Arena missions are PAYWALL, pure and simple

Yes you can run around it (long way run around it), but it's as simple as it is a paywall to entice you to make a shortcut of the grinding.

Valdys said:

grievve said:

valdys how are you a moderator? you just ignore people's complaints.

the silver 1 mission IS too hard these days. i invite you to look at my account and finish it

You should focus on your team, improve your gear and try again. :)

So you think it's balanced when almost every pvp mission takes weeks/months to finish but every other mission type takes at most a couple energy refills or a wait of a couple days for a dungeon to unlock?

This completely obliterates the progression flow for early/mid game players.

I've been on the mission to upgrade a GH bonus to level 4 for going on a month now.

And I've still got a week or two left before I finish it.

And once i've finished it I will complete the next 11 missions within 5 days or so, and it will only take that long because two of them are for keep dungeons that I might have to wait a couple days to unlock.

And after those?

The next mission is to upgrade a SECOND GH BONUS TO LEVEL 4.

That's going to be another 3-5 weeks for a single mission.

AGAIN.

It's awful.

You would do well to admit that it could use some significant improvement/rebalancing instead of burying your head in the sand and insisting that everyone else is wrong.

Alsido said:

Guys just need to stop crying about these missions. If you go to Google and check all missions will be totally disappointed then you reach missions that you have to max out at least 1 champ from affinity or farm 10 superior potions per affinity and after a kill dungeon boss 20 on auto, finishing missions to deal 100mil to nightmare clan boss. And you guys crying about the silver arena.... Then you hit spider 20 on auto and clan boss 20 mil per key to nightmare then cry that you can pass silver arena coz it's too hard but it's time to check some YouTube how work out with rare champs you got.

You're describing end game missions.

We're talking about missions that new players hit within 20-30 days of starting to play.

lolcatz said:

Alsido said:

Guys just need to stop crying about these missions. If you go to Google and check all missions will be totally disappointed then you reach missions that you have to max out at least 1 champ from affinity or farm 10 superior potions per affinity and after a kill dungeon boss 20 on auto, finishing missions to deal 100mil to nightmare clan boss. And you guys crying about the silver arena.... Then you hit spider 20 on auto and clan boss 20 mil per key to nightmare then cry that you can pass silver arena coz it's too hard but it's time to check some YouTube how work out with rare champs you got.

You're describing end game missions.

We're talking about missions that new players hit within 20-30 days of starting to play.

Bonkers show me one game that you just 20-30 days in to the game and be in the top tier in the arena. Most of the games if you missed the launch of the game have no chance to get close top tiers of the  arena. In some cases even if you spend lots of money won't help. 

What comes to the arena in raid shadow legends all you need to do check some guides on how to build nuke team and you easily can get to gold4 but yeah let's cry all together might get some fix. Its lots of people finished these quests without problems people 30 days in the game strait away expecting to hit end game content.

Arena is competition best team wins if you can progress to silver your team is not worth of silver in the first place. Same applies to platinum.... Don't expect to win all the game with 50lvl kael...

Alsido said:

lolcatz said:

Alsido said:

Guys just need to stop crying about these missions. If you go to Google and check all missions will be totally disappointed then you reach missions that you have to max out at least 1 champ from affinity or farm 10 superior potions per affinity and after a kill dungeon boss 20 on auto, finishing missions to deal 100mil to nightmare clan boss. And you guys crying about the silver arena.... Then you hit spider 20 on auto and clan boss 20 mil per key to nightmare then cry that you can pass silver arena coz it's too hard but it's time to check some YouTube how work out with rare champs you got.

You're describing end game missions.

We're talking about missions that new players hit within 20-30 days of starting to play.

Bonkers show me one game that you just 20-30 days in to the game and be in the top tier in the arena. Most of the games if you missed the launch of the game have no chance to get close top tiers of the  arena. In some cases even if you spend lots of money won't help. 

What comes to the arena in raid shadow legends all you need to do check some guides on how to build nuke team and you easily can get to gold4 but yeah let's cry all together might get some fix. Its lots of people finished these quests without problems people 30 days in the game strait away expecting to hit end game content.

Arena is competition best team wins if you can progress to silver your team is not worth of silver in the first place. Same applies to platinum.... Don't expect to win all the game with 50lvl kael...

We try to help give some guidance on how to build teams and what to look in case of arena teams but looks like no one is willing to try what we saying. 

You're completely missing the point.

No one here is saying they want to be top tier arena after 20-30 days.

We're saying that new players probably shouldn't be encountering arena progress missions that take 4-6 weeks when they haven't even been playing the game for 4-6 weeks.  They especially shouldn't be encountering missions of this difficulty when every other mission in the same progress tier takes literally 30-60 minutes.

You keep saying people are crying, but honestly you're the only one here crying.

We're offering our opinions and explaining why we hold those opinions.

They should just make the PvE missions more difficult. Then things would be more balanced. If you are F2P (my alt) or low spend like me then ALL the missions will take 4-6 months and that is IF you spend lots of TIME. This is not a casual game you need either $$$ or a heavy time commitment.  The arena needs some tweaking because 50% of the Player base is over level 60 with 6+ months of farming better gear and improving GH.  Noobs will never completely catch up as someone stated above. Increasing the size of the Silver1 to Gold 3 divisions, probably significantly, is the best viable solution (and easily implementable -- well for anyone but Plarium :) 

You know what would be a more simple solution to all this? Make ALL arena mission on the very end of the mission line up.

To LOLCATZ

I'm trying to give you genuine help it's for choosing to take it or leave it. I already finished all arbiter missions ages ago and my account is 170 days old free to play. I'm confident enough that will be easily to hold gold 4 in new arena too disparity of lack of legendary champions. 

It's lots of information in internet what champs to upgrade etc... 

Its

Alsido said:

To LOLCATZ

I'm trying to give you genuine help it's for choosing to take it or leave it. I already finished all arbiter missions ages ago and my account is 170 days old free to play. I'm confident enough that will be easily to hold gold 4 in new arena too disparity of lack of legendary champions. 

It's lots of information in internet what champs to upgrade etc... 

Its

It's not a matter of my team not being able to compete in the bracket it belongs in.

I have a solid Silver team, though gear is somewhat lacking because RNG.

The problem is the disparity between PvE and PvP missions in the early to mid game stages of progression.

When you're stuck on a PvP mission for 4+ weeks and upon completing it you immediately complete the next 10-15 PvE missions up until the next PvP one (which will take you another 4+ weeks), there seems to be a problem.

EDIT:

Here's a possible solution.

Instead of requiring Silver I for new players, require Bronze III or IV.

Instead of requiring rank 4 GH bonus, require rank 3.

Move the rank 4 GH bonus quest later into the progression.

The problem isn't really arena or missions. The real problem are inactive players from gold+ tier. If a high end arena team player stops logging in and competing, then his team will loose rankings gradually and downgrade ranks. When that teams downgrades, it makes that lower tier harder for newer players. But eventually, the players of that rank will beat that team enough times that it will down rank once more. Making that new lower tier harder again.

Right now, I'm seeing so many full top gear lvl 60 fully ascended champions in bronze 3 and 4. It's kinda ridiculous. Many long time players have admitted that those Arena missions where easier to complete back in the days because those lower rankings weren't packed with high end teams.

If the only teams you could face where active teams, then you wouldn't see that huge power gap between arena teams of the same rank.

To fix the problem, here is my suggestion.

- Remove from the random queues the defending teams of players who haven't fought in the arena for the last 2 weeks.

- Add a ranking decay after 2 weeks of inactivity, so that players can't "camp" their ranking by being inactive.

jealehoux said:

The problem isn't really arena or missions. The real problem are inactive players from gold+ tier. 

Most of them (specially in Bronze 3 and 4) are NOT inactive though

https://imgur.com/gallery/zfYysDE

(If Arena has no fix) Where you are right now, you will stay there (and worse) forever unless you get new S rank champs (for example Abiter, Valkyries, Serris, Siphi, Lilitu, Big Un, Ageless, etc.)

Valdys said:

Bauer said:

Arena missions always slowing me down.. I'm at the one you have to reach Silver 1 at the arena.

The problem is that ranking up in the arena is way harder than the next missions: next mission is campaign mission, clear stage 7 of the catacombs of narbuk on hard (I've already cleared it on brutal, 3 stars and can't get Silver 1 at the arena)...

Doesn't really make sense how hard one mission is compared to the other.

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback, but imo missions are already balanced. 

Uhhhh....what?

So, in your opinion - acquiring 800 silver medals in an arena completely stacked with 120k+ power teams full of top-tier, level 60 legendaries & epics is on par with completing a single campaign mission on brutal difficulty? Or ascending a single champion to 5-star?

Uhhhh....what?

So, in your opinion - acquiring 800 silver medals in an arena completely stacked with 120k+ power teams full of top-tier, level 60 legendaries & epics is on par with completing a single campaign mission on brutal difficulty? Or ascending a single champion to 5-star?

The difficulty levels on progress missions are all over the place and completely imbalanced, there is no way to legitimately argue against this fact.

L9753 said:

Shaade said:

Uhhhh....what?

So, in your opinion - acquiring 800 silver medals in an arena completely stacked with 120k+ power teams full of top-tier, level 60 legendaries & epics is on par with completing a single campaign mission on brutal difficulty? Or ascending a single champion to 5-star?

The difficulty levels on progress missions are all over the place and completely imbalanced, there is no way to legitimately argue against this fact.

Pay attention to dates when replying. ;) She wrote that in February - back then, while I think the arena missions were already significantly harder than the non-arena missions, the situation was very, very different from what it is today. 

How exactly was the situation "very, very different"?

I had fun playing the game, but the arena mission makes it so I can't play anymore.  I suggest wiping the old players out that don't play arena anymore and resetting bronze and silver tiers weekly.. but keep the gold tiers as they are.  It seems by historical accounts that the arena started to flood with old accounts until now it's impacted the bronze tier.  Thanks for making the game and listening.  It was a fun couple of days. :)

Arena missions are far, far more difficult than the other missions. Arena has become insanely difficult. I've been stuck at Silver III mission for months now. Won't get it for months (and that is provided arena does not continue to become more difficult).

Не защитывает испытание арены 2.3

L9753 said:

Shaade said:

Uhhhh....what?

So, in your opinion - acquiring 800 silver medals in an arena completely stacked with 120k+ power teams full of top-tier, level 60 legendaries & epics is on par with completing a single campaign mission on brutal difficulty? Or ascending a single champion to 5-star?

The difficulty levels on progress missions are all over the place and completely imbalanced, there is no way to legitimately argue against this fact.

Pay attention to dates when replying. ;) She wrote that in February - back then, while I think the arena missions were already significantly harder than the non-arena missions, the situation was very, very different from what it is today. 

Actually it hasn't really changed much. They applied a fix or two and Bronze III is now kinda doable, but Bronze IV is still f-ing impossible for anyone who isn't spending ludicrous amounts of money. I'll spend a couple bucks here or there, but I can't afford to spend a lot and this game is pretty much built for the big spenders and nobody else. Free to play or anything approaching free to play, you're just flat screwed. 

For my Arena Offense I have: Combined Power 67K.
Galek Level 60
Sandlashed Survivor Level 60
Warmaiden Level 60
High Katun Level 50

I have pretty decent gear but since I can't progress in Dungeons far enough to farm for 6 star gear yet, I don't have much 6 star gear. Since I can't progress in Spider, I don't have a single champion with a full set of accessories. I'm getting desperate and thinking I might have to 6 star Rocktooth (sadly my best Ogryn) because Ogryn is my only faction where it would even be remotely possible to equip full accessories -- from those that were given randomly for daily progression, tournaments and events. I don't have a mass Unkillable, a mass Counter Attack or a Mass Ignore Damage champion. 

Anyways, arena. Sure I should 6 star High Katun, but what's the point? I still won't clear Bronze IV. Here's what I'm up against right now in order to clear Bronze IV. If they've got a Speed Aura lead, they'll kill me 99% of the time. Everyone else is up over 100K power which means I can't even one of their champions in the first round, and they kick my butt in short order. For the love of God can Plarium just give up and pull this out of the Progress Missions????????? I'd be all the way to Arbiter right now otherwise. 

Yes , but this mission ruin the fun of this game, for new players of course.  If we started earlier this game this mission sould be 

very easy, but now is imposibile.  I spent 1200 gems for that mission and got only 21 from those 50 stupid silver medals. I've unloked nightmare dificulty and that mission is in line of hard dificulty . I regret that i was spending money and time in this game. Admin should fix this missions who stop new players  to progres like this arena mission. I know in late game missions will be harder but it's not normal to stuck in hard mission line even when u unlocked nightmare. Verry sad thing.....     Best regards