting to sound like a broken record my self but truth be told.. we can't do anything about it in the forum 

Another instance of writing scripts/coding! On The Golden Coast server:

... apparently people writing/running scripts in the game !?!? -> This person -1474; 1070 (L54), just had 27K Bonnies on a Treasure Island.. there is NO WAY they could make that many. AND...

That is the 3rd-4th person from that same bh ( ### MARIA GAME ### ) that has done/is doing this (putting 10K-30K Bonnies on TI's... all lower level players, with NO way they could make that many. (they do it frequently) And all their havens are blocked by the Independence brotherhood too.

SOMETHING is wrong or they are really cheating (writing scripts/code) in the game.

What can be done!?!?

What a most interesting development. Plarium has sent their puppet shiv to threaten me to remove my earlier post.

Do to me what you want SHIV, You are Plarium Puppet, you have no class and no honor you are a cheat.

[There was a link to a screenshot here; please, don't post other players' info -- moderator]

Won't let me post the image, guess Plarium doesn't want pictures here anymore

Well Everybody as Shiv(Plarium) has decided to threaten me,  There is enough wrong in this game and documented in the forums, It's time to go after their Sponsors and advertisers. If they won't put a stop to the cheating maybe the Sponsors can show them the error of their ways.

I just found a link where they parterned with 20th Century Fox. Guess it's time to go to work.

Frank Connett said:

What a most interesting development. Plarium has sent their puppet shiv to threaten me to remove my earlier post.

Do to me what you want SHIV, You are Plarium Puppet, you have no class and no honor you are a cheat.

[There was a link to a screenshot here; please, don't post other players' info -- moderator]

Won't let me post the image, guess Plarium doesn't want pictures here anymore

See, this is why I don't trust conspiracy theories and "cheat" accusations. You don't understand a thing as simple as how images on the web pages work, and suddenly it becomes "guess Plarium doesn't want pictures here anymore". Here, just to show you that it does work, from your own link:

[There was a link to a screenshot here; please, don't post other players' info -- moderator]

How did I manage to "hack" Plarium's misterious anti-image-shiv-protecting censorship?! Behold the wisdom: instead of using the page URL as image (which I'm sure you did), I right-clicked the image itself and clicked "Copy image location" and then pasted that as the URL.

In other words, I used image URL where Plarium's Evil Forum (tm) asked me to put a URL under "Insert image" title.

I guess I'm a hacker now...

@shiv: My feeling so far is that you don't mind public exposure, so I didn't remove the above link and this image of your private message. However, by forum's rules, you have every right to have these removed (because your coords are there). Post here or to me in a private message if you want these removed and I will.

Removing it won't change the fact that images are trivial to post with just basic knowledge what web pages and an images are, without some nefarious Plarium's plan to bring upon us the apocalypse by censoring images.

Can we now get (back?) to a more civilised conversation without really ridiculous accusations whose only basis is "I have no idea ho this works" and "I don't know how they do it, so they must be cheating"? Absence of knowledge is not a proof of wrongdoing, especially when the subject is clearly not your area of expertise.

For Shiv: Do your worst buddy. Any and all money I decide will be spent on nukes and you and your hood will be the recipients of all of them as I will not be threatened by a Puppet. 

For Crowbar: To think that everybody in the game doesn't know about Shiv or his Coordinates is pretty silly. If he decides to have the post pulled, it will only be because he doesn't want people to see he runs around threatening people.

Frank Connett said:

For Shiv: Do your worst buddy. Any and all money I decide will be spent on nukes and you and your hood will be the recipients of all of them as I will not be threatened by a Puppet. 

For Crowbar: To think that everybody in the game doesn't know about Shiv or his Coordinates is pretty silly. If he decides to have the post pulled, it will only be because he doesn't want people to see he runs around threatening people.

Free clown 

Frank Connett said:

For Crowbar: To think that everybody in the game doesn't know about Shiv or his Coordinates is pretty silly. If he decides to have the post pulled, it will only be because he doesn't want people to see he runs around threatening people.

Doesn't matter what his motivation is. It is against forum's rules to publish other player's info without their consent and it should have been done by default. It was my (wrong) judgement to leave it in the first place. I've reconsidered it and it is removed now. The point remains: you didn't know how to do something really basic and you automatically accused Plarium of a nonsensical attempt of censorship.

Try to take this as an honest, friendly advice: if there really is cheating, you are doing the cheaters a great service. Wild and obviously ridiculous accusations without as much as an attempt of evidence only lead to all of them being dismissed lightly. Same as someone's "shiv sees IPs" without a shred of evidence. How do you guys expect to be taken seriously even if you do find an instance of real cheating? Who do you expect to consider those accusations after all that nonsense?

Crowbar said:

How do you guys expect to be taken seriously even if you do find an instance of real cheating? Who do you expect to consider those accusations after all that nonsense?

Liken to the little boy who cried wolf fable.

Crowbar you and the other mouthpieces have been trying to convince the entire community that there is no cheating or hacking going on. Well there is way too much out there documented for you to have any chance of winning that argument.

The real truth of the matter is that if Plarium gave us even a tiny bit of the truth it could open them up to some pretty major international lawsuits and that is the only reason they don't tell the truth and hide behind you guys.

There is enough documentation on the forum it's going to make an impressive news story and not thing one Plarium can do about it as it's all in their forum and that's a public domain and even if they change that, way to easy to create an account and get it unless they wipe the forums.

The more the public knows of this corruption the fewer and fewer people will play this or any of Plarium Games.