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Bots getting stuff f2p can’t get

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23 июнь 2024, 05:5023.06.24
04.10.23
210

Maybe if ur f2p the bots don't have p2w stuff but if you buy it makes the bots gave p2w stuff?

29 июнь 2024, 19:4429.06.24
19.07.22
4
Deepthroat

Well perhaps you should consider factoring in whether a mech or weapon is paywalled or not at a given level for reasons listed above. It's not realistic or fair for a bunch of bots to be running around with a bunch of stuff the vast majority of players cannot normally get. At the very least as an f2p player with an entirely f2p inventor, I should not be encountering them myself so frequently.

Consider there is more than game balance to consider. Like I mentioned a player's perception of reality. Like how am I supposed to trust you're not using these bots to try and influence a player's perception of reality and push p2p stuff on players  when there's a million bots running around with it and killing with it? As well, you should be considering realism. Like f2p makes up the vast majority of players. If bots were instead real players there wouldn't be so many with a bunch of paywalled items or items with paywalled levels. It just isn't realistic. Speaking of perception of reality and the realism of a million bots running around in hard to get gear. Even if the bots didn't seem to have unrealistic combat capabilities you still have an issue where players who don't know they're bots could see all the bots with this stuff and think more people pay in MA than actually do, and could make them less hesitant to pay themselves. How am I supposed to trust this is not your intention?

Seems like your the one not understanding

Firstly if not for the p2w players we wouldn't have a game to play, sure they get annoying but they are vital to keeping a game running

Second when CrystalDrew said "it's a good way to show the players the abilities of the freshly released Weapons so they can decide whether they would like to give them a try or not" they mean that because they are legendary items a player might spend the 7k or so acoins on that weapon not knowing how it plays and they may not like it and have just thrown months of progress down the drain and I have to agree with crystal on that one.

Finally the bots have these items to balance the game as they do not think not react the way a player would In a certain situation, for example when your capping a beacon and the bot walks around the corner only to be immediately destroyed by you, the star ranks are reduced for this reason so that you actually stand a chance, yes it's annoying that they can potentially one shot you but that's exactly what makes the game fun, imagine how boring it would be if you didn't have to be careful about approaching a bot because it's something simple that you can take out with ease, you'd win every battle and it wouldn't be a challenge at all, if you can't beat it then that just sounds like a skill issue honestly.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
2 июль 2024, 14:1802.07.24
10.02.23
2079
sharda2006

Seems like your the one not understanding

Firstly if not for the p2w players we wouldn't have a game to play, sure they get annoying but they are vital to keeping a game running

Second when CrystalDrew said "it's a good way to show the players the abilities of the freshly released Weapons so they can decide whether they would like to give them a try or not" they mean that because they are legendary items a player might spend the 7k or so acoins on that weapon not knowing how it plays and they may not like it and have just thrown months of progress down the drain and I have to agree with crystal on that one.

Finally the bots have these items to balance the game as they do not think not react the way a player would In a certain situation, for example when your capping a beacon and the bot walks around the corner only to be immediately destroyed by you, the star ranks are reduced for this reason so that you actually stand a chance, yes it's annoying that they can potentially one shot you but that's exactly what makes the game fun, imagine how boring it would be if you didn't have to be careful about approaching a bot because it's something simple that you can take out with ease, you'd win every battle and it wouldn't be a challenge at all, if you can't beat it then that just sounds like a skill issue honestly.

Thanks for your comment and yes, you understood all my points absolutely correctly 👌

9 июль 2024, 02:5109.07.24
09.07.24
1

It would appear that you don't play the game.

I'm facing bots with rank 5-6 Mechs and weapons, my stuff is rank 3 except for an Ember 6 that's rank 4.  This is NOT fun, it's NOT a challenge, it's me getting killed instantly by Revokers, Vipers, Pod guns, Chainguns, Mini guns, Repeaters, etc.

I'm getting SO effing frustrated that I'm about to request a full refund for what I've wasted to date, uninstall the game and blasting the game on social media.  

The bots are OCCASIONALLY stupid, this is true, but the majority of the time they are taking snap shots at me that don't miss and 1 shot me while I'm not even targeting them, despite there being a bigger threat, another bot from my team with rank 5/6 gear already being engaged with them.  

I get it, the bots SHOULD be a challenge but currently they aren't, they are first string major league athletes playing against 6 yr old kids(that's us players) and it's not a challenge, it's frustrating as all hells and NOT fun.  Giving them Uber Mechs and Uber Weapons doesn't incline me to buy, it inclines me to say 'eff this crap' and stop playing.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
9 июль 2024, 14:4609.07.24
10.02.23
2079
Chris Carlile

It would appear that you don't play the game.

I'm facing bots with rank 5-6 Mechs and weapons, my stuff is rank 3 except for an Ember 6 that's rank 4.  This is NOT fun, it's NOT a challenge, it's me getting killed instantly by Revokers, Vipers, Pod guns, Chainguns, Mini guns, Repeaters, etc.

I'm getting SO effing frustrated that I'm about to request a full refund for what I've wasted to date, uninstall the game and blasting the game on social media.  

The bots are OCCASIONALLY stupid, this is true, but the majority of the time they are taking snap shots at me that don't miss and 1 shot me while I'm not even targeting them, despite there being a bigger threat, another bot from my team with rank 5/6 gear already being engaged with them.  

I get it, the bots SHOULD be a challenge but currently they aren't, they are first string major league athletes playing against 6 yr old kids(that's us players) and it's not a challenge, it's frustrating as all hells and NOT fun.  Giving them Uber Mechs and Uber Weapons doesn't incline me to buy, it inclines me to say 'eff this crap' and stop playing.

Hello! We are actively working on the adjustments for the Matchmaking system, so such affairs must be decreased. At this moment, I'd recommend you tweak your Hangar a bit, as it may help the system to perform better for you!

10 июль 2024, 16:1210.07.24
09.07.23
229
sharda2006

Seems like your the one not understanding

Firstly if not for the p2w players we wouldn't have a game to play, sure they get annoying but they are vital to keeping a game running

Second when CrystalDrew said "it's a good way to show the players the abilities of the freshly released Weapons so they can decide whether they would like to give them a try or not" they mean that because they are legendary items a player might spend the 7k or so acoins on that weapon not knowing how it plays and they may not like it and have just thrown months of progress down the drain and I have to agree with crystal on that one.

Finally the bots have these items to balance the game as they do not think not react the way a player would In a certain situation, for example when your capping a beacon and the bot walks around the corner only to be immediately destroyed by you, the star ranks are reduced for this reason so that you actually stand a chance, yes it's annoying that they can potentially one shot you but that's exactly what makes the game fun, imagine how boring it would be if you didn't have to be careful about approaching a bot because it's something simple that you can take out with ease, you'd win every battle and it wouldn't be a challenge at all, if you can't beat it then that just sounds like a skill issue honestly.

No actually it seems like you're mistaken because first of all I have been complaining about masses of bots having paywalled items, not the difficulty of facing p2p opponents.

Second of all the idea that a person could go and unlock a weapon they end up not liking is the argument as to why the masses of bots using is bad. They could make a weapon look better than it is.

3rd of all, if a player can get a weapon for a-coins likely it isn't paywalled and isn't a problem that a bunch of bots have it.

Thirdly I already explained this but if they don't wanna make it too easy they can instead use f2p bots of the same grade and rank or equivalent in place of the paywalled stuff for a large part.

The problem with masses of bots running around like I said before is not just annoying. In addition it's suspicious and most importantly it's unrealistic, making it possible that players who do not know better get a twisted sense of reality thanks to the bots which could influence a players decision to purchase a weapon, which is why it's suspicious.

Hope this all helps.

16 июль 2024, 14:1616.07.24
18.08.23
1

Just finished reading the back and forth on this!...C.D., your argument is weak! And that an actual player of this game would back up your argument is ridiculous! Of course bots are needed. The rest of sharda2006 response is ridiculous. It would be best for MechArena C.D. if you didn't comment on the pay to win situation. It makes me angry to hear your lame excuses. And no, I am not the most skilled player in the game but I do love it when the algorithm lets me win once in a while. And let's be clear to new players, you can pay all you want and that will not make you win, UNLESS, you fork over the big bucks for mechs and weapons. You pay over 100$ for an imaginary, oops i mean legendary mech, you will be able to kill all the weak mechs you encounter and that's everyone in the game that didn't pay big bucks, we are being punished for not spending enough money.😁

16 июль 2024, 17:0816.07.24
17.09.21
277
jobel

Just finished reading the back and forth on this!...C.D., your argument is weak! And that an actual player of this game would back up your argument is ridiculous! Of course bots are needed. The rest of sharda2006 response is ridiculous. It would be best for MechArena C.D. if you didn't comment on the pay to win situation. It makes me angry to hear your lame excuses. And no, I am not the most skilled player in the game but I do love it when the algorithm lets me win once in a while. And let's be clear to new players, you can pay all you want and that will not make you win, UNLESS, you fork over the big bucks for mechs and weapons. You pay over 100$ for an imaginary, oops i mean legendary mech, you will be able to kill all the weak mechs you encounter and that's everyone in the game that didn't pay big bucks, we are being punished for not spending enough money.😁

Just to say, in CD's defence, they are only allowed to say what they have been told to say.

If they didn't comment, as you suggested, it would only result, as I've seen firsthand, in people harassing CD as to why they've not responded to something they've said.


Also I'm literally almost 8.5k SP and still f2p, so ¯\_(⁠ツ⁠)_/¯

17 июль 2024, 07:1417.07.24
13.06.24
3
CrystalDrew

Hi there! Bots in the game can be strong and have good equipment, but they don't think as deeply as real players. We're working on making the AI more advanced to act more like real people. 

Sure i saw some stupid boot even not shooting and not dropping its shield (Aegis) just lost that match. Certainly, i was looser too.

18 июль 2024, 21:5818.07.24
13.06.24
8
CrystalDrew

Hi there! Bots in the game can be strong and have good equipment, but they don't think as deeply as real players. We're working on making the AI more advanced to act more like real people. 

Your actions seem despicable to me, how low a human being has to fall to lie for money, you are sad, and I hope one day you have a little pride and money does not buy your being. The bots are now with the mods, close to indestructible, VERY TOUGH. The bots AI is TERRIBLE, it always was and they have not the slightest intention of improving it, not even minimal improvements such as the bots NOT PUSHING, the games are mostly against bots, so if they continue to be this equipped It is 3 or 4 times more difficult than yesterday to play. The weapons that cost us so much to improve are now useless, because so many layers of shields make them useless. Between the bots and the people who pay (which doesn't seem bad to me), those of us who can't pay will have to leave. So at least don't insult us anymore and take away the F2P title. 

18 июль 2024, 22:2118.07.24
16.02.23
56
CrystalDrew

Hi there! Bots in the game can be strong and have good equipment, but they don't think as deeply as real players. We're working on making the AI more advanced to act more like real people. 

CD, it's good that you're working on this issue, but bots now have mods. I wasn't too concerned with what bots had and didn't have before the mods popped up, but I can't stand playing this game anymore. I can't crack bots mods!!! My weapons have the capability of sustained damage, built up on the bots until their mods break, but the bots do have OP items which kill me before I can do anything remarkable to them.

And yes, I've tried corner shooting. Corner shooting on bots becomes increasingly difficult as players progress, since bots become more aware of their surroundings as the player progresses. Please, just work harder on the mods. If you won't let F2Ps easily get mods, we'll just stop playing because the game is too difficult to enjoy. If bots and players have more even playing grounds, the issue becomes less relevant.

18 июль 2024, 22:3318.07.24
04.10.23
210

Yea I don't get why plarium thinks they'll keep their player base by only favoring p2w. Even p2w might leave the game despite the constant spending because you'd keep spending on the game which increasingly gets more spend heavy and hard to keep up with. So far with the mods the mod parts are either rlly rlly hard to obtain or impossible to get at all. Another thing is that the tutorial pressures you to get the Hardened hull, but doesn't allow you to buy whichever one you want. This is actually frustrating because I wanted to get a different one, yet the tutorial made me waste my parts before I ever regained control. PLARIUM, AGAIN I AM UPSET AND OUTRAGED BY THIS. YOU NEED TO STOP FORCING F2P TO USE RESOURCES. IT MAKES EVERYTHING IMPOSSIBLE TO GET.

18 июль 2024, 23:0018.07.24
18.07.24
22

Adding feedback, the new Mods are just another money grab. The addition instantly make everything that has been built up less effective Unless your fork over cash. I'm probably not alone in saying this is likely my exit. 

19 июль 2024, 03:0619.07.24
19.07.24
15

.. you were fighting "similar level" bots and oops ... after 1 lame message and a lame "tutorial" they just became gods that now you can barely stand ... and interestingly you faced the ugly situation while trying to figure out what the h*ll is this new Mods thing and how to build it up for good .. you touch the new thing with excitement but it kills you instantly.

I will SPEND NO MORE because this is NO MORE FUN.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
31 июль 2024, 10:2831.07.24
10.02.23
2079

Hello guys! The primary purpose of this feature is to shift the game's long-term meta, providing a player with more gameplay freedom. However, due to our oversight, you encountered bots that were too powerful to tackle. That was not an intended experience.

After the recent update, new players will be facing enemy bots of the appropriate level. The level of bots for experienced players will be determined through Matchmaking after running several battles.

Hope these changes will improve the overall state of affairs! Be sure that all your feedback is heard!