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Jun 23, 2026, 18:2506/23/26
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Can this comp beat UNM?

have to decide who to level up next.

tried several comps with doompriest, aniri, but still haven’t found something which makes roschard’s BD useful. in UNM I still wipe at round 22/25 with no more than 14/15m dmg.

then I found a couple of painkiller in my vault and dropped sepulcher last week: so you think it is worthwhile to level up PK and SS?


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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jun 23, 2026, 19:0306/23/26
06/24/19
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Got a screenshot of all your champs?

Jun 23, 2026, 21:2706/23/26
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ShortOnSkillz

Got a screenshot of all your champs?

Here u go sir

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Jun 23, 2026, 22:3806/23/26
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You *should* have an easy slow hellcat comp there. 2 key full auto unm, 1 key with high-end gear and blessings. Roschcard is interchangable with H elicath for that comp


If you were having trouble getting it to work, I can pretty much guarantee it was a tunign issue, not the comp itself.

Getting a team correctly tuned is challenging, even if you've done it before. It's nearly impossible to get it right on the first try, there's always something you overlook.

Jul 14, 2026, 12:4207/14/26
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MooredRat

You *should* have an easy slow hellcat comp there. 2 key full auto unm, 1 key with high-end gear and blessings. Roschcard is interchangable with H elicath for that comp


If you were having trouble getting it to work, I can pretty much guarantee it was a tunign issue, not the comp itself.

Getting a team correctly tuned is challenging, even if you've done it before. It's nearly impossible to get it right on the first try, there's always something you overlook.

But I don't have helicat 😔

So I just one hero with block damage :(

Jul 14, 2026, 13:5707/14/26
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matteo maria ambrogi

But I don't have helicat 😔

So I just one hero with block damage :(

"Roschcard is interchangable with Helicath for that comp"

Jul 16, 2026, 12:3207/16/26
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MooredRat

"Roschcard is interchangable with Helicath for that comp"

Aaaah now i got your point and understand what you meant with *should*


so you agree this comp is worthwhile leveling it up?

Jul 16, 2026, 13:5707/16/26
Jul 16, 2026, 14:04(edited)
12/16/21
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Speeds are precise, even a single point on anyone too high or too low will ruin the tune

Make ABSOLUTELY sure no one has any gear, masteries or relics that change their speed (edit: during the fight), turn meter, or skill cooldowns

Roschcard can be used in Helicaths place

With Doompriest as your cleanser you don't need a debuff blocker. And you don't need to worry about the turn delay for NM because she passive cleanses every turn.

Ideally 1 of your DPS should have weaken and defense debuff. I used Rhazin when I ran this comp.

Your stun taget will have to tank the single target hit without block damage up. They'll need to be tanky/heal enough/have 1 of your DPS with some form of shield/block damage/unkillable. Helicath's shield can take care of that, but Roschcard doesn't have that so it needs to be supplemented.

Jul 16, 2026, 14:0307/16/26
Jul 16, 2026, 14:04(edited)
01/27/25
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Wow great insights thank you.

according to hellcat slow config then, i could use roschard, doompriest, rhazin, mithrala/martyr?, farhazin the fat?


are we talking about UNM right? Not NM 

Jul 16, 2026, 14:0807/16/26
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matteo maria ambrogi

Wow great insights thank you.

according to hellcat slow config then, i could use roschard, doompriest, rhazin, mithrala/martyr?, farhazin the fat?


are we talking about UNM right? Not NM 

Yes on all counts.


This same tune works on both UNM and NM, but you need a different preset:

On UNM Roschcard will open with a3; but on nm he needs to open with a2 first and then do a3 on his 2nd turn. (In both cases a3 is priority 1, but for NM a2 needs ot be set as opener with that flag symbol)

Jul 16, 2026, 14:1107/16/26
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Oh, If you use Rhazin, lock out his a3: Demon Lord is immune to the tm redux, and his A1 does more damage to a single target than his a3 does.


Slow Hellcat was the first tune I ever did, and I've always been very fond of it. :)

Jul 16, 2026, 14:4407/16/26
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who should it be to complete the comp?


Mithrala or martyr? 

Could Farhazin the fat as "blender" help, or should I go with xeno or Ezio depending on the affinity?

Jul 16, 2026, 15:2007/16/26
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I would start with mithrala for her shields to protect the stun target, but if you need more damage, then try replacing her with martyr.

I've never tried Ezio or Xeno on demonlord, but I know there were several cc vids saying Xeno was a great DPS for cb

Jul 18, 2026, 11:5007/18/26
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With Mithrala and xeno things went even worse.

i think that xeno fills too much the debuff bar limiting the rest of heroes.

 Could reach around 35 rounds, vs the previous 22/25.

  roshcard though falls as first and in a couple of rounds it's game over

Jul 18, 2026, 21:5107/18/26
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matteo maria ambrogi


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With Mithrala and xeno things went even worse.

i think that xeno fills too much the debuff bar limiting the rest of heroes.

 Could reach around 35 rounds, vs the previous 22/25.

  roshcard though falls as first and in a couple of rounds it's game over

Could you post each champs stats, gear, and masteries?

Jul 20, 2026, 15:3107/20/26
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Sure!

please find the two versions. for the second one just copying Ezio and Martyr



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Jul 20, 2026, 15:3607/20/26
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Hope u can help me! 

Jul 20, 2026, 23:1007/20/26
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Masteries too please.

Oh, and do you have any area bonus for speed?



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This guy, for just one example, can completely destroy a speed tune.

Jul 23, 2026, 11:4207/23/26
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to save your time: all champs have attack - def apart from:

  •  xeno, which have "that" guy on, but having no TM meter don't think is a major problem
  • mithrala which has support +rapid response but I don't see any major benefit versus Martyr, so I would keep her, which have not any TM meeter.

I have area spd bonus +4, which is already included in the speed you see: that's why i screenshotted champs stats in the team view so it where already counting the area bonus)


tyvm btw :) 

 

Jul 23, 2026, 15:0307/23/26
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matteo maria ambrogi

to save your time: all champs have attack - def apart from:

  •  xeno, which have "that" guy on, but having no TM meter don't think is a major problem
  • mithrala which has support +rapid response but I don't see any major benefit versus Martyr, so I would keep her, which have not any TM meeter.

I have area spd bonus +4, which is already included in the speed you see: that's why i screenshotted champs stats in the team view so it where already counting the area bonus)


tyvm btw :) 

 

I don't think the area bonus is included in the screenshot you shared.  May want to double check that.   I'd recommend posting the masteries screenshot for MooredRat just in case you overlooked something. 

I'm no help otherwise, I'll let the CB experts fully assist you.

Tagging @kramaswamy.kr   as he is an early game expert  😀



Jul 23, 2026, 20:1707/23/26
01/31/20
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Trips

I don't think the area bonus is included in the screenshot you shared.  May want to double check that.   I'd recommend posting the masteries screenshot for MooredRat just in case you overlooked something. 

I'm no help otherwise, I'll let the CB experts fully assist you.

Tagging @kramaswamy.kr   as he is an early game expert  😀



Trips, the expert in the back-handed compliment.