Icy said:

Hmm wonder then who's the worse scourge of the map., Rual or Spen

i am really chocked about this answer.

I am a PS, CB was/are my favorites enemy.

Spen he's just a snack, not a cheater. This is his strategy. and it's the game.

RuAL are cheaters. not the game.

The principal problem is that. 

trust is a fragile thing, and whom to trust...

Rual certainly has shown they can't be trusted, they couldn't even handle their own server to come here and destroy ours then give and introduction and bragging about why they did it... 

Now this puts things in a different perspective and probably opens up some eyes ... including mine!!!!

I would still like to repost my post on the other thread, just before the thread was closed without explanation :

There is a snowballs chance in hell that Plarium will EVER admit their server can be hacked, that there is a backdoor somewhere or any other loopholes in their programming.

If they would admit to that, they are a*s up in the wind and they can shut everything down.

Again, i am not taking sides here and whatever RuaL found is something a lot of other people havent found.

But in the end the blame is on Plarium if there is a backdoor/loophole/hack, and not on the players.

We all know by now that the mods do NOT have a direct line to the devs, and we also all know by now that the forum is NOT the place to complain.

Furthermore we also all know that it takes a lifetime for Plarium to deal with our support tickets .... so what's wisdom here ...

Keep moaning, complaining, whining and crying that something isn't right?

Or maybe play a bit smarter, take a step back and preserve your units untl this is sorted.

We all know by now that the top BH, Pilgrim Slayers, got wiped out by Rual.

And i honestly do NOT understand why you kept all your defenses in there, knowing you havent got a chance to defend against that.

As an example of what happened today .... you Scrappy (PS), attacked me in my haven .... and what did you hit and what did you get?

You killed 1 (=ONE) bonnie and got 50k rum.

I can send you the rum anytime if you want/need it, but in the end i played it smart and didnt leave my defense out.

Sometimes one step back may get you 2 steps forward in the game ....

Until Plarium figures out if and where there has been a breach, everyone has to say for themselves how much they are willing to give up if they try to fight back.

Have a nice weekend all, and happy hunting 

I would offer caution in terms of blaming spenpal. We have a cheat saying spenpal aided him. I was actually with spenpal two years ago. I reported about these bots to spenpal two years ago and he told me to complain immediately.(google "taylor aldridge" and "cheating bots plarium") there is still a link but you cant see what I wrote anymore.

We as a server need to focus our energy on helpful solutions.

1) The first problem, plarium is incompentent up to colluding.

edit * Community Rules & Guidelines 3.11

2)Rual is recieving extortion money from Blige rats and !!Pirates!! These two bhs need to become public enemy number one.

Anwser, world war is declared on them.

3) We need a collective list on all old and new bots. We all have players raid. If we see them. We post them. We raid them daily.

Otherwise we are all dead in the end.

@moonpirate :

I don't get it , people says they are raiding with 500 mil offense and you want to raid there bots -_- and i am the coward ??

You just don't understand what's the concept of cheating, there is just no logic and it doesn't make sense to go after someone you believe he is cheating , in other situations you will just walk away from a cheater , you don't try to harass him.

@moonpirate :

I don't get it , people says they are raiding with 500 mil offense and you want to raid there bots -_- and i am the coward ??

You just don't understand what's the concept of cheating, there is just no logic and it doesn't make sense to go after someone you believe he is cheating , in other situations you will just walk away from a cheater , you don't try to harass him.

unless you know how he is cheating and you can prevent that ..which you don't

bernd said:

so what? every top bh has let allys hit their enemies for them so far ...

spen is spen ...

does it really matter which bh will get hit next by cheaters?

Obvious you missed the whole conversation he shared, he was "involved" 

with the whole thing he new that they were coming, he basically fed infomation to these guys like they were his animals telling them whom to hit....

OPEN your eyes....

told people for nearly 2 years and he still is leader in cb after the fiasco with death inc and his alt leads nsf2.time both were kicked

Daria said:

Blaspehmy why would Spenpal go to PS and say hey two months ago I talked to this new BH Rual about hitting one of your allies for CB, just so you know. Are you really that dim? What Spenpal did was before any of us knew what Rual was about. It has nothing to do with the present situation, it is smoke and mirrors to take the heat off Shiv and Rual.  Every BH makes deals, every BH plots and schemes to be #1, that's the name of the game, or at least it was until this group came in with their miraculous ability to create offense out of thin air. None of the things discussed with Shiv ever happened, EIC didn't go down in flames, so when you all get done Spen bashing can we get back to the REAL problem and that is  RuAL and the future of the game and our server?

Spen may have known what was coming, or maybe he didnt  ....

The REAL problem is Plarium and, what seems to be, their creaky security and protection.

Until they get their stuff sorted, everyone can do what they want.

Just dont defend when you get attacked .... preserve your units and wait for better days ....

As long as we dont know how and what exactly is going on ... train units and play the waiting game.

Or defend, knowing you are going to get wiped.

Everyone seems to be complaining, but only few take action and avoid the confrontation in the game ... 

If you send out 10 raids in a row ... and you hit NOTHING ... what are your thoughts/feelings then?

You mihgt not be the only one in that department ... we probably all feel that way .....

Save the game, start playing smarter ... Sitting in the (previous) top BH doesnt guarantee anyone a free pass and remember ... we are still playing a pirates game, so anything is allowed! (not that i agree, but even cheating is allowed, as long as you dont get caught!)

I am 100% sure that at least 75% of all players that have posted on the forum are running at least 2 or more accounts .... 

Pot ... Kettle ... anyone? (and yes, i know that noone will admit to this, but we all know there are spies in (almost) every BH that are alts)

Have fun, play smart .... carpe diem

I want to be all pirate too, what's the secret they are using to hit the prizes?

Firewife said:

Now, Shiv.

You and I both know that you are posting this completely out of context.  You would probably do very well here in American politics.  I was involved in these talks with you from my old brotherhood, Loyalty Legends.  This was a case of an ally working to help out another ally.  All part of the game.   What you have decided to do here against PS was entirely your deal.  I am certain that Spenpal didn't know anything about it because if he did you would have posted THAT conversation.  Not one from August.  So those of us that can think and not just react will all see the truth of that.

Blasphemy, what kind of evidence do you have that Spenpal is a BOT sponsor and exactly what the hell is that anyway?  I know what BOT farms are but tell me, how the hell does one sponsor them?  

Firewife

I can put together all conversation if u want. But bet then Spen will be even more ashamed

I can put together all conversation if u want. But bet then Spen will be even more ashamed

how old are you? 

daysleeper said:

Now this puts things in a different perspective and probably opens up some eyes ... including mine!!!!

I would still like to repost my post on the other thread, just before the thread was closed without explanation :

There is a snowballs chance in hell that Plarium will EVER admit their server can be hacked, that there is a backdoor somewhere or any other loopholes in their programming.

If they would admit to that, they are a*s up in the wind and they can shut everything down.

Again, i am not taking sides here and whatever RuaL found is something a lot of other people havent found.

But in the end the blame is on Plarium if there is a backdoor/loophole/hack, and not on the players.

We all know by now that the mods do NOT have a direct line to the devs, and we also all know by now that the forum is NOT the place to complain.

Furthermore we also all know that it takes a lifetime for Plarium to deal with our support tickets .... so what's wisdom here ...

Keep moaning, complaining, whining and crying that something isn't right?

Or maybe play a bit smarter, take a step back and preserve your units untl this is sorted.

We all know by now that the top BH, Pilgrim Slayers, got wiped out by Rual.

And i honestly do NOT understand why you kept all your defenses in there, knowing you havent got a chance to defend against that.

As an example of what happened today .... you Scrappy (PS), attacked me in my haven .... and what did you hit and what did you get?

You killed 1 (=ONE) bonnie and got 50k rum.

I can send you the rum anytime if you want/need it, but in the end i played it smart and didnt leave my defense out.

Sometimes one step back may get you 2 steps forward in the game ....

Until Plarium figures out if and where there has been a breach, everyone has to say for themselves how much they are willing to give up if they try to fight back.

Have a nice weekend all, and happy hunting